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267e owners, can you check something please? Bug?
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Author 267e owners, can you check something please? Bug?
missingtwin
I was working on a piece where the randomization of certain CVs
was getting progressively more dramatic.

I noticed then that the pot controlling the mix from "external c.v."
fully counter clockwise, to "random" clockwise, is not saving
the setting on the preset.

It happens for both Random A and Random B sections - but just
that pot.

If I save the preset and the edit light goes out on the preset
manager, moving this pot does trigger the preset manager that a
change in status has occurred and the light starts blinking, but still - it won't remember - it acts just like a white, non-preset pot on the 200e.

Perhaps this one was always this way and i just never noticed
until now.

Can someone please check their 267e and see if that pot saves settings
on the preset manager? maybe it's a bug or something.
TY!!!

Rockin' Banana! Guinness ftw! w00t SlayerBadger!
Knarzwaltz
Mine does the same but with everything...preset saves but don't recall. Tried to update it with the usb card but doesn't work.. its kinda bricked but still working fine d'oh! guess i have to debug with silas?

A little embarrassing that i didn't notice at first .... Dead Banana
missingtwin
thanks knarzwaltz

can you check and see if the preset manager thinks
the pots are changing?

meaning, if you save a preset and the "not stored" light
on the preset manager goes out

what happens when you make a change on the module?
does the "not stored" light start to blink?

that's what mine does, although it doesn't actually save the settings.

I did reload the firmware via the USB card but it didn't work.

I put in an email to BEMI, I hope they get back to me soon.

I will let you know what they say Knarzwaltz
missingtwin
Also, speaking to your situation knarzwaltz, I could have
SWORN this module was saving presets before.

maybe yours was also working, just everything conked out where
mine is just two of the pots.
mIgmOd
My presets seem to be working fine, although there are some glitches here and there. Nothing chronic. BTW, my experience is that Alex at BEMI respond best via phone calls, and not so much with emails. He actually RETURNED my call into him the other day. The # is on their site. Good luck!
Knarzwaltz
missingtwin wrote:
thanks knarzwaltz

can you check and see if the preset manager thinks
the pots are changing?

meaning, if you save a preset and the "not stored" light
on the preset manager goes out

what happens when you make a change on the module?
does the "not stored" light start to blink?

that's what mine does, although it doesn't actually save the settings.


Mine behaves just like yours but with all knobs (everything). If it worked ok at first I don't know.. possibly since I didn't notice it... and that would make me feel a little less lika a idiot :-D

Quote:

I did reload the firmware via the USB card but it didn't work.


Nope that doesn't seem to work at all... tried to change to another boat..but nothing. Its a living brick sort of.. confused

My friend has a Silab and is going to try to "unbrick" or update it....

Quote:

I put in an email to BEMI, I hope they get back to me soon.

I will let you know what they say Knarzwaltz


great :-)
Knarzwaltz
Have you updated the USB utility card to 1.66(and 225e?) ? Maybe it doesn't make any difference? But could be worth a try..
missingtwin
I think the 267e doesn't use the silabs.
It uses the atmel.

I sure would like to get this thing working.
I had a pretty cool patch going there Dead Banana

Hey I actually did call BEMI on the phone.
they answered but couldn't help me at the time.
Still waiting for a call/email
Knarzwaltz
Nothing?
missingtwin
well, all I can say is Alex is the man!
he's setting setting it right for me.
go Alex!
Rockin' Banana!
Knarzwaltz
Cool... but could he tell what the problem is/was... or is it just send to BEMI?
missingtwin
he couldn't tell what the problem was over the phone.
so it's getting repaired/replaced.
it was quite fun to speaking to Alex, kind and
positive dude...
it really seemed he is crazy busy though.
missingtwin
double double post post
missingtwin
Alex sent me a brand new 267e module
and had me ship mine in the same box back
To him.

great customer service!

so this new one does the same thing.

the pot that controls "ext. cv" to "random"
in both Random A and Random B sections
of the module does not save to the preset
manager.

can someone please check if that pot works
on your system. maybe I have some other issue
although I can't think of what it would be.
going to try reloading firmware of preset manager next.

just pointing out to help squash the bug if it is a bug.
Knarzwaltz
It seems I have the same problem with the skew knob on the 266e .... maybe its something in the boat?? .. I did change place and connector but not boat...I will check it out as soon as I recorded the patch I have right now...
rayce
I have the same behavior as you.

The 225e preset manager will register that changes have been made on the module's ext CV to random pots when I turn those knobs
When I hit save, change the knob settings, and then hit recall they do not recall the previously saved knob setting.

The other knobs on the module do react properly to save and recall commands.

Sounds like a bug in the 267e.
missingtwin
I think we found a 267e bug.
Knarzwaltz
missingtwin wrote:
I think we found a 267e bug.


Have you tried to use the new 267e with the USB card?
missingtwin
yes. I tried reloading the current 267e firmware
via usb card, but those two pots are not
preset saved.
Knarzwaltz
But it loaded the firmware? This I can't do.
Also thinking if it could be something in the 225e firmware?
missingtwin
knarzwaltz. you're going to need to get the atmel debugger,
erase then restart that module. either that or you will have to
send back to BEMI

however, with a little help from my wiggler friends I was able to
break the curse on my 259e with the silabs debugger
this very day. maybe you should give it a try.

I heard from Charles at bemi and the preset manager
vs. 267e issue described above is indeed a genuine bug.

I shall add it to the stickied bug list.
missingtwin
weinglas
Nice pic! And I can confirm: Mine does this too ...
darrenji
Try this beta firmware and see if it fixes the problem.
missingtwin
thanks darrenji!
it works!

loaded the firmware via USB card and the two pots save presets now.

The only thing you may be interested in is I had to restart
the preset manager for the new firmware to take hold in the
267e. In all of the other firmware update/reloads the preset manager
starts on its own after the update.

three cheers for darrenji and the blue knobs!

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