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Post by smetak » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:38 pm

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I was excited when Monk announced the new 856 for ZELLERSASN, but, quite frankly, the demos didn't really cut it for me - couldn't really understand what was going on or how to use the thing. Anyway, this seems to have been definitively scraped from the Montreal Assembly site; there's not even an announcement on their shop section.
I had a Zellersasn for about a month. I thought that it was going to be a CT5 on steroids but it's really an entirely different thing. It also had one of the most inscrutable interfaces I've ever encountered on a piece of gear ever. Even after learning it well, I would daily end up with it doing behavior that I didn't expect and couldn't figure out why it was doing and would have to pull the plug. I eventually sold it on reverb for a truly inappropriate amount of money. Last I saw, he had already redesigned the interface.
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Post by Bath House » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:47 pm

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I was excited when Monk announced the new 856 for ZELLERSASN, but, quite frankly, the demos didn't really cut it for me - couldn't really understand what was going on or how to use the thing. Anyway, this seems to have been definitively scraped from the Montreal Assembly site; there's not even an announcement on their shop section.
I had a Zellersasn for about a month. I thought that it was going to be a CT5 on steroids but it's really an entirely different thing. It also had one of the most inscrutable interfaces I've ever encountered on a piece of gear ever. Even after learning it well, I would daily end up with it doing behavior that I didn't expect and couldn't figure out why it was doing and would have to pull the plug. I eventually sold it on reverb for a truly inappropriate amount of money. Last I saw, he had already redesigned the interface.
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Nope, mine was in the 700's I think. I put it up for the price kind of as a joke and to get attention before dropping it to something sane and then it sold overnight. :eek:
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Post by adolfgottmann » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:09 am

Any plan to have a reseller in Europe? Pipe dream right?

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Post by smetak » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:55 pm

Seems to be an alternative to the Ct5:

http://www.redpandalab.com/blog/introducing-the-tensor/

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Post by bobdylan » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:36 pm

I got my count to five in the last batch from Montreal Assembly and I'm absolutely loving it for guitar. Kind of reignited my love for guitar after spending 5 months delving into eurorack for the first time. I was hoping it wouldn't degrade the samples as heavily for other audio but I guess considering the crazy stuff it's doing it makes sense.

In conjunction with the Infinite Jets it's a match made in heaven.

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Post by Antlerface » Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:05 pm

Been running the Easel through CT5. What a stellar piece of kit. I have one on my guitar board; and I'm definitely going to buy another when they're released again, which should be "who knows when" based on previous Montreal Assembly releases.

On the topic of 856: when it worked predictably that was an awesome pedal. So 80% of the time I liked what I got out of it. The interface was so abysmally terrible and counterintuitive that I got rid of it after six months or so. The new layout looks better, I hope to try it again in the future.

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Post by Shrigg » Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:22 pm

I picked up a CT5 here at muffs and it's been a fun exercise in chaos. Only tried it with bass guitar thus far but can certainly see the potential, now to tame the beast... :cool:
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Post by notjoesuthers » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:44 am

Anybody else excited for their take on the PLL?

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Post by paranoidmoonduck » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:10 pm

it's really interesting to see how the ideas in the CT5 have become increasingly common in eurorack stuff. the new mannequins module w/ is especially similar (using CV instead of any knobs).

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Post by MindMachine » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:00 am

paranoidmoonduck wrote:it's really interesting to see how the ideas in the CT5 have become increasingly common in eurorack stuff. the new mannequins module w/ is especially similar (using CV instead of any knobs).
Funny. I just tonight added a second Malekko SND/RTN module and plugged in my CT-5 into the old Euro modular. Sweet. Still a lot more immediate control than the W/ (which I will likely score).

There are a lot of similar Euro modules to the Particle too, but I bought a second Particle to make sure I could use one in patches if I desire. Seems more immediate than what I have seen with modules (the 2HP Freeze rocks though).
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Post by paranoidmoonduck » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:26 pm

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paranoidmoonduck wrote:it's really interesting to see how the ideas in the CT5 have become increasingly common in eurorack stuff. the new mannequins module w/ is especially similar (using CV instead of any knobs).
Funny. I just tonight added a second Malekko SND/RTN module and plugged in my CT-5 into the old Euro modular. Sweet. Still a lot more immediate control than the W/ (which I will likely score).

There are a lot of similar Euro modules to the Particle too, but I bought a second Particle to make sure I could use one in patches if I desire. Seems more immediate than what I have seen with modules (the 2HP Freeze rocks though).
I still like the flexibility of desktop units, but if you're solely working within a single eurorack case and have adapted to use CV as the sole control of your system, stuff like the Morphagene and /w make more sense.

it's definitely interesting to see the cross pollination between guitar pedals and eurorack modules these days though.

