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Karenn / Blawan Modular Setup Question!
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Author Karenn / Blawan Modular Setup Question!
Spijker
I've been listening to the karenn boiler room for quite some time now, impressive stuff. But the thing I don't get is how blawan get's those hi hats to sound so good..



Judging from this picture he uses the TipTop Audio Hats 909 (bottom right), which goes into another module through the green patchcable. For some reason they don't sound like the regular old 909 hats, a bit more spiced up if you know what I mean.
There might be a simple answer to this (might be just distortion?), but I can't seem to wrap my head around it for some reason.

The sort of hi hats i'm talking about are the ones at 3:41 and 5:07 etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVsfzprO7zs

Any reply is much appreciated thumbs up
Dcramer
I can't tell what that mystery module is hmmm..... but check out this thread:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153242
biftek
Kinda looks like a CG Delay, but it looks like there could be a lot more in the signal chain, hard to track after that.

Actually upon closer inspection, looks like it goes into some kind of mixer and then into the Verbos ATC, which could proved that subtle distortion and grit.

http://www.cg-products.de/module/delay1022/
biftek
derp
Spijker
Thanks for explaining and identifying the module, brings me somewhat closer to understanding those drums.

Btw: topic about wavefolding is very interesting, definitely something to look further into..
leyy
Might be coming from the tempest ? It has 909 samples and they might be layered with some of the synth engines.
Parcell
Sounds like some kind of delay w/ distortion slowly being introduced..
Spijker
leyy wrote:
Might be coming from the tempest ? It has 909 samples and they might be layered with some of the synth engines.


Nah it's definitely comming from the modular, as the analog solutions europa is being used as a sequencer for drums + notes
Themaybemachine
https://www.fabriclondon.com/blog/view/studio-guide-blawan-london-modu lar-alliance-discuss-favourite-modular-units

Maybe this might help the ultrafold or Strakal Brulu 2 for distortion ?
He does sound amazing.
HowMuchYaBench
I'm not really hearing anything that I'd consider that special, but I do notice that when the kick drops out after the 5min example you mentioned, the hats do clean up some. Maybe partially due from pushing the master into the red?
GZHN27
karenn is the whole reason I started getting into modular.. But still can't figure out how they produce such FAT drumkicks!! moduler? tempest??
mt3


One of the few BoilerRooms I enjoy.
random:user
This should be an interesting read for you guys, might even answer your question:

https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/2074

BTW this is my first post. Just finished my doepfer diy case. Its still empty.
Lets see how quickly this will escalate
hyper
Val
posted this in another thread :

Val wrote:
His live rig is always changing I think.
I often spot Circadian Rythms, jomox kick, ER-101, E560 Deflector Shield, something metasonix, maths, braids, optomix, strakal brulu, verbos, maybe DPO, not sure ... these are modules he uses regurlarly for live sets
Cwejman QMMF is among his favorites modules

Not very unusual techno setup I think, except for the cwejman or ER-101, cwejman always being a bit rare. it's in the patching, writing, blawan has always been some kind of rhythm genius


Here's a little documentary about modular where they managed to get into his studio (he's not the kind of guy who talk much about his gear). You can see he has a massive monster case + monster base full of modules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ3dQd0xJUk


he always has the deflector shield in his live rig

fat kick drums are coming from the jomox modbase09
Mosiej
seems like he uses the envelop follower of the kick drum to trigger other things as well?
meursault
Spijker wrote:
leyy wrote:
Might be coming from the tempest ? It has 909 samples and they might be layered with some of the synth engines.


Nah it's definitely comming from the modular, as the analog solutions europa is being used as a sequencer for drums + notes


yeah, I think he uses some percussion elements in modulars. or at least I kind of recall him saying that. but not 100% sure!
fireflycosmos
GZHN27 wrote:
karenn is the whole reason I started getting into modular.. But still can't figure out how they produce such FAT drumkicks!! moduler? tempest??


NIIO iotine core might be the trick for this. They did use it a lot for the Karenn stuff. cool

https://www.niioanalog.com/iotine-core
OTHK
GZHN27 wrote:
karenn is the whole reason I started getting into modular.. But still can't figure out how they produce such FAT drumkicks!! moduler? tempest??


Jomox ModBase09 + Analog Heat <3 and you have Karenn sound smile
kwaidan
While I have only had a chance to listen to the video on an iPad, it sounds like a TipTop Hats. Of course, with the crap speakers, I could be off.

The TipTop Hats have a wider range of sounds than the original 909, and they can sound quite nasty. The module also has FM and Accent inputs, so you can modulate it.
Sanys
i think i hear a lot of plonk in later blawan production. could be wrong tho
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