Lyra-8 'Organismic' ambient synthesizer

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Lyra-8 'Organismic' ambient synthesizer

Post by xclark » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:26 pm

a poster on Reddit posted this in /r/synthesizers and says the designer (named below) will be producing and selling these synths. pretty dang cool.

from the YouTube description: 'Unique analog organismic synthesither for soundscapes, FXs, pads, complex textures. The term "Organismic” means that all its modules are intertwined by many nonlinear connections and work in an entangled state, modifying each other, much like organs and systems in live beings. That allows for getting complex, diverse, fluid textures from a relatively simple construction.
Created by SOMA laboratory
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Post by abandonist » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:23 pm

THat's pretty rad!

As always, it just comes down to price... :(

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Post by REwire » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:38 pm

It sounds amazing!

Though: no control other than the little touch keys? Track even pitched? And mono output with all those delays, reverb, etc?

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Post by chvad » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:43 pm

def looks real cool

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Post by stikygum » Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:23 am

Bad Ass! But I agree that some control like midi or CV would be nice.

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Post by pownie » Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:46 am

Sounds really sweet. Price is app. €500 if anyone's interested.

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Post by MATSmile » Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:58 pm

pownie wrote:Sounds really sweet. Price is app. €500 if anyone's interested.
A bit on the expensive side

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Post by REwire » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:53 pm

MATSmile wrote:
pownie wrote:Sounds really sweet. Price is app. €500 if anyone's interested.
A bit on the expensive side
I disagree. Analog oscs with all that modulation and effects. It sounds like something a tube synth would do but can't even get near.

I want one ten years ago! Don'y care if it doen't have Cv or midi it's better than any noisemaking device I've ever heard.

Come in at prob $700 after import.

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Post by digitalganesha » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:40 pm

REwire wrote:
MATSmile wrote:
pownie wrote:Sounds really sweet. Price is app. €500 if anyone's interested.
A bit on the expensive side
I disagree. Analog oscs with all that modulation and effects. It sounds like something a tube synth would do but can't even get near.

I want one ten years ago! Don'y care if it doen't have Cv or midi it's better than any noisemaking device I've ever heard.

Come in at prob $700 after import.
Completely agreed.... I was expecting this to be WAY more. Now I am even more excited! :yay:

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Post by autopoiesis » Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:45 pm

"intended for creating textures, soundscapes and atmospheres for a post-humanity era"

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"this allows to avoid that primitive sinusoidal vibe you hear when only one LFO is used on all the voices"

:yay:

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Post by xclark » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:46 pm

digitalganesha wrote:Come in at prob $700 after import.
:sadbanana: Whoa, if this is true, I'm getting in line for one!

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Post by REwire » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:26 pm

I've been in contact with Vlad the maker. He's got many technical things to work out including need to making metal enclosures and then work out final price and ability to produce himself and sell direct.

He said it'd hopefully be $550 and there will def be a wait so get on his list if you want one.

I hear many sounds in that long demo that remind me of synths I sold like the Macbeth M5, EMS Synthi and Metasonix Wretch Machine.

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Post by bmot » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:34 pm

:love: This is the first thing I've seen in a while which has made me want to insta-buy. I love little desktop machines and love that it seems so deep and mysterious. if it was for sale now, I'd already have ordered. But as its not, I contacted the email address posted above and asked to pre-order. Will update you all here if I can find out anything not already posted.

Thanks for sharing this.

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Post by REwire » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:42 pm

Info from Vlad:

Main spec:

I\O:

CV IN modulation for voices with adjusting depth for each of four groups
CV IN for delay time modulation
TRIGGER IN for triggering of voices output to FX part.
MONO OUT balanced low impendance, ready for long cable transmission.
PHONES OUT

Main units:

- 8 organ type tunable voices, shaped by individual envelop generator, driven by an individual sensor. Voices devided on four groups, each has wave shape knob, adjusting it from triangle to square, release switch (fast - slow), modulation\FM depth knob and modulation\FM source switch.

- Each of 8 voices can works as FM operator, FM algorythm can be dialed in by four three-way switches, allowing for 81 variations of FM synthesis.

