5U bitcrusher or rate reducer or similar effect?

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5U bitcrusher or rate reducer or similar effect?

Post by theinnerpalm » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:10 pm

Does such a thing exist??

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Post by rezzn8r » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:36 pm

Modcan CV Recorder does bit reduction
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Post by mome rath » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:58 pm

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Post by dude » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:30 pm

sorry for this, but it's called sample and hold. audio signal to be sampled/rate reduced to sample in. audio rate wave (preferably square) into clock in. and voila, out you get a bit crushed version of your original signal from the sample out socket which can be controlled by how high/fast the clock signal is.

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of course there are other ways to do this too. modcan, doepfer and probably others...

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Post by parasitk » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:41 pm

There was that 5U version of the Geiger Counter too... I haven't heard anything about that in a while though.

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Post by dude » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:57 pm

just use any s/h, you will not be disappointed. a track and hold like the oakley one is really cool too! the modcan quantizer or any quantizer with clock in should work as well. many ways to skin this cat!

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Post by parasitk » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:06 am

Yeah the audio rate S&H is very cool as well! :tu:

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Post by zerosum » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:41 am

I believe work on the 5U geiger counter starts this year,
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Post by nerdware » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:26 am

The C806-WAVE-CRUSH will do the job. It should work in a dotcom system, altho the panel won't use the Moog style.
A square signal is being divided into 8 partitions. The level of each partition is adjustable.
- the square signal can be generated by an internal CV-LFO or by an external signal at the EXT-IN.
- adjustable control voltage input CV-IN
- SPEED control
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Post by rezzn8r » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:59 pm

dude wrote:audio signal to be sampled/rate reduced to sample in. audio rate wave (preferably square) into clock in. and voila, out you get a bit crushed version of your original signal from the sample out socket which can be controlled by how high/fast the clock signal is.
played with this idea a little after work today. pretty good results with a fast LFO to the clock in, better results with a VCO to the clock in, wicked results feeding the source 1volt/Oct signal to the VCO clocking the S&H.
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Post by dude » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:32 pm

indeed! it is way better than trying to find a dedicated bit crusher imo. as you can make it cv'able quite easily depending on your choice of in's. this wasn't my trivk btw. i had a simila or maybe even more frantic search for bit crushing when i first started and somebody hipped me to that patch. great fucking patch!

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Post by Kendall Station » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:57 am

parasitk wrote:Yeah the audio rate S&H is very cool as well! :tu:

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Post by theinnerpalm » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:05 pm

anyone have a clip with audio rate sample and holding??? thanks for all the tips guys :)

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Post by dude » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:55 pm

i'll try tp put one up , but the next few days are seriously busy. i really recommend just trying it!

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Post by theinnerpalm » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:06 pm

my modular has a whopping 2 modules right now :D updating soon

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Post by dude » Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:37 pm

oh, sorry bout that. i wrongly assumed you were being lazy. you know what they say about assumptions. :smack:

so do you have any requests as to what exactly you would like to hear crushed?

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Post by rezzn8r » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:35 pm

here is a little bit crushin' just fer you 8_)

mp3 fades in and out of the following;
1. Square Wave (source)
2. SW in/out of S&H with Modcan 61B LFO on clock
3. with Blacet VCO on clock
4. with Zerocillator on clock
5. SW in/out Modcan 57B CV Recorder

I used my Modcan 07B for the S&H. With the LFO or the Blacet I found the range of control to be limited. Only a small range of the pot is usable. The Zero, with its 10 turn tuning pot allowed much more control. The 57B kicks ass.

If I had an I/O, I would have used a voice, or something more dynamic for the source, but a square wave will have to do for now.
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Post by dude » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:22 pm

i am off the hook! that is, unless someone makes a specific request.

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Post by theinnerpalm » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:01 pm

awesome samples :) anyone have a drum loop crushed in this manner? I'm prolly going to have my modular used with send/returns in ableton for live performance :yay:

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Post by theinnerpalm » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:07 pm

and yes, the 57B is absurd sounding :hail:

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Post by bwhittington » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:52 pm

Thanks for the great patching tip, Liam!

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Post by dude » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:02 pm

again i can't take credit. i have to think whenever these simple type patches come up, how many millions of things am i overlooking?

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Post by rezzn8r » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:35 pm

theinnerpalm wrote:awesome samples :) anyone have a drum loop crushed in this manner? I'm prolly going to have my modular used with send/returns in ableton for live performance :yay:
I realized that when I did the last demo that I didn't use a square for the ZO. I mistakenly connected the clock to the ZO morph 0 set to tri.
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So here is a 606 through a S&H with the ZO properly configured for clock duties. Way more bottom end range with a square.

The Zero's frequency descends throughout the clip. The muted effect is the smooth on the S&H. There is a clean sample of the 606 loop at the end.

cheers
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Post by rezzn8r » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:03 pm

but if you really want your modular to mangle drums, this is the way to go...thanksJLR!! Awsome pics!
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Post by Soy Sos » Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:18 pm

Good examples rezzn8r,
I kept saying I would put up a demo soon but never got around to it.
I was using S+H for that kind of stuff all the time when I first picked up my A-148. S+H is a really useful technique for all kinds of stuff. No system should be with out it.

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