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Post by JohnLRice » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:40 pm

paranoidmoonduck wrote:it's definitely interesting to see the cross pollination between guitar pedals and eurorack modules these days though.
Smart pedal makers should start adding some 3.5mm jacks to their pedals in addition to the existing 1/4" ones? At least for the audio inputs and outputs that have the needed voltage and impedance handling for eurorack but . . . maybe also one or more for CVing of parameters?

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Post by popvulture » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:59 am

Dwarfcraft is already doing this, always cool to see. I agree the moar the better.
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Post by paranoidmoonduck » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:05 pm

Would love to see more of that, for sure. Less worried about 3.5mm jacks, since 1/4" to 1/8" cables aren't impossible to find, but would love to see pedals that can work flawlessly with Eurorack voltages.

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Post by Homepage Englisch » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:45 am

Just got mine, played it today for the first time. Wow. We "clicked" immediately! It inspires me to make music. Delay, looper, sampler, harmonizer, octaver, arpeggiator; if necessary also a tremolo, chorus, reverb, it goes even into a ring modulator territory!

Funny thing, I'm usually quite sloppy guitar player. However, with this thing, just following the pedal's pulse, I recorded a lengthy session of fast paced licks, no mistakes, no oscillations in tempo. Must be that mental flow thing.

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Post by smetak » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:42 am

I ended up getting Red Panda's Tensor and must say using it way more than the Ct5 - much easier to control and use. And the looping capability is better; also, getting a kick out of the "Random knob" - a very impressive pedal, which seems to emulate and improve some of the features on the Ct5.

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Post by MindMachine » Sun Apr 22, 2018 1:18 am

^ The Tensor does look incredible. More straightforward. You should start a thread to convince me. :mrgreen:

I've been using the CT-5 on a SND/RTN for my Euro modular and it is working out really well. Using it to catch certain phrases to play over, etc. Really nice for the way I work (live/improvised).

Tonight it gets bad harmonica.
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Post by smetak » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:26 pm

MindMachine wrote:^ The Tensor does look incredible. More straightforward. You should start a thread to convince me. :mrgreen:

I've been using the CT-5 on a SND/RTN for my Euro modular and it is working out really well. Using it to catch certain phrases to play over, etc. Really nice for the way I work (live/improvised).

Tonight it gets bad harmonica.
Ah, you should definitively give the Tensor a try - I found it more manageable, especially with the looping - a bit over 4 seconds of looping, but you can really zero in on the phrase. And found it easier to speed up and slow down the delay time. A beast less wild than the Ct5, but a very exciting pedal!

Quite frankly, Red Panda is becoming my favorite pedal brand - this is their third pedal that I buy and like all of them immensely.

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Post by Jaypee » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:33 pm

this pedal seems great but hard to get...what are the alternatives?
Even in VST/M4L etc...
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Post by Cowabunga-man » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:50 am

Jaypee wrote:this pedal seems great but hard to get...what are the alternatives?
Even in VST/M4L etc...
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Post by Jaypee » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:09 am

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Jaypee wrote:this pedal seems great but hard to get...what are the alternatives?
Even in VST/M4L etc...
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Post by MindMachine » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:16 am

smetak wrote:
MindMachine wrote:^ The Tensor does look incredible. More straightforward. You should start a thread to convince me. :mrgreen:

I've been using the CT-5 on a SND/RTN for my Euro modular and it is working out really well. Using it to catch certain phrases to play over, etc. Really nice for the way I work (live/improvised).

Tonight it gets bad harmonica.
Ah, you should definitively give the Tensor a try - I found it more manageable, especially with the looping - a bit over 4 seconds of looping, but you can really zero in on the phrase. And found it easier to speed up and slow down the delay time. A beast less wild than the Ct5, but a very exciting pedal!

Quite frankly, Red Panda is becoming my favorite pedal brand - this is their third pedal that I buy and like all of them immensely.
Tensor is at the top of the list. I have two Particles and use them all of the time, so I know what you mean.

My CT-5 will remain plugged, whether voice, bass, CR-78, Euro modular or Yamaha Reface YC/CP...

I need to try it with a cassette loop next. I have several cassette machines and cd players into their own sub mixer(s) that need more mojo. Surprised I just considered this.

Fun. :boat:

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Post by smetak » Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:19 pm

For anyone out there on the lookout for a Ct5 and a 856 - just received this:

http://mtlasm.tictail.com/

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Post by dkcg » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:26 pm

Picked up my second one. I wish I jumped on a blem, but you’re snooze you lose. Should be fun!

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Post by MindMachine » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:19 am

That 856 is too heavy for my addled mind. It gives me Fripp nightmares.
dkcg wrote:Picked up my second one. I wish I jumped on a blem, but you’re snooze you lose. Should be fun!
So left and right channel? Stereo CT5?

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