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[NEW RUN!] Random*Source Serge boats (4U) - regular / XL
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Author [NEW RUN!] Random*Source Serge boats (4U) - regular / XL
nordlead
Update 4 April 2016: New run is in production ...

Update: 22 Feb 2016: Based on a number of requests, I'm contemplating to do another boat run - please let me know if you are interested (and what kind - regular or XL).

Update: 25 Nov 2014: w00t We're now accepting orders for a 2nd run of our high-quality Random*Source Serge/4U boats w00t (the first round is already gone).

Actual pics of original version (1st run, brushed aluminum):



Some (exciting) changes compared to the first batch:

    * New material (AluNox), specially treated of aluminum with a stainless steel look.

    * More shallow (10mm less high = 70mm inside, 73mm outside without rubber feet) for increased sex appeal.

    * 2 widths: Regular (17" wide for 1 full panel or 4 modules in our 4x4 format) with optional rack ears and XL (+50% wider than the regular boat for 6 modules in 4x4 format or a full panel plus a 4x4 module on each side.

    * Prices: Regular boat: EUR 130 (+ EUR 30 for a pair of rack ears), XL boat (very limited number): EUR 200 (no rack ear option)


Shipping costs are expected to be the same (see below).

To order please send me an email (rather than a PM) - thanks!

More info and pics on the original (regular) boats from the original thread:

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After more than 8 months of checking out more than 5 different companies it looks like we finally found a way to get high quality, rock solid aluminum boats for Serge (style) panels manufactured:
nanners

    * for 4 Random*Source panels ("4x4" format) (upcoming!) or
    * for Edelweiss, La Bestia & Co. or
    * for 1 (full) Serge/STS panel or
    * for 2 M-Class + Obelisk
    * 1.5mm aluminum (sanded/ground)
    * no drilling / cutting required
    * cutout for Neutrik XLR (4-Pole power socket) in the side
    * M3/M4 threads
    * optional: CNC made rack ears, anodized
    * made in Germany
    * 3.5" (85 mm) deep


Prices:

4U Boat without rack ears: EUR 125 / USD 150
4U Boat with rack ears: EUR 155 / USD 185

(XLR jack is not included!)

Shipping: depending on # of boats and destination, here's an estimate

1-5 Boats with DHL within EU: € 16
1-5 Boats with DHL to USA: USD 50

We may have to adjust these prices slightly to account for paypal fees/exchange rates/rubber feet/packaging, but don't expect huge changes.

Additional pair of Rack Ears: EUR 30 / USD 35 (limited availability)

How to order:

Please post your order in this thread including your shipping destination like this:

2 boats + 2 pairs of rack ears, Italy

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ORDERS (1st RUN) (paid / shipped):

ndkent: 2 boats, 2 pairs of rack ears, USA
rattlework: 2 boats, 2 pairs of rack ears, USA
NYMo: 1 boat, 1 pair of rack ears, Australia
modintx: 3 boats, 3 pairs of rack ears, USA
udbhav: 2 boats, 2 pairs of rack ears, USA
PF: 2 boats, 2 pairs of rack ears, Sweden
bluedonkey: 1 boat, UK

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Some more info from the original thread:

Boat is designed to mount 4 modules (each 4.25" wide) ("4x4" format) or 1 full panel (Serge/STS format) or 2 M-class panels plus obelisk.

There's a cutout for a Neutrik 4-pole XLR socket for power (to connect the upcoming RandomSource PSU via XLR) plus a normal round hole in the back.

Material is 1.5mm (sanded/ground, not anodized) aluminum.

Rack ear mounts (for M4 screws) compatible with STS rack ears. We've also found another company that can made us nice rack ears (anodized aluminum, 3mm strong) that are CNC'd (not bent), so they have a nice sharp edge:

ndkent
2 boats 2 pairs of ears USA

I'm definitely interested in more, especially if the price point can come down a bit, but I also don't want to be caught short on money when it's time to pay.
rattlework
2 boats with 2 sets of rack ears USA
mothertongue
Ooh...looks nice!

