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Any 5U filters with a Roland or Korg Polysix type chip?
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Author Any 5U filters with a Roland or Korg Polysix type chip?
alternating.bit
BESIDES Curetronic, that is.
I'm just looking if there are any other options.

Thanks
sonicwarrior
Do you mean real SSM chips?

There is the MOTM-440 which clones the SSM-2040 (not the SSM-2044 used in the Polysix but I guess they sound similar).
But it's not in Dotcom format but can be done in that as it's available as a DIY project.
Thalassa
The C101 is the same kind of filter ( 4 OTA stages ) that you can find in many classic Roland synths like System 700, System 100m, Roland SH-1, SH-7, SH-101, Roland Jupiter 8... smile

http://corsynth.com/home/modules/c101-filter
alternating.bit
MOTM is fine. And the 440 filter is actually the hailed must of all MOTM filters I hear. Looks like once I again I'll need to consider it. Not sure why it seems so hard to come by vs the other ones, but of course its also very pricey.

And I never noticed that Corsynth one... looks nice I'll have to consider that. That Roland list is exactly what I want (well, Juno 106 but same family).


If I got both the MOTM-440 and the Corsynth C101, that'd run me roughly $750, plus the Gate Delay by Moon I'm interested in, that would total around $1,050. If I build a mini Curetronic rack with the two similar filters, plus their gate delay "Tool" module, and an additional fully functional VCO + Stonehenge advanced filter it'd run me about $1400.
I guess it would depend if I want to have different module set in my scheme.

Thanks for the help.
eolianmollisol
@alternating.bit

not to be off-topic, but I miss your sherlock foto eek!
alternating.bit
eolianmollisol wrote:
@alternating.bit

not to be off-topic, but I miss your sherlock foto eek!


Not to be? I'd say that's quite off-topic. And um... download it from my thread on it? Here is the link.
eolianmollisol
my apologies. love it! thanks.
Synthbuilder
Oakley COTA is also inspired by the first generation of Roland's cascaded filters such as that found on the System 700 and SH-1. It also has additional -12dB/octave and bandpass ouputs too.

Tony
alternating.bit
Synthbuilder wrote:
Oakley COTA is also inspired by the first generation of Roland's cascaded filters such as that found on the System 700 and SH-1. It also has additional -12dB/octave and bandpass ouputs too.

Tony


Got a link with samples?
I did a search on both YouTube & SoundCloud... couldn't find any. Thanks.
alternating.bit
Allow me to answer my own question.

Oakley Cota Filter Samples page

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Nice... now it's this vs the Corsynth... hmmm.....
EDIT: ok, heard both sample pages again. Corsynth C101 wins for me.
Tronman
alternating.bit wrote:
Allow me to answer my own question.

Oakley Cota Filter Samples page

thumbs up
Nice... now it's this vs the Corsynth... hmmm.....
EDIT: ok, heard both sample pages again. Corsynth C101 wins for me.


You won't be sorry. Route a couple of oscillators tuned to low fifths through the C101 and be prepared to be dazzled.
Shy
Old thread, but I'll reply anyway.

sonicwarrior wrote:
There is the MOTM-440 which clones the SSM-2040 (not the SSM-2044 used in the Polysix but I guess they sound similar).

No, MOTM-440 and SSM2044 sound nothing alike. MOTM-440 has a balanced, "vanilla" sound, and is great because it doesn't muffle high frequencies in any condition including resonance at 0. Its resonance sounds much "harsher" than SSM2044's. The overall steepness of the SSM2044 is much higher than MOTM-440's. Its sound is super "liquidy" and "fat", and just very different than any OTA-based module's.

alternating.bit: I have a Curetronic 2044 VCF module and a custom MOTM-440 module by FSFX (dotcom format). I could record something with both for comparison, if you want. I think the current price of the Curetronic module is very high, but I can tell you that it's a very high quality, great module. It is apparently the only option for non-DIY SSM2044 in dotcom format. And there are hardly any original SSM or CEM chip-based modules in dotcom format. Too bad. The sound is hardly comparable to others', unfortunately.
Shy
Here's a comparison between SSM2044 (Curetronic 2044 VCF module) and MOTM-440 (Free State FX custom MOTM-440 VCF module).

