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Sequencers for D-1000 or D-2000
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EPTC
Carl Hungus wrote:
Does anyone know of a good way to trigger the D1000 with drum pads?


Best way would probably be an envelope generator/instrument interface. Try triggering the drum pads into another device, preferably one with a high hat, so the trigger is short. You could probably further attenuate that with EQ by making the the hat brighter (or spikier sounding) - Then put that outgoing audio of that device through an Envelope Generator - best use, if you have a 5U setup, would be the Dotcom Q118 Instrument Interface - https://synthesizers.com/q118.html

There, you can try the gate output, or the trigger, or the envelope, to see what triggers best - also can amplify the signal up to 100 or 1000. Note this would only be for one individual drum voice, or the master clock pattern.

I've used the Q118 to trigger the D2000 with audio of all sorts of drum sequencers and it works great like this.
Carl Hungus
Thanks for the reply. Regrettably I’m not on 5U, it’s some euro mostly in the form of Metasonix euro, and a couple utilities.
I’ll keep it in mind that I may need an amplifier to boost the piezio, thanks.
Guess it’s still the 119 as the cheapest.

Weird, really thought there’d be a module for this by now..
EPTC
Carl Hungus wrote:

Guess it’s still the 119 as the cheapest.


Whoops, sorry - Completely overlooked you mentioning that Doepfer envelope follower in your original post! Pardon most of my reply there.

Yeah, you know another way might be just taking the drum output directly into the cv input of a D1000 voice. (I believe it accepts audio as cv) Who knows, might work/filter perfectly.

Cheers, E
HypatiasAngst
To the original post, don't mean to side step the drum triggers.

This is using the Mutable Instruments Grids. works well for me!

https://soundcloud.com/anatoliasfinest/album-d1000-track3-101916-1217- am

hooray for soundcloud changes
metasonix
HypatiasAngst wrote:
https://soundcloud.com/anatoliasfinest/album-d1000-track3-101916-1217- am

What stupid techno SHOULD sound like--mock the ravers!
xthrasherx
Just from my very limited testing so far:

Iron Ether Pithoprakta- Works well in trigger mode.

Euclidean Circles- *edit* User error. Works fine on the 1ms setting.

Expert Sleepers FH-1 (Using the Octatrack as a sequencer)- Still figuring out the best settings, but they seem to be playing nice now.

Here is a clip w/ the D200 sequenced by Euclidean Circles and a TM3+TM2 drone.

[s]http://soundcloud.com/weston-woodward/d2000-test[/s]

Under midi control w/ the FH-1:
luchog
xthrasherx wrote:
Here is a clip w/ the D200 sequenced by Euclidean Circles and a TM3+TM2 drone.


Quite enjoyed that, would love to hear something like it fleshed out a bit more, adding some more layers, a la Download or DVOA.
xthrasherx
luchog wrote:
xthrasherx wrote:
Here is a clip w/ the D200 sequenced by Euclidean Circles and a TM3+TM2 drone.


Quite enjoyed that, would love to hear something like it fleshed out a bit more, adding some more layers, a la Download or DVOA.


Thanks. I definitely intend to work with it (or something similar) more, especially since that was captured live and with little time on the D-2000 or Euclidean Circles. I've been very impressed with the sonic ranges of the D-2000 though. SO much still to explore w00t
ritchiedrums
KORG SQ-1 works,
but you need to find the sweet spot with the gate length
Guinness ftw!
darmklacht@gmail.com
how about the ladik midi to trigger converter with a volca beats?
metasonix
darmklacht@gmail.com wrote:
how about the ladik midi to trigger converter with a volca beats?

Ladik says "Triggers are 500us long." That's kind of short but should be okay.
sillyquestions?
Does anyone know if the beatstep pro works well with d-2000? Im so close to having the cash for it and already got the BSP.
xthrasherx
sillyquestions? wrote:
Does anyone know if the beatstep pro works well with d-2000? Im so close to having the cash for it and already got the BSP.


The BSP works well, but you need to play around with gate/trigger lengths a bit to get the most out of it. I’ve tried a few sequencers at this point, but I prefer the BSP for the xox style sequencing on the D2000 overall.
sillyquestions?
xthrasherx wrote:
sillyquestions? wrote:
Does anyone know if the beatstep pro works well with d-2000? Im so close to having the cash for it and already got the BSP.


The BSP works well, but you need to play around with gate/trigger lengths a bit to get the most out of it. I’ve tried a few sequencers at this point, but I prefer the BSP for the xox style sequencing on the D2000 overall.


Cool man, thanks very much. I guess it all the right voltage for the d2000?

