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Today my small discovery was...

Post by Snail » Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:34 am

[I realized that as a newcomer to Eurorack, I am discovering new things each day as I patch. Most I would never think to post here, because I assume anyone with more experience has already discovered these things or would think it too obvious. But then, I was thinking maybe others are discovering new things and not posting them for the same reason! I'd want to learn them. So I thought maybe of starting a thread like this to see if it has any traction.]

Today my small discoveries were:

...The effect send/return of the Rosie is a perfect place to put Clouds! Sounds much better there for what I want to do with it than just using the blend knob on Clouds.

...If you save a set of pitches in one of the Rene's save slots, it continually sends those out through the QCV and this frees up all the pitch knobs for retuning to send out via CV to a second oscillator. Tuning some in unison and some in harmony creates a really nice two voice polyphony. Then if you turn some of the gates off and have X gate control one voice, and Y gate control the other, you basically have the Rene sequencing two voices that will play nicely together. I'm sure anyone with a Rene knows this (except me, since I have trouble reading manuals), but this was lots of fun and was a neat little discovery for me!

If you've made a discovery (however big or small) today or in the past few days, please share!

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Post by SB-SIX » Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:59 am

Discovered that clouds delay modes can be clock synced when feeding a clock into trig input. With parasites the position knob acts as a clock divider

Discovered that tides has a sub-oscillator output

Discovered that peaks has a super cool trig delay with retriggers. Can't even find a dedicated module that can do that

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Post by DonKartofflo » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:19 am

SB-SIX wrote: Discovered that tides has a sub-oscillator output
how so?


discovered that rings can be a trashy spring reverb/delay thingy :hyper:
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Post by dkbax » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:21 am

A Eurorack system is never finished no matter how hard you try to convince yourself.
No, but seriously

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Post by infovore » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:05 am

Audio-rate sample/hold heavily attenuated into an FM input for a delightful "fizzle" on top of a sound. I might make a short video about this.

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Post by SB-SIX » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:12 am

DonKartofflo wrote:
SB-SIX wrote: Discovered that tides has a sub-oscillator output
how so?
The low output is a -1 octave square wave in oscillator mode.

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Post by MossGarden » Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:41 am

SB-SIX wrote:
DonKartofflo wrote:
SB-SIX wrote: Discovered that tides has a sub-oscillator output
how so?
The low output is a -1 octave square wave in oscillator mode.
I believe you need to have the Parasites firmware installed in order for this to become available, I could be wrong. :goo:

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Post by tylrprtr » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:00 am

infovore wrote:Audio-rate sample/hold heavily attenuated into an FM input for a delightful "fizzle" on top of a sound. I might make a short video about this.
I'm having trouble mentally hearing this, so please do post a video!

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Post by tylrprtr » Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:06 am

SB-SIX wrote:Discovered that clouds delay modes can be clock synced when feeding a clock into trig input. With parasites the position knob acts as a clock divider
I could be wrong, but I think this is only with the Parasites alt firmware installed. I think this was one of the improvements that the firmware adds.

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Post by infovore » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:24 am

MossGarden wrote:
SB-SIX wrote:
DonKartofflo wrote:
SB-SIX wrote: Discovered that tides has a sub-oscillator output
how so?
The low output is a -1 octave square wave in oscillator mode.
I believe you need to have the Parasites firmware installed in order for this to become available, I could be wrong. :goo:
Nah, that might just work: "LOW" is triggering at the end of every cycle, right? At audio rate, that's also going to be audible.

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Post by bradfromraleigh » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:46 am

The power of a sequential switch - especially with something open ended like a PP + Brains combo. I routed two rows of the PP to the first to switch slots and the random stepped out from my wogglebug to the third slot. Used the top Gate output on PP to trigger the switch. Output of everything to a quantizer and then just built different rhythms by changing the gate timing and also patching resets to Brains. Very simple and basic stuff but literally spent an hour just messing with it.

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Post by TheRosskonian » Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:32 am

Great thread idea!

Mine isn’t very specific, but I thought I’d share:
I’ve learned that how I leave my system patched directly influences my next session sitting down with it:
If I leave a patch that I like, I’m more motivated to re-patch and tweak it, but not change it too drastically.
If I leave a patch that I hate, I have to be even more motivated to sit down as the first thing I do is un-patch everything.
I have yet to try leaving the system completely un-patched, as that usually inspires me to just keep going and create a new patch.