What is the approximate weight of these boxes?
Jonachi
nordlead wrote:

* for 4 Random*Source panels ("4x4" format) (upcoming!)


Would like to know more about these before I make up my mind! hihi
NYMo
1 boat no rack ears a Australia

Cherrs
modintx
2 boats with 2 sets of rack ears USA
udbhav
2x boats with rack ears to the USA for me please.
nordlead
Started a list of orders in the first post - please let me know if I you detect an error there. thumbs up

mothertongue wrote:
What is the approximate weight of these boxes?


Just measured 535g for a boat with rack ears and a Neutrik XLR socket, but no rubber feet.

Jonachi wrote:
Would like to know more about these before I make up my mind!


The idea is simple: instead of a full panel like Edelweiss or La Bestia, we will produce quarter-size (4.25" wide) panels of the same quality. Each panel contains 4 1" cols, so you can mix and match, like (not the final designs yet!):



Will post more info on this soon...
grilojoe
nordlead wrote:

The idea is simple: instead of a full panel like Edelweiss or La Bestia, we will produce quarter-size (4.25" wide) panels of the same quality. Each panel contains 4 1" cols, so you can mix and match, like (not the final designs yet!):



Will post more info on this soon...


That's crazy. I've been kicking around an idea like this for about a month, but hadn't acted on it because I wasn't sure if I was crazy for even considering it. It was just last night I'd resolved to go ahead and build my modular this way. Mr. Green
PF
2 x boats with rackears for me... Sweden
gwaidan
Sweet!
Jonachi
nordlead wrote:
Started a list of orders in the first post - please let me know if I you detect an error there. thumbs up

mothertongue wrote:
What is the approximate weight of these boxes?


Just measured 535g for a boat with rack ears and a Neutrik XLR socket, but no rubber feet.

Jonachi wrote:
Would like to know more about these before I make up my mind!


The idea is simple: instead of a full panel like Edelweiss or La Bestia, we will produce quarter-size (4.25" wide) panels of the same quality. Each panel contains 4 1" cols, so you can mix and match, like (not the final designs yet!):



Will post more info on this soon...


Really looking forward to see what modules will be included in these panels! I would love to see the Clee quantizer!
Setherian
great idea, but let me ask, why not comply to the original serge 2.5" deep boat size? the lower the better right? and it can then fit the now so cheap m-cases..
nordlead
Setherian wrote:
great idea, but let me ask, why not comply to the original serge 2.5" deep boat size? the lower the better right?

We decided to start with a depth that's still DIY-friendly, 2.5" is a problem for some modules (like the new Var Q filter or Stereo Mixer) or when stacking PCBs is needed. Also, unless you use it for a full (STS) panel, it's nice to have some space for power distribution. In particular the XLR socket takes up some space inside. MOTM headers (which CGS and many others use for good reasons, but not STS) also take up about 2 cm in height. On the other hand, 4.5" is very comfortable, but doesn't look too sexy, so 3.5" seems to be a good middle ground.

The dual pcb approach used for fonik's dual 555 vco of course allows to go down to 2.5" or even lower, so this might come up in the future...

Setherian wrote:
and it can then fit the now so cheap m-cases..

Sorry, what cases are you referring to?
modintx
Jonachi wrote:

Quote:
Really looking forward to see what modules will be included in these panels! I would love to see the Clee quantizer!


I second that desire for the Clee in this format +1

w00t
tobb
You can't use these boats to fit a TKB panel into it,there are two missing holes at the bottom for that,i did send a message about that to include them but got no reply.
nordlead
tobb wrote:
You can't use these boats to fit a TKB panel into it,there are two missing holes at the bottom for that,i did send a message about that to include them but got no reply.