Both filters' tunings are very closely matched.

https://synth.in/audio/samples/Shy-bassline-MOTM-440.flac
https://synth.in/audio/samples/Shy-bassline-SSM2044.flac
alternating.bit
Shy, your responses and samples are appreciated, especially for archival purposes and for other people. Of course I already satisfied my thirst via the Corsynth a long time ago, and gave up on Curetronic when they couldn't sell me a full system in one shot due to some sort of customs rules. I don't want just a module or two as their style is in a class of itself and warrants a separate case.

I own the MOTM-440 (FSFX version) now as well.
Shy
No problem, thanks. Yeah, their modules are definitely very different and stick out (literally too smile), so not an option for someone who wants to keep a uniform look.

The new SSI2144 chip (made by former SSM people) seems good, but unfrotunately there's no demo with plain sawtooth wave being processed, with no additional processing, so I can't really know how it is compared to 2044. It's improved in some ways and can use much less power. I hope someone will make a dotcom format module with it. We always seem to be left out smile.
Thalassa
Shy wrote:
The new SSI2144 chip (made by former SSM people) seems good, but unfrotunately there's no demo with plain sawtooth wave being processed, with no additional processing, so I can't really know how it is compared to 2044. It's improved in some ways and can use much less power. I hope someone will make a dotcom format module with it. We always seem to be left out


Your prayers have been heard thumbs up In April - May I will be releasing a new module based on the new SS12144. I've posted the info on the thread about a 1U version of mu OTA filter., but I have to make a new one just for the module.

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2782903&highlight=#2 782903

Here you have a quick demo that I recorded with the prototype unit.

[s]https://soundcloud.com/corsynth/c110vcfdemo[/s]
Dr Gris
I started my modular with the intention to get a "Moogy type" sound.
By now I have only 1 "Moogy type" filter and 4 Roland/Korg type filters.
Plus the 440 and 2 410 PS style bandpass filters... Mr. Green

I love the new C110 filter!
I might need that too hihi

//M
josaka
the more "alternate" sounding filters the better.. gives you more options.

..would love a 3 pole phase filter .. also filters that have some folding options..there are some with drive/vca why not some other shaping options..ring mod ? we dont have to follow everything thats gone before !!
Dr Gris
josaka wrote:
the more "alternate" sounding filters the better.. gives you more options.

..would love a 3 pole phase filter .. also filters that have some folding options..there are some with drive/vca why not some other shaping options..ring mod ? we dont have to follow everything thats gone before !!


Maybe something like this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qsq0F4waXUs

Video by sduck we're not worthy

//M
Dave Peck
There's also the Rob Hordijk Phaser Filter (although I don't think it's available as an individual module, only as part of his triple-module panels).

https://sdiy.info/wiki/Rob_Hordijk_Phaser_Filter

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32246&sid=b75f644003 92169292f4aba4bb793235

But I'll brag: I actually do have one as a separate module, it's an early pre-production unit and it's wonderful!
josaka
Dr Gris wrote:
josaka wrote:
the more "alternate" sounding filters the better.. gives you more options.

..would love a 3 pole phase filter .. also filters that have some folding options..there are some with drive/vca why not some other shaping options..ring mod ? we dont have to follow everything thats gone before !!


Maybe something like this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qsq0F4waXUs

Video by sduck we're not worthy
//M

been eyeing that video for a few years now wink booty wiggler

Quote:

There's also the Rob Hordijk Phaser Filter (although I don't think it's available as an individual module, only as part of his triple-module panels).

https://sdiy.info/wiki/Rob_Hordijk_Phaser_Filter

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=32246&sid=b75f644003 92169292f4aba4bb793235

But I'll brag: I actually do have one as a separate module, it's an early pre-production unit and it's wonderful!

Mr. Green ..yep stuff like these smile

@ 3.43 here is a basic use of one.(I have an expander smile )

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