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So, are we going to talk about these new Pittsburgh cases?

Post by facklr » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:02 am

http://pittsburghmodular.com/structure/

STRUCTURE EP-360

EP-360 Power
6 amps of Clean +12v Power
6 amps of Clean -12v Power
5 amps of Clean +5v Power

45 Keyed Eurorack Power Headers
External Power Switch with LED
Universal IEC Power Connector

EP-360 Enclosure
Hardwood and Steel Construction
Three 120hp Rows
360hp total space available
Removable Lid
Lid Fits Over Fully Patched System (No need to remove patch cables)
Edge to Edge Rails Reduce Gaps Between Modules and the Case Side
24 Smooth Sliding Square Nuts Per Rail (Holds up to 72 modules)
Includes 150 Black (Size 4-40 1/4") Module Mounting Screws
Beautifully Hand-Stained Hardwood
Matching Black Steel Hardware Set
EP-360 Dimensions
External Depth with lid:9 1/4”
External Depth without Lid: 5 1/2”
External Height: 17”
External Width: 25 1/2”
Internal Depth Above Power Supply: 2 3/4”
Internal Depth Above Bus Board: 3 3/4”
Internal Depth Above Nothing: 4 1/4”

STRUCTURE EP-208

MAXIMUM POWER FOR A NEW GENERATION
A serious double row, 208hp powered eurorack travel case with lid. Includes a heavy duty, internal power supply designed to exceed the needs of the most demanding analog and digital eurorack systems.

STRUCTURE EP-208 FEATURES:

EP-208 Power
4 amps of Clean +12v Power
3 amps of Clean -12v Power
2 amps of Clean +5v Power
30 Keyed Eurorack Power Headers
External Power Switch with LED
Universal IEC Power Connector

EP-208 Enclosure
Hardwood and Steel Construction
Two 104hp Rows
208hp total space available
Removable Lid
Lid Fits Over Fully Patched System (No need to remove patch cables)
Edge to Edge Rails Reduce Gaps Between Modules and the Case Side
20 Smooth Sliding Square Nuts Per Rail (Holds up to 40 modules)
Includes 80 Black (Size 4-40 1/4") Module Mounting Screws
Beautifully Hand-Stained Hardwood
Matching Black Steel Hardware Set

EP-208 Dimensions
External Depth with lid:9 1/4”
External Depth without Lid: 5 1/2”
External Height: 12 1/4”
External Width: 22”
Internal Depth Above Power Supply: 2 3/4”
Internal Depth Above Bus Board: 3 3/4”
Internal Depth Above Nothing: 4 1/4”

STRUCTURE EP-96

SMALL AND MIGHTY
A compact, double row desktop enclosure with 96hp of space availabe and plenty of power for both analog and digital modules.

STRUCTURE EP-96 FEATURES:

EP-96 Power
1.5 amps of Clean +12v Power
1.5 amps of Clean -12v Power
1 amp of Clean +5v Power
12 Keyed Eurorack Power Headers
External Power Button
Universal Earth Grounded DC Adapter

EP-96 Enclosure
Hand-Stained All Hardwood Construction (No cheap plastic here)
Two 48hp Rows
96hp total space available
Edge to Edge Rails Reduce Gaps Between Modules and the Case Side
9 Smooth Sliding Square Nuts Per Rail (Holds up to 18 modules)
Includes 40 Black (Size 4-40 1/4") Module Mounting Screws

EP-96 Dimensions
External Depth: 11 1/2”
External Height: 3 3/4”
External Width: 10 1/2”
Internal Depth Above Power Supply: 2 3/16”
Internal Depth Above Nothing: 2 3/4”Internal Depth Above Bus Board: 3 3/4”
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Post by jwm » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:10 am

i dig the size/layout of that little e-96. would make a cool little supplemental/controller case. will be interested to see what the pricing is like...

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Post by facklr » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:11 am

The STRUCTURE EP-360 will be my next case. I'm thinking it will be in the 799.00 to 999.00 range. Between that and my Doepfer LC9 and my 2 Pitts Cell[90]s...I will never need another case! hahahaha :hihi:

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Post by mdoudoroff » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:19 am

If that EP-360 proves itself, I’ll probably buy one so I can “shrink” from three Move cases to one EP-360 + Move 208.

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Post by XponentOne » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:30 am

The 360 looks good and is certainly roland proof by the power specs!

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Post by bemerritt » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:44 am

Would love to consolidate my two move 208's into the 360.

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Post by Voggg » Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:54 am

360 might be a good replacement for one of my flight cases, although if I can hold out long enough I might just build a custom case at some point. Interested to hear how people like these.

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Post by erstlaub » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:04 pm

As nice as the Pitts cases look (on the internet anyway, I've never seen one in real life), the recent price hike on the existing ones makes me think these will will be well beyond my budget.

Nice juicy specs on the power supplies though.

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Post by geh2oman » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:35 pm

I love the look of the case, and the specs, but honestly I'm a little disappointed they're not pre-packaging the case+KB-1 as an option.