Hey tobb, sorry, can't seem to find that p.m. or email(?) - mind sending it again by email? (I don't have a TKB, so I'm not aware of this.) Thanks!
nordlead
Will have a look at the Clee quantizer - it does look interesting, indeed! w00t
Jonachi
applause applause applause
tobb
nordlead wrote:
tobb wrote:
You can't use these boats to fit a TKB panel into it,there are two missing holes at the bottom for that,i did send a message about that to include them but got no reply.


Hey tobb, sorry, can't seem to find that p.m. or email(?) - mind sending it again by email? (I don't have a TKB, so I'm not aware of this.) Thanks!


check in your spam folder maybe ,i did send it to

ralf (a) rh3.de some time ago

anyway look at the serge tkb front,the two bottom screws are setoff from the corners,thats because the screws serve also to hold the keypad pcb

I think its importand to include those two xtra fixing points,whenever Zthee will come up with his diy Serge TKB you won't be able to fix the panel in one of your boats
CLee
Really top quality work, nice.

(email sent to you Nordlead)

Craig
Pfurmel
Do these fit the BOCGS and Dimitri's panels?

Sorry if this has been answered already,

Barry
harolddonnelly
Great designs! Looking forward to the random source 4 panels pre boat. Are you going to continually do runs of these boats?
nordlead
Thanks for your comments, guys! thumbs up

Will look into the TKB suggestion, but I'm not sure if we are able to reflect this in the first round.

Pfurmel wrote:
Do these fit the BOCGS and Dimitri's panels?


I wouldn't know since I don't have any of these, but I believe they have holes that are not compatible with STS (but with BUD boxes). So I don't see why the panels themselves should not fit, but the existing mounting holes/threads can most likely not be used.

harolddonnelly wrote:
Are you going to continually do runs of these boats?


I'm really hesitant to do any forecasts here - so far the boat story has been close to a mission impossible, we've had quite a few setbacks, including one production company actually burning down(!)...
It looks like we are there now, but Murphy's law might still be applicable. Guess we'll do a first run and then take it from there.
w00t
wavehead
not seeing any reason why they wouldn't, but will these accommodate buchla panels as well?

these 4x4 panels could work really well alongside buchla (most likely would have to be separate boats for 15V/12V,etc. but whatever).
nordlead
Re TKB, it looks like zthee's upcoming TKB kit has different mounting hole positions compared to existing (STS) TKBs, which makes things more complicated. We'll probably ignore the TKB for the first round, but could think about a special (shallow - 2" ?) TKB boat for zthee's run if there is enough interest.

Anyway, we intend to place the order for the first round of boats and rack ears in a few days. So if you want to be in, please post in this thread.
kasey
Same question here re Buchla. From the OP:

"Boat is designed to mount 4 modules (each 4.25" wide)"

http://electro-music.com/forum/phpbb-files/modulepaneldimensions_132.p df

Are the holes the right distance from the corners? Crossing my fingers.
nordlead
Regarding Buchla, there has already been some discussion in the original thread, in short:

Our design is clearly aimed towards (existing or future) Serge users and 4U banana converts, so compatibility with existing (STS) panels is high priority. The 4x4 concept seems like a good way to add flexibility but still keep look and feel (and cost down).

Buchla is a different story IMO - different measurements, different voltages, power distribution requirements, so I think it makes more sense to leave this to projects dedicated to Buchla. Since mixing Serge + Buchla panels doesn't seem to make much sense, I don't see the benefit of having a boat to fit both.

Also, the we are using a very sophisticated technique in production - threads are made by the same machine that also does the laser cutting - right into the existing material (no more nuts pressed in). These threads already drive up the cost, so adding another 16 for Buchla would make it more expensive and probably not be possible due to overlapping holes.
nordlead
I keep hearing the Q-word - is this what you have in mind?

modintx
wow - looks amazing nordlead hyper

Looking at it laid out I can now see that the LCD option wouldn't fit unless you stretched it into more panel space horizontally.