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Post by XponentOne » Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:00 am

A pen and little post-it notes are good for remembering maths cycle settings (or anything else that doesnt persist on powerdown) for the next session - cheap, hyper useful - have em on your desk :tu:

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Post by Snail » Tue Jun 07, 2016 12:12 am

Thanks for sharing... some interesting stuff already! I am looking forward to trying out some of these tricks (including making notes on Maths!).

Today my discovery was that playing with modulars has changed the way I approach non-modular synths. Sat down with my Sub 37 today and what came out was distinctly more experimental and sound-exploration like than anything I would have done before getting started on modular.

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Post by Dogma » Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:29 am

Cameras for "special" patches and video is better
im not organised enough but colour coding CV and audio or left and right or whatever schema works for you is pretty handy
look up!

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Post by Zube » Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:49 am

XponentOne wrote:A pen and little post-it notes are good for remembering maths cycle settings (or anything else that doesnt persist on powerdown) for the next session - cheap, hyper useful - have em on your desk :tu:
+1 to this. I have a little notebook I use to remember cool patches. I practice re-patching these patches from scratch, kind of like how you'd practice a song on piano, for example. It helps me learn, and let's me refine ideas. They're never *exactly* the same of course but it helps me find a balance between composition and improvisation, and it feels really good to be slowly completing tracks!

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Post by geh2oman » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:11 am

Kind of like using a machete to chop onions, but I really like to get percussion out of Clouds by freezing a sound and then running an attenuated gate into the Density jack, then messing around with the Density knob and the offset of the gate to get differently shaped swashes.

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Post by guestt » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:24 am

Zube wrote:
XponentOne wrote:A pen and little post-it notes are good for remembering maths cycle settings (or anything else that doesnt persist on powerdown) for the next session - cheap, hyper useful - have em on your desk :tu:
+1 to this. I have a little notebook I use to remember cool patches. I practice re-patching these patches from scratch, kind of like how you'd practice a song on piano, for example. It helps me learn, and let's me refine ideas. They're never *exactly* the same of course but it helps me find a balance between composition and improvisation, and it feels really good to be slowly completing tracks!
I can see how this works for some folks, but I trust this to memory, if a patch is good it will come up again naturally... I find any kind of attempt to tame/order the process kills my vibe! I learned, for me, it has to be in the moment, it has to be live!

I totally agree with the idea that patching on the fly is like practicing playing any other instrument :tu:

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Post by vytis » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:28 am

Today my small discovery was...
Sending a couple of outputs from a clock divider into a logic module. Three (or more) logic outs into a mixer results in some amazing musical patterns! Sending through a quantizer before hitting 1V/Oct and I feel like I don't need any other sequencer! :woah:
Nice thread!

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Post by Prescient Punk » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:41 am

I woke this morning and looked at the familiar pattern of patch cables plugged into my synth and realized, even in modular it is easy to get in a rut. :despair:

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Post by Hovercraft » Tue Jun 07, 2016 9:27 am

Still new at modular, so I'm discovering something every day. The latest thing is realizing that a lot of gate inputs are sensitive to the shape, length and voltage of the gate. Running my gates through channel 1 or 4 of MATHS to set skew and length and using channel 2 or 3 to offset, has given me a lot more control.

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Post by Snail » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:43 pm

My small discovery yesterday (which felt like a huge discovery) was using filters in self-oscillation as sound sources -- something I never knew you could do, since you can't do it on a non-modular synth.

Had great fun patching filters in to FM oscillators... Got some really nasty sounds! So many combinations of sounds!

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Post by noisejockey » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:15 pm

Today I clued into the magic of FMing two oscillators in soft sync. Pitch stability for days. Growly. RAWR.

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Post by flo » Thu Jun 09, 2016 2:14 am

Snail wrote:My small discovery yesterday (which felt like a huge discovery) was using filters in self-oscillation as sound sources -- something I never knew you could do, since you can't do it on a non-modular synth.
Wut? :hmm: :despair:

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Post by Snail » Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:25 am

Flo, I didn't mean you can't get a filter to self-oscillate on a non-modular, only that typically you can't remove the oscillator from the signal path and still get sound from just the filter self-oscillating because of the way the synths are typically routed. Am I wrong? As a result, I never realized a filter could be used by itself as a sound source.

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