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Numerology - software sequencer by five12
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JedBeans
http://www.five12.com

Who here has tried this out or uses it?

I'm looking to interface with my Arturia Beatstep with a DSI Tetra by sending NRPN Midi messages. If you know any better options, I would love to hear some suggestions.
doctorvague
I've used it a lot for years. Used it in over half of my videos.
Not sure about your specific question though.
pixelmechanic
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104054&highlight=num erology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98115&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85806&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63868&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39027&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19125&highlight=nume rology
CJ Miller
I have enjoyed Numerology since at least version 1. It is incredibly solid and useful, with great support. But - I have never used it with NRPN messages, so I cannot remark upon these.
pacific202
It seems to me that the five12 unit is very similar to the BeatStep.

I'd suggest that you try to work with just the BeatStep and your Tetra, and if you find that too limiting then add the five12. The BeatStep can trigger your Tetra without you having to buy anything new.
MrBiggs
I tried Numerology with my Micron a few years back. Regular MIDI was no problem but NRPNs were an issue. I don't recall what the problem was. It seems like Numerology didn't use NRPN but I'm not 100% sure.

As pixelmechanic implies, a search brings you a cornucopia of info.
MrBiggs
I tried Numerology with my Micron a few years back. Regular MIDI was no problem but NRPNs were an issue. I don't recall what the problem was. It seems like Numerology didn't use NRPN but I'm not 100% sure.

As pixelmechanic implies, a search brings you a cornucopia of info.
ignatius
pixelmechanic wrote:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104054&highlight=num erology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=98115&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85806&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63868&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=39027&highlight=nume rology

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19125&highlight=nume rology



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c1t1zen
Numerology rocks, one of the few sequencers that you can blow up to 128 steps. I use it for basslines, Arpeggiators, drum sequencing...Sometimes I start with it as the foundation of a song sometimes just a bit here and there. I have barely touched the complete usage of it.
I don't think you'll want to use the beatstep much after you get into this app. It's just super easy to use on the screen.
secretkillerofnames
I have Numerology and the Beatstep. Both good for different things. Numerology is more convenient for software based sequencing - Beatstep is good for instant hardware control. Ultimately Numerology + Launchpad + MIDI interface is the way to go unless you hate staring at a screen all the time.
JES
And once you're playing, you're not staring at a screen. I absolutely love Numerology for its control possibilities. Lots of ways to modulate modulating modulators, and there are even some stacks imitating famous modules (like the Noisering).
Sinamsis
Numerology is great on hardware synths as well. Most recently I hVe it go ing with my yarns sequencing 4 different voices on my modular. It's awesome. And I barely know how to use it hahaha. I mainly use the mono note sequencer. Once I get deeper into I can only imagine what else this beast can do. Will midi not suffice for what you're trying to do?

I might also add that while it is software, I hear it's pretty easy to set up with a launchpad and that adds even more flexibility/performance options.
computer controlled
My big problem with Numerology is...

MAC only meh
MrBiggs
I can send you the link to the Apple Store if you like... razz
Sinamsis
Hahaha. Yeah dude get with the times. w00t w00t w00t
renderful
computer controlled wrote:
My big problem with Numerology is...

MAC only meh


Five12 is a one man team. You try to develop modular audio software of Numerology's quality for Mac & Windows with the level of support that Jim provides.
CJ Miller
renderful wrote:
Five12 is a one man team. You try to develop modular audio software of Numerology's quality for Mac & Windows with the level of support that Jim provides.


Agreed. The software is so solid, and Jim has been very helpful.

Jim was just interviewed on Darwin Gross' excellent podcast a few weeks ago. He gives some background on his motivations and methods behind Numerology.

http://artmusictech.libsyn.com/podcast-038-jim-coker
secretkillerofnames
Thought i'd bump this thread since Numerology 4 is out of Beta. w00t
It's rad for sequencing hardware and software synths and plays extremely well with Launchpad (and Push I hear!)

You all know this though right? lol

Over the last 2 years i've been experimenting with different workflows and I'm currently settled on alternating between using it and Ableton Live 9 with lots of Max 4 Live things. Tracking in Reaper. SlayerBadger!
Loopy C
For my own experimental work, Numerology is 'desert island'.

It's 'Modular Sequencer' environment allows so many exciting areas of exploration...

-'Wave shaped Master Clock' (to self and other apps!)
-Deriving timing and note extraction from LFO waveforms
-Easily controlled (and variable) CC generator sets (moving, phased sine waves in Fibonacci number ratios for example using the Dual LFO module (provides a 'mixed' version of two LFO's))
-'Ratio' and 'Percentage of' methods to relate sequencers to each other and master clock
-Continuously variable sequencer parameters like 'Start' and 'End' of sequence, clock division, etc.

...for just a few areas of infinite fun. Just think of a sequencer with modular CV patching for all (most) it's parameters, patchable to all manner of modulators! ;-)

I often replace Reaktor 'random' and 'jitter' mechanisms with Numerology controls as it allows a more 'composed', systematic approach to multiple parameter automations over time without having to actually write a bunch of automation tracks in your DAW.

Can't recommend it enough smile
Sinamsis
Maybe a stupid question and slightly off topic but what's the benefit of tracking in reaper when working in ableton?
secretkillerofnames
Sinamsis wrote:
Maybe a stupid question and slightly off topic but what's the benefit of tracking in reaper when working in ableton?


Whoops - I meant mixing. d'oh!

I don't like mixing in Live's Arrange window.
Sinamsis
Haha dude I've been debating the same thing. Except Id be mixing in logic. I guess you could switch to the other view in ableton. But it hard to get used to. If I had two monitors it might be ok.

Do you run numerology in stand alone or as a plugin in ableton?
crawling wind
I'm now just getting to know this program. I like how you can save snapshot variations of your sequences as presets, and then "perform" the presets. Very cool!
secretkillerofnames
Sinamsis wrote:
Haha dude I've been debating the same thing. Except Id be mixing in logic. I guess you could switch to the other view in ableton. But it hard to get used to. If I had two monitors it might be ok.

Do you run numerology in stand alone or as a plugin in ableton?


I have a Launchpad S and a Launchcontrol XL which i've setup to be able to control both Live and Numerology. I run Numerology stand-alone, though i've been trying to run it in Max 7 (with no real luck so far). The latency is too much for me in Live.

What I use Numerology for is improvisation whereas my work with Live and Max 4 Live is more about layering. Jamming out long-form ideas and recording each channel as a stereo track that can be edited later VS getting a sound together and recording to a clip.

I used to use Logic to mix tracks but figured I wasn't really doing anything I couldn't do in Reaper so got rid of it and saved a bunch of HDD space. wink
leeski
secretkillerofnames wrote:
Sinamsis wrote:
Maybe a stupid question and slightly off topic but what's the benefit of tracking in reaper when working in ableton?


Whoops - I meant mixing. d'oh!

I don't like mixing in Live's Arrange window.


Wow i find it (live) very useful and great for tweaking and consolidating blocks to edit, especially coming form logic pro
Maybe i'll have a look at Reaper thumbs up
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