I'll be after a couple of these from you - thank you for taking the time to mock it up!!

thumbs up
Jonachi
nordlead wrote:
I keep hearing the Q-word - is this what you have in mind?



Hell yeah!
bluedonkey
this looks great

Put me down for one boat going to uk.
PF
So when do you order the boats ?
nordlead
I'm in the process of getting the final details worked out with the production company (they proposed nice rivets which came in the wrong size, so I haven't seen them yet). The plan is to place the order this week...
nordlead
Order placed - waiting for confirmation w00t
modintx
SlayerBadger! applause
PF
nanners
nordlead
Order for rack ears also placed w00t - had to increase the number to get to the price level I calculated with, so there will be extra ones, if anyone is interested ...
nordlead
Rack ears are scheduled to arrive (end of) next week, boats should (hopefully) be here sooner, rubber feet for the boats just came in:



If everything works out I can start shipping by the end of next week ...
mudlogger
nordlead wrote:
Order for rack ears also placed w00t - had to increase the number to get to the price level I calculated with, so there will be extra ones, if anyone is interested ...


2 pairs of rack ears please, Thailand
sempervirent
Too late for changes obviously, but why not have the tab for the "rails" go all the way across with screws at 1" increments? Then you can mix 4x4 panels, single panels, STS M-Class, etc, and everything would be more modular.

The 4x4 is a cool idea and more flexible than the shop panels but not as flexible as single columns. Having single-function modules bundled with others behind a single panel inevitably leads to redundancy in a system. The added manufacturing cost would be minimal.

Respect for the hard work of course, the results are looking great and I'm sure this took an inordinate amount of time and effort.
nordlead
sempervirent wrote:
Too late for changes obviously, but why not have the tab for the "rails" go all the way across with screws at 1" increments? Then you can mix 4x4 panels, single panels, STS M-Class, etc, and everything would be more modular.

The 4x4 is a cool idea and more flexible than the shop panels but not as flexible as single columns. Having single-function modules bundled with others behind a single panel inevitably leads to redundancy in a system. The added manufacturing cost would be minimal.


Having the tab go straight across the boat would make mounting of STS modules hard or impossible - the gaps in between allow for some maneuvering space to account for the power cord or the cable binders holding the pcbs. Also, there's no simple grid that would allow all possibilities - 1" spacing would not be compatible with full panels like Edelweiss or any STS modules/panels.

Also, we're using a very fancy machine that does both the laser cutting and threads (right into the material, no pressed in nuts), so (roughly) doubling the number of threads would drive up the cost. For the same reason, we never aimed to be compatible with Buchla.

sempervirent wrote:

Respect for the hard work of course, the results are looking great and I'm sure this took an inordinate amount of time and effort.

thumbs up

The boat indeed turned out to be much tougher than expected ...
sempervirent
OK, thanks for all the info, and sorry to make assumptions. Getting things like this made is definitely not easy.
nordlead
Just came back from the production company and brought the first boat back from the actual run! (the other ones will be cleaned and wrapped on Monday):



Unlike the prototypes, the boats now have very nice (flat and closed) rivets.
Also, we optimized (rounded) the cutouts on top:
there are no more sharp corners and the space between the threaded parts (top to bottom) is wider,
making it easier to to insert modules/panels (appr. 4mm more compared to existing boats):



I also picked up the rack ears today Guinness ftw!

Shipping will start next week - I'll post details (payment etc.) in the next few days.
modintx
OMG they look wonderful w00t SlayerBadger! applause
Morley
They look great!
Jonachi
applause applause applause
Graham Hinton
nordlead wrote:
I also picked up the rack ears today Guinness ftw!


How are you going to plug the power connector in when it is mounted in a 19" case with sides?