I fucking love how this thing moves/sounds.. genuinely think he had me in mine when building it.....
sillyquestions?
xthrasherx wrote:
sillyquestions? wrote:
Does anyone know if the beatstep pro works well with d-2000? Im so close to having the cash for it and already got the BSP.


The BSP works well, but you need to play around with gate/trigger lengths a bit to get the most out of it. I’ve tried a few sequencers at this point, but I prefer the BSP for the xox style sequencing on the D2000 overall.


Oh yeah also, see for every voice? Does it have an individual out that I could plug into my desk and EQ/process?

Cheers
Sallad
Yes, the D-2000 has five individual outs for all separate sounds and one main out that runs through an additional tube. One thing I like to do is to use the individual outs and then add the main out to the mix as well.
sillyquestions?
Im back again!! hihi help

Been using the BSP lately for my sequencing for the D2000. Seems to be working fine.

I guess my question is.. Im looking to try out pamelas new workout.. But before I commit I was just wondering how different it could actually be to using my BSP? As in, is it less work to get a 'good' rhythm? Whats peoples views on pams? I know it was reccomended in the manual for working well but when saying that what does it actually mean? No double triggering? If using the pitched drums on the BSP at the moment and I go past 5 on 'Gate Length' it seems to double trigger. Sometimes it actually sounds cool.

Yeah sorry, blabbing on. Just wondering what peoples thoughts are. cheers.
electronicpoison
hai my first post
does anybody know if the moog mp 201 works well with the d2000 for triggering the gates? i get the d2000 next day and i think about selling the moog mp 201 but when they fit together i let it
B.d.Frieder
metasonix
electronicpoison wrote:
does anybody know if the moog mp 201 works well with the d2000 for triggering the gates?

You are talking about this?
https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/tech/moog-mp-201-multi-pedal-197863

It won't work at all. Not intended as a pulse sequencer. Sorry. I would recommend a Triggerman module installed in the D-2000 panel, or something external like a Beatstep Pro.
electronicpoison
hai thanks for answer iwill look for beatsteppro
here a picture of my d2000 really nice version(a little bit off topic ) but applause
electronicpoison
I m still looking for a sequencer.today i see from bastl :state of the art MIDI interface 1983.
do you think it will suite
is not the real sequencer put over the midi port....
xthrasherx
electronicpoison wrote:
I m still looking for a sequencer.today i see from bastl :state of the art MIDI interface 1983.
do you think it will suite
is not the real sequencer put over the midi port....


It may be able to, but I haven’t looked at the Bastl 1983 in depth. The key thing with any sequencer for the D2000 is the trigger length / pulse width needs to be relatively short to avoid a “double trigger.” When I was exploring midi to cv solutions I found the Expert Sleepers FH-1 was suitable but on the other hand my anaX expansion for my Gotharman Little Deformer 2 (provides 4 trigger outs) has not.

The Beatstep Pro is hard to beat for the price and is very customizable with trigger / gate lengths which allows for some nice variations on the gated noise / “cymbals”

That said I’ll be trying out the new WMD Metron trigger sequencer when it ships later this month.
electronicpoison
thanks for this answer. i buy the beatsteppro.
today i play the first time with me new d2000 and put it together with my generator from analogue solutions and it run quite good. do you think it is a good pair. if i right you could not change the gate length on the generator.
you notice i;m a beginner.
xthrasherx
Finally got around to testing out the D2000 with the new WMD Metron trigger / gate sequencer. The WMD offers a lot of ability to customize the trigger lengths, but the default setting works just fine (default is 1/12 of the clock). Lengths can be set to 1ms, 2ms, 4ms, 8ms, 1/36th clock, 1/12th clock.

Quick video with crappy filter to obscure everything because Metasonix!
ExtrasensoryPerception
Bummer...

I came here to search for this exact piece of information... would have loved to add cv control aside from triggers with a faceplate mounted module.

EPTC wrote:
Just an FYI - Pamela's New Workout is incredible with the D2000 but doesn't fit in the cut out slot on the case. At least on my copy, there's a small micro-connector on the side of the new Pam's that juts out just enough from the side to make it not possible to place inside the D2000. This might be fixed by resoldering the microconnector so it's not jutting out, but not sure.

I personally have Mutable Peaks in the D2000 slot as two extra drum voices and envelope for D2000 pitched drums, works great - with Pam's New Workout right next to it in a boat. But wanted to mention old Pam's Workout fits perfectly inside the D2000 but that new one (ALM-017) seems a little wide. - Make your "Pam's needs to workout more" jokes! But if others were wondering, that's what's happening with my copy.
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