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Roland System 500
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Biff
[quote="Eichburger"]
BlackDoors wrote:
Sleipnir wrote:
ericxnelson wrote:

The 530 VCA requires 10v to fully open in linear mode (not mentioned anywhere but the downloadable spec sheet).

Obviously not a problem if you keep it in the family, just hoping to alleviate any surprises.


Thanks for the heads-up here, I was considering moving into system 500 starting with the VCF and VCA (really like the range of inputs on the VCA!) but I might wait till I can have the EG too (and enough space....). I'll check out intellijel dual VCA output voltage when I get a chance (I have that as well as a maths).


I was wondering why I was getting such low output but I'm still a bit confused. My 540 envelope is only putting out 7.2v with the sustain at max. With the 530 VCA on Exp mode the output level is very low. The output actually goes higher if I switch to linear mode??

Is all of that consistent for other users?


I think it's normal. They recommend setting the output to 1 rather than 0 in exp mode, rather odd, but still inaudible even though you're letting sound through.

Also the Doepfer amp module (A-183-3) is great for these modules to boost signals for using other things or attenuate. I have my system 500 next to an MS-20m, which was great because it gave me time on getting the 540 and not being w/o envelopes and lfos.
Eichburger
[quote="Biff"]
Eichburger wrote:
BlackDoors wrote:
Sleipnir wrote:
ericxnelson wrote:

The 530 VCA requires 10v to fully open in linear mode (not mentioned anywhere but the downloadable spec sheet).

Obviously not a problem if you keep it in the family, just hoping to alleviate any surprises.


Thanks for the heads-up here, I was considering moving into system 500 starting with the VCF and VCA (really like the range of inputs on the VCA!) but I might wait till I can have the EG too (and enough space....). I'll check out intellijel dual VCA output voltage when I get a chance (I have that as well as a maths).


I was wondering why I was getting such low output but I'm still a bit confused. My 540 envelope is only putting out 7.2v with the sustain at max. With the 530 VCA on Exp mode the output level is very low. The output actually goes higher if I switch to linear mode??

Is all of that consistent for other users?


I think it's normal. They recommend setting the output to 1 rather than 0 in exp mode, rather odd, but still inaudible even though you're letting sound through.

Also the Doepfer amp module (A-183-3) is great for these modules to boost signals for using other things or attenuate. I have my system 500 next to an MS-20m, which was great because it gave me time on getting the 540 and not being w/o envelopes and lfos.


Thanks Biff. It's reassuring to know mine are working normally. Certainly not a problem to deal with. I have been multing the envelope across two VCA control inputs if I want a higher amplitude.
rsaintjohn
Aiyn Zahev wrote:
I did a little overview and demo of the 540 module


A thumbs-up on the video on YouTube isn't enough, I really want to thank you for taking the time to do this!
Aiyn Zahev
rsaintjohn wrote:
Aiyn Zahev wrote:
I did a little overview and demo of the 540 module


A thumbs-up on the video on YouTube isn't enough, I really want to thank you for taking the time to do this!


Thank you, I really appreciate that. I'm going to get to the filters next probably, I'm just waiting on a couple of supporting modules, a Metropolis being one of them!
Aiyn Zahev
I just put up a video of the 521 VCF with lots of demo audio

TemplarK
May I ask any Roland 530 owners how exactly the sum outputs work,

My question really is are the sums modulated by both sets of CVs?

Would i only need to send one envelope to control all 6 inputs if I use the SUM?

How exactly does this part work thanks?>
jicamasalad
TemplarK wrote:
May I ask any Roland 530 owners how exactly the sum outputs work,

My question really is are the sums modulated by both sets of CVs?

Would i only need to send one envelope to control all 6 inputs if I use the SUM?

How exactly does this part work thanks?>


hi there:

think of it as two identical VCAs, each with three modulation sources
so you can mix signals from what we might call inputs a1, a2 and a3 with signals from b1, b2 and b3 and get all at the sum output, but modulation to the "a" VCA will only affect signals on the "a" inputs - "b" signals would be unmodulated (only "mixed" via the input faders) at the sum output

modulation sources ARE mixed within each VCA, and this produces great results, as i'm sure you're aware

you would need to send the same modulation signal(s) to modulation inputs on both the "a" and "b" sides to get the result you describe

hope this helps!

- ks
WaveRider
Aiyn Zahev wrote:
I just put up a video of the 521 VCF with lots of demo audio



great demo, it really sounds like vintage Roland overall a very good filter, tough to pass up! the kit must be very nice too. I bought most of my modular a few years ago but if I would be starting now I would start with this Roland kit.... tasty
bgcriswell
This is a little something I threw together with my system500 this morning.

http://www.instagram.com/p/BUknEHDBvHU
Ciderfeks
Hello MW'ers. My first post here on MW but I've been following this thread for some time and now I've finally taken the plunge and got myself an S500 complete set. It's my first modular system and first step down the Eurorack rabbit hole too.

So having spent a week or so with it my first impressions are that I really like the System 500 - it sounds fantastic and over all I'm very happy with it. I hope it will make an excellent centre piece for whatever modules I inevitably end up adding!

There are a couple of minor niggles - some of which seem like odd design decisions rather than issues with the modules (the nasty micro power switch on the back of the case which is all but unreachable in most set-up situations and that undersized blanking plate just looks odd to me) and other things that have been well documented here like the VCO range knob blipping as you move through the octaves, but no big deal. As one other poster here mentioned before me I also find that when the envelopes are in cycle mode, moving to higher attack and/or decay settings can cause the cycle to stop, requiring a manual re-trigger but I never found out if this is expected behaviour or not. Any further thoughts on this? One thing I haven't heard anyone else mention is that the VCO's go out of tune with each other if they are set more than two range intervals apart - anyone else get this? Not that it doesn't sound great anyway with a bit of detuning and its easily remedied with the fine tune controls of course.

Finally another quick question for you guys before this post turns into an epic - does anyone know what is the safe upper limits are for CV and Ext gate input voltages? I've successfully used a Devilfish TB-303 and an old Kenton Pro-2 for external control but recently read somewhere that higher CV/gate voltages could cause problems - is that true? The Kenton outputs the highest gate at +15v for on, with the TB putting out +12v. The TB also has available an accent output voltage of +6v which would be nice to use to modulate the S500 filter, but is this too hot for a standard CV?

Cheers guys.
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