Don't use a 3 pin XLR for power (it is a far too commonly used audio connector), 4 pin XLR if you must, but not for >250mA. XLRs are limited by their contact resistance and the wire size that can go through the cable entry--even with an extra large Neutrik boot. I recommend Trident connectors now as they have much lower contact resistance and can take larger cable sizes.
The normal Serge 4 pin power connectors may be panel mounted, the tabs that stick out the sides bend back and then they just clip into a rectangular hole. These would be electrically better and cheaper than XLRs inside a rack case.
Power cabling to an external PSU can end up getting very expensive and it effects the power rails regulation and performance of the modules.
CLee
The short side is really the only good place for the connector. It can't go on the long side for obvious reasons, and if it was on the bottom then folks couldn't use them on table tops.

Neutrik makes a nice right angle XLR plug, though I don't recall what direction the plug long side goes in relation to the pins. There should be enough room behind the rack rails for a right angle plug.

3PIN XLR is a poor choice for power though. 4PIN would be better. You could have 2 ground lines or maybe a 5v line...
nordlead
Thanks for the feedback! thumbs up thumbs up

Both the PSU enclosure and the boats are designed for Neutrik A series NC4MAV/NC4FAV sockets (4 pin XLR). The wire we use is the exact same one STS uses with the Molex connectors - and that one fits very nicely with the Neutrik plugs (XLR to Molex cable shown here). Actually, even a slightly bigger cable would fit in there (I doubt that this would make much difference for a meter or two, but for anyone needing long cables this is probably worth considering). The XLR cutout in the boat is simply a (nice) option - of course anyone is free to use the hole in the back wall to go through using existing Serge / molex cables or an XLR to molex cable like in the picture. I personally much prefer the XLR over the molex and I imagine having the cable locked in is a nice thing when performing live.

Clee, you're right, the position was also chosen with a right-angle connector in mind (Neutrik NC4FRX) which allows you to select the angle/direction. That should even work in a rack depending on space and access (it does in mine). Any yes, 2 ground lines coming from the PSU.
tojpeters
This is the wire I use for power cables.
I use a 4 pin XLR with gold plated contacts.
For the power supplies I build I have one 0v line and one chassis ground.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#7422K11
mono-poly
love nice!
nordlead
Thanks! Guinness ftw!

BTW, the additional rack ears I ordered to keep the calculated price are almost gone... if you need any, just send me an email (price is still € 30/USD 35 per pair) nanners
nordlead
Some more boat porn, showing the details:

Rack ears, 3mm anodized aluminum, M4 screws (stainless steel) come with the boat



Rack ears are screwed in from the outside (no need to open the boat). There's actually no nut at all:



Neutrik 90° angle connector from PSU attached (needs about 32mm / 1.26" of space):



Will start shipping next week w00t
modintx
love
nordlead
It's peanut butter jelly time! Boats are here - started shipping It's peanut butter jelly time!

Accepting payment now to ralf - at - rh3 - dot - de:

If you are in the EU: please paypal € 125 for each boat ordered without rack ears or € 155 for each boat with rack ears plus € 16 for shipping with DHL.

If you are elsewhere: please paypal USD 150 for each boat ordered without rack ears or € 185 for each boat with rack ears plus USD for shipping (up to 6 boats) with DHL.

Please make sure your Muff name and shipping address is included.

In case you want to use the boat(s) with an STS obelisk, please let me know and I will include a set of black M3 screws for the obelisk.
modintx
Wonderful news!! Payment sent w00t

Guinness ftw!
nordlead
Shipping almost complete ... w00t
PF
Got my boats and they are probuild quality. Very nice and not to forget the super price.

Thx

Leif
nordlead
PF wrote:
Got my boats and they are probuild quality. Very nice and not to forget the super price.


Thanks, Leif! Guinness ftw!

All orders have been shipped, we had a buch of extras but they are also almost gone - anyone interested in getting one of the last ones, send me an email or pm ...
sideman-chris
from france
christopheipm@gmail.com
modintx
Boats arrived in US today - nordlead was right, they look amazing in person, great finish and extremely well made - top notch and well worth the wait.