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Post by DSC » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:45 pm

2016 the year of the eurocase's!
Lot's more on the horizon from multiple companies too.
Have to figure most of them started on this stuff over a year ago.
Even in that time frame the demands of the +5V rail have changed.
I hope they have expansion needs thought through too.

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Post by pieter » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:01 pm

They look very nice, but I don't think 20 nuts in 104 hp is enough.

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Post by PolarIceCaves » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:11 pm

pieter wrote:They look very nice, but I don't think 20 nuts in 104 hp is enough.
Seriously for all the cash spent on the case and power supply just fill the fucker up or provide threaded strips

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Post by CF3 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:34 pm

Glad to see manufacturers are starting to put beefy power supplies in cases. More is definitely better.

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Post by shredsickgnar » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:36 pm

Nice looking cases but it amazes me how expensive just a case can be! I guess if you want to play you got to pay though. It's good to see a few more low cost options coming out too.
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Post by Pighood » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:51 pm

Sliding nuts are a deal breaker. Pass.
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Post by facklr » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:01 pm

shredsickgnar wrote:... it amazes me how expensive just a case can be!
To be clear, I have no idea what they will cost, I was only widely guessing between 799.00 to 999.00 based on what the Move cases sold for, and was purely guessing. HP on the Move 208 was about 2.87 per. 2.87 X 360 is 1033.20 so I bet they round down to 899.00 - 999.00. The Move 104, however, was 4.31 per HP...sooo...maybe the 360 will be closer to 799.00

I guess we will just have to wait. I think with the power supply and the aesthetic it will be well worth it.

But, can we slide threaded strips into the rails? I've gotten pretty good using the Cell[90]s over the years, but I don't know if I can deal with 360 HP of sliding nuts. :bang:

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Post by tauburn » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:04 pm

should have just done it right the first time around...

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Post by mdoudoroff » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:26 pm

Agree about the threaded strips rather than sliding nuts. The sliding nuts are a PITA.

The site has MSRP prices on it:

- EP-360 $999
- EP-208 $799 (cough! wheeze!)
- EP-96 $299

I gather the extra cost is beefier power supplies and the internal steel structure?

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Post by cthonist » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:37 pm

pieter wrote:They look very nice, but I don't think 20 nuts in 104 hp is enough.
104/20 = 5.2hp per nut. Hasn't been a problem at all for my Elite case.. Unless you have tons & tons of 4hp modules or 8hp modules w/ screws on each side it's not a big deal, and even then you can just leave 1 side off like plenty of modules come already. I'm sure you'd need a busboard extension before you need extra screws

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Post by bobbcorr » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:30 pm

I think the market is much more complicated than it was even a few months ago. As I resolved on New Year's Day to not be a hater, that's all I've got to say about these.

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Post by cpcompany » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:37 pm

Look nice, but I have a Move 104 and the sliding nuts get right on my tit end. It's a definite no from me.

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Post by clusterchord » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:38 pm

i hate sliding nuts with a vengeance.


whenever i need to replace a module or rearrange things, i think i'd rather go visit a dentist and let him work on my root canal instead.

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Post by facklr » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:50 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:Agree about the threaded strips rather than sliding nuts. The sliding nuts are a PITA.

The site has MSRP prices on it:

- EP-360 $999
- EP-208 $799 (cough! wheeze!)
- EP-96 $299

I gather the extra cost is beefier power supplies and the internal steel structure?
Oh good, they updated. I was right!

For comparison (and mathematical justification!)

2 Doepfer a-100p6s are 336 HP total for 1060.00

1 Pittsburgh Structure EP-360 is, of course, 360 HP for 61.00 less. And it has a better power supply than even the new Doepfer PSU3.

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Post by Soy Sos » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:57 pm

Street price is about $50 less for the 96 and about $100 less for the 208 and 360.
These things are just expensive to design, manufacture and ship.
They look and handle great up close.
Honestly, I don't get all the passionate hate about the sliding nuts.
It's the best way to handle it for now. Maybe someone will come up
with a new solution sometime soon aside from the threaded strips.
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Post by facklr » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:58 pm

clusterchord wrote:i hate sliding nuts with a vengeance.


whenever i need to replace a module or rearrange things, i think i'd rather go visit a dentist and let him work on my root canal instead.
cpcompany wrote:Look nice, but I have a Move 104 and the sliding nuts get right on my tit end. It's a definite no from me.
mdoudoroff wrote:Agree about the threaded strips rather than sliding nuts. The sliding nuts are a PITA.
...I don't know if I can deal with 360 HP of sliding nuts. :bang:
So, yes...sliding nuts. BUT come on people, we are problem solvers, right? (no the hugest problem to begin with)

I was actually looking around for an answer on this the other day. Who supplies threaded strips (in the US, especially) that will slide into these Pittsburgh rails? I think they are M2 rails, but could someone with the knowledge pipe in? Search Function brings up a lot of old info from around 2012 for the most part. Is there anywhere that will cut 6 threaded strips to 360 HP. Is this easy to do yourself?

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