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Sherman Filterbank love?
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blinosynth
i know demdike stare use the restyler
i love the sound of both filter
the filterbank is somthing crazy

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJB76-dnf2U[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BWcdxqoJlA[/video]

i think this is the best demo introduction about filterbank
he is a genius!
and RTFM hihi
cosmic_son
AWWWW YEAHHHHH nanners
tron23
Massive thing, some audio please? w00t
Paranormal Patroler
thebug wrote:
got a QMF but have never used all 4 filterbanks at once


You're not supposed to. I've heard it would create a rupture in the audio spectrum.
drone
Does anyone know if the Sherman Filterbank XLR midi in/outs/thrus can be used for audio rate signals?

Or in general, using MIDI output or input with XLR to send an audio signal to/from a mixer?

Also, can anyone weigh in on comparing the Sherman 1 vs 2?


Thank you!
Paranormal Patroler
drone wrote:
Does anyone know if the Sherman Filterbank XLR midi in/outs/thrus can be used for audio rate signals?

Or in general, using MIDI output or input with XLR to send an audio signal to/from a mixer?


That's a most definite: not possible.
Mosiej
been meaning to do this for a really long time. Sadly I just sold my FB 2 so I've been doing hella recordings before I ship her off.

Radio -----> FB2 (FM 'sometimes' controlled by Maths / AM cable to nothing)

https://soundcloud.com/beverly1/listens-to-the-radio
PapaG
Some really lovely and subtle stuff going on in this new video. Who knew a standard DAW osc could sound so nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP-qv7OCPOA
stopthesignal
I have a Restyler and I love it. Admittedly I probably haven't even fully explored all of its possibilities, but it is a killer filter with a lot of interesting filter modes.

The resonance is extreme, as someone else noted. But man, it has some excellent uses. You can really add some boom running a kick drum through it in high pass mode with the cutoff right around the frequency of the kick and the resonance set to taste.

It's not quite the mangling monster that I've heard the Filterbank is, but you can use the envelope follower to break things up quite a bit as well. I keep it permanently in the FX chain of my Rodec Scratchbox (but it's wired into my patchbay also for random uses).
latigid on
Here's some very rough jams/demos recorded a long time ago. They were recorded from a room mic onto tape then transferred to computer, no edits. So not HiFi but you might get an idea of what the Sherman can do:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mdnrgcdpanpp6ne/46a%20Sherman%20%2B%20Space% 20echo.mp3?dl=0
Moog Voyager + FB2 + RE-150.

The warnings are accurate; there's no high/low shelf filters so it can scream and go into subaudio. My favourite setting is to lock the second filter to 1.5, probably something around LP + LP/BP. The EG sustain goes negative, so can be something like an LPG.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/imjo9zs4xpz5exm/40B%20wicked%20sherman%2Bbas s%2B%20Gdub%20%2B%20Chroma.mp3?dl=0
This might have been the first try. If you stick with it there's some really wacky intermodulation that happens (bass + FB2).
High Wolf
I recently got one, I have to say it's very different from any other filter I have, not so intuitive at first. I have to spend time with it to learn it when I thought it would be kinda instant gratification.

For instance I'm not so sure what those "-B -B+LH" knobs exactly do. There's just about one line about it in the manual...can someone explain a bit?
dvdborn
It's the "correction knob". I suggest you download the manual: http://www.sherman.be/index.php/support/downloads

It's explained in chapter 1.
The idea behind this knob was to overcome the limitations of the Lp/Bp/Hp balance knob.
latigid on
That's more or less how I'd picture it -B cuts the "band pass" freq (or is it the resonance?), +LH boosts the low and high "shelves."

Another thing: you could set up a basic notch filter as well, probably not exactly a phase shifter, but something along those lines.
High Wolf
I did download the manual of course...but this quote "The idea behind this knob was to overcome the limitations of the Lp/Bp/Hp balance knob." seems a bit vague to me. No explanation about what it really does. That's why I called for help smile

Now -B means - Bypass and +LH means + Low High so that's something, but if someone who know care to explain what it really does that would help.
dvdborn
Quote:
I did download the manual of course...

Sorry about that :-)

Quote:
Now -B means - Bypass

Actually, it means Band pass

If you had 3 knobs, one for each filter type (Low pass, Band pass and High pass) than you'd be able to e.g. set Low pass to 100%, Band pass to 0% and High pass to 100%. This would create a notch filter.

Having only 1 knob that morphs between Low, Band and High pass won't give you this ability. Hence the extra correction knob.

So, turning the correction knob to the left (-B) will increase the Band pass filter cut off. Hence cutting out those frequencies.

Turning the correction knob to the right (-B+LH) will increase the Band pass filter cut off and decrease the Low and High pass cut off. In effect, passing through more Low and High frequencies.

Hope that clears it up a bit.
High Wolf
Thanks dvdborn

yeah my bad I definitely meant Bandpass!

So - B actually means cutting bandpass, like narrowing down the bandwidth?

And -B + LH does the same while letting more high and low pass?

Damn I wish there was a curve drawing or something...Also I need to just sit down with the machine and feed it only a simple waveform or something and test it so I understand better (so far been using it with drum machine only).
dvdborn
I suggest feeding it white noise than listen to the results when you turn the knobs.

Send the result to a spectral analyzer and see what happens.
latigid on
dvdborn wrote:

If you had 3 knobs, one for each filter type (Low pass, Band pass and High pass) than you'd be able to e.g. set Low pass to 100%, Band pass to 0% and High pass to 100%. This would create a notch filter.



I don't know exactly how the Sherman works, but my guess is that there are HP and LP filters on F1 and F2. The LP-BP-HP knob is a cross-fading mixer. If you mix the two main filter types you get a BP, with a centre freq about equal to the cutoffs of both. If there's a way of attenuating the _amplitude_ or gain at the cutoff freq, this would be my best guess at what the -B control does.

I think the +LH side applies gain to shelving filters on the LP and HP filters.

I haven't played with mine in a while, so take with a grain of salt.
platform


Got a Sherman Filterbank Compact. So much smaller and more convenient than old version! I'm in love.
drowld
platform wrote:


Got a Sherman Filterbank Compact. So much smaller and more convenient than old version! I'm in love.

nice where from ?
platform
Juno have the best UK price if you ask them for a deal.
jimmie
The compact looks so nice! really hope to get one someday...
platform
It's so nice to be able to plop it in front of the euro and not have to worry about dicking around the back of it to get cables in.

It's satisfyingly solid and heavy too.
suboptimal
I'm awfully jealous. Really struggling right now with where to put my old school unit.
verstaerker
sherman fb makes a nice synth for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoksiRp640A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoksiRp640A
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