Thanks again for sourcing these and all the logistics involved - just a great job.

applause SlayerBadger! Guinness ftw!
nordlead
Guinness ftw! Thanks a lot, modintx!! - great to hear that! Guinness ftw!

Rockin' Banana!
modullos
Hi,

I would like one. Still available ??

Shipping to Switzerland. (mo.tek@me.com)

Thanks

Alex
nordlead
Boats are almost gone (only 2 left!) Dead Banana

Send me an email if you are interested in another round ...


There are some nice rack ears (CNC made, not bent) available ...
nordlead
... First round is gone ... Dead Banana

We doing a 2nd run right now as the production company will have a long Xmas holiday, so this is our last chance to start shipping boats in 2-3 weeks (beginning to mid December - otherwise it would be end of January).

Rockin' Banana! Rockin' Banana! Rockin' Banana!

We've also (finally!) managed to work out a way to use a fancy material we had in mind from the very beginning (AluNox by Thyssen) and we'll also offer (a limited number of) XL boats (25.5" wide) for 6 modules in 4x4 format. MY ASS IS BLEEDING

Please see the updated first post for details.
nordlead
New AluNox boats are here and they look gorgeous. w00t w00t w00t

Now only 70mm deep (inside) and also as an XL-version.

Turns out these are a nightmare to manufacture as extreme care is required in production (protective foil has to be removed before laser cutting), so prices will probably go up a bit...

For now we will sell these for € 130 (regular size without rack ears) and € 200 for the XL version. Numbers are very limited as they squeezed this in before Xmas, some more to arrive end of January ...

We will soon have a shop page, until then we're happy to accept orders by email.

It's peanut butter jelly time!

XL version (for 1 full panel + 2 4x4 modules or 6 4x4 modules):


Synesthesia
it's looking great ! ! !

nordlead, I know you are working on the 4x4 panels, but do you have plan to stock a bit more full panels ?

it might help getting those more out there smile
Jonachi
More full panels please! Ã°Å¸ËœÆ’Ã°Å¸Ëœà ’Ã°Å¸ËœÆ’
nordlead
Thanks, guys! thumbs up

I did not expect much interest in full panels once the 4x4 modules become available - what do you have in mind?
Jonachi
This!



But swap Quantiser and first ASR for Clee quantizer!
modintx
Oh I'd certainly be in for one of those with the CLEE w00t
mothertongue
Me too! thumbs up
Synesthesia
another La Bestia run would be great ... and a sequencer panel ! Klee sounds brilliant
Jonachi
Jonachi wrote:
This!



But swap Quantiser and first ASR for Clee quantizer!


Let's make it happen Nordlead! I'll help with a build doc! hihi

Also Edelweiss just won the "Best panel of the year" 2014! So it deserves to be in print again. La Bestia re-run might catch some interessest too. Keep the full panels alive!
ear ear
Jonachi wrote:
Keep the full panels alive!


Full panels are great - provided they are distinctive and coherent selections of functions. I'd love a panel including the Serge four-channel stereo mixer and four Resonant Equalizers, with either some sort of CV processing (a Dual Processor and two DC cross-faders, perhaps) or pre-amps in the remaining four spaces.
xonetacular
is there going to be another boat run?

could use 2xl boats
nordlead
xonetacular wrote:
is there going to be another boat run?

could use 2xl boats


Actually, since the questions keeps popping up, I'm happy to go for another boat run if there's enough interest.
Please let me know if you are interested by posting here (e.g. "1 XL" or "2 regular size boats"). I hope prices will stay the same, have for get confirmation once I have an idea about the size of the run ...
w00t
xonetacular
edit: 3xl boats for me
Rigo
I just realised that Edelweiss and La Bestia are 4U, so these boats could be an option (XL or not). That is, if the PSU is also available.
Otherwise I just have to be creative with wood ... make a mixed 3U and 4U case.
m0d01
2 regular boats
1 xl boat

and yeah...psu/distro boards too.

for me, at least smile
prscrptn
2x regular boats please! thumbs up
pre55ure
1 regular boat for sure,
possibly 2 more depending on how long this takes to happen.
pixelmechanic
1 regular boat, UK
mook1709
3 X Regular boats..Please
jhulk
2 regular for me when the panels go ahead
lcf
1 regular boat, France. Maybe a second one depends on when this happens.
I'll take a PSD kit A too.
mothertongue
2 regular boats please.
Sikkboy
I would be interested in 3 reg boats too, and a power supply kit! I am in the USA.
wminor
1 XL boat plus PSD kit please. I'm in the UK.

Could possibly be convinced to take 2 depending on when this happens.
xonetacular
might also be interested in 3-4 regular boats
appliancide
...
rpc
3 regular boats (and rack ears, PSD's, and power supply kit) please
johnnywoods
2-3 regular boats here! It would be great to have some preliminary info about the new bestia/edelweiss run as well. If it could all be ordered/shipped at once, that would obviously be super convenient.
3863high
Interested in 1-2 regular boats. USA
Thank you !!!
seeasound
1 xl boat + PSU pls
Federico
x1 Regular Boat please!
drwiener
I'd be interested in 1-2 regular size baots!
rampy
I'm interested in 2-3 regular size boats
flabby
2 regular boats and 1 XL
thetwlo
after building all of your euro-serge modules, i'm sold! The best. trying to figure out the PSU for a 4hp system.
Milanm
I'd be interested in and XL boat and a power supply.

Maybe 2 regular.....hmmmm
GryphonP3
I'm here wanting a single shallow boat! This is fun!
evilspock
I would like 1 regular boat with rack ears, contingent upon in-stock availability of the DUSG, SSG/RS, and VCFQ/VCFS modules at time of purchase. If I can't buy all at once, there's no point...
Federico
Anybody know what the status on these boats is? Right now I feel like I wasted 1000$ bucks on Random Source Modules. Very frustrating.
xonetacular
Federico wrote:
Anybody know what the status on these boats is? Right now I feel like I wasted 1000$ bucks on Random Source Modules. Very frustrating.


just stick them in a $30 bud boat in the meantime...
nordlead
Federico wrote:
Anybody know what the status on these boats is? Right now I feel like I wasted 1000$ bucks on Random Source Modules. Very frustrating.


Sorry that it took longer than I had hoped, as I said, since the sad death of my contact in the production company, things have not been as smooth as before, but I've just received confirmation of the boat order - a new batch (regular and XL) should arrive here in about 3 weeks (=end of April). w00t
m0d01
Awesome.i really need these! Can't wait.

Now for the psu wink
bogochitty
1 boat, 1 pair of rack ears, USA

Thank you!
yinsen
1x XL boat, australia, please and thankyou very much smile
nordlead
Fresh batch of boats arrived today - regular and XL! w00t w00t w00t

Available here: http://randomsource.net/boats

Please note that the shop system still contains bugs and is not really able to calculate the shipping cost - do not rely on the shipping cost you see there, I will get it tough if shipping cost is incorrect.

Please order on that page - I won't be able to contact people individually who expressed interest before.

(no rack ears! - they are produced by a different company. I could do another rack ear round if there is enough interest...)
nordlead
By now special (2-walled) cardboard boxes for the XL boats have arrived, so shipping XL will start now, too screaming goo yo

XL means 150% width compared to a regular boar (- ideal to host Edelweiss II plus two 4x4 modules ...):


Also, it's impossible for me to keep oversight over which boat (pre-)orders are linked to any Edelweiss II orders from this thread, so please just order whatever you need while stock lasts - thanks!
xonetacular
ordered
xonetacular
Hello

nordlead
Very nice setup!! MY ASS IS BLEEDING
Jonny
Has anyone created a piece of aluminum to attach 2 of the 17" boats together vertically? I currently don't have any Serge, but am looking into creating a 2x17 system of Random Source 4u.
js213
This the type of thing you're looking for?

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1877701#1877701
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