- There are two common modes of FM here, selected by an additional switch. The first mode divides eight voices into two groups and feeds each of the two back to themselves, and the second one unites all the voices into one structure. All of that makes for over a hundred of FM algorhythms.

- Each voice has its own LFO tuned to a dedicated frequency. That allows to avoid that primitive sinusoidal vibe you hear when only one LFO is used on all the voices. The LFO can be switched off.

- Four groups of voices folded into two parts (4 voices each), each part has a HOLD knob for a continuous sound, and a TRANSPOSE knob to set the pitch or the key for the whole group.

- HYPER LFO unit, consists of two separately tuned low-frequency oscillators from which a complex waveform is synthesized. There are four synthesis structures here, selected from by two switches.

- MOD DELAY unit has two independent delay channels with individual time adjustment and an option of modulation by one of HYPER LFO's waveforms. The delay time can also be modulated by the delay's own output signal, which enables many effects, including a mode where the delay section itself works like a synth.

- DISTORTION section has DRIVE and MIX knobs. The MIX control sets the balance between pure and distorted sound.

In the full mode LYRA is analog FM synth with direct control of each operator feedbacked with two-channels delay, all it can be modulated by complex LFO + distortion. Final output signal can appear as an additional FM operator, close LYRA to one complex structure.


The story and philosophy:

I spent years explore brain and nervous systems, one of my interest was how the such simple structure like a brain of smal insects can produce such complex behavior, which we still can't imitate by our powerful computers.
One of the answers i have found - brain is ANALOG system with great part of noise, chaotic process, highly nonlinear. It can't be modeled by contemporary digital machines, cause some important is missed.

Later i decided apply this descoverys in a synths - my other love.
The secret of LYRA is not in modules itself - all of them long been known , but in the way how them connected and interact whith each other. The circuit of LYRA is not linear structure like classical subtractive synth, all of the modules depend of each other by many ways, often nonlinear.
LYRA is a structure which responds to your touch, menders under your finger like a strange animal. That is why i called it 'organismic synth"

Next part was exploration of traditional instruments, like violin, and the question - why an artist can spent whole life with piece of wood with four metal wires + stick with horse tail, but be bored with a versatile synth having tons of controllers and features after a couple of months. The answer is - the best instruments have shortest connection between artist body and "tone generator" which gives him maximum of control and possibility to express his soul motion. That is why violin is "Live instrument".

Insight was "synths will acts the same if we restore missing connection" In wiev of this theory the right was the very first synth - Theremin, which is actualy just one generator with just one waveshape but wery attached to artist body motion !
And take a look - Theremin is may be the only one synth, that did't change its structure despite of huge progress of radio engenering ! It says - the principle was exactly right.

I rolled back synths circuitry history and picked archaic solutions that gives to artist maximally raw control with maximum affecting of sound. And made ready-to-play instrument, where any position of the controllers is good soundscape. Direct non tempered control of voices pitch allows to go beyond the chromatic scale and create unique modes, working with quarter tones, just intination etc. unleash your personal hearing of music intervals.

That's the way LYRA-8 comes )

All the best
Vlad Kreimer
SOMA Lab .

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Post by Pase » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:30 pm

Very interesting device, lookin' forward when it will be realized :tu:

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Post by Madrayken » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:17 pm

Day 1 purchase for me. Most interesting thing I've seen for years.
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Post by evs » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:51 pm

Wow. This is just amazing!

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Post by adnauseam » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:11 pm

Sounds like a neat device for some scary movie soundtracks.

Loving the cross modulation and distortion going on.

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Post by Jonatilj » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:26 pm

Very expressive and versatile and the most interesting noise/drone synth since Blippoo Box! I want it!

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Post by de_raaf » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:19 pm

just found out about today, damn blow away, i'm a sucker for that sort of atmosphere, sounds very russian to me, the sort of atmosphere you find a lot back in older russian electronic records
glad to read prices pretty very ok
mailed vlad a bit earlier for info

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Post by REwire » Fri Aug 19, 2016 12:20 pm

Vlad seems to be making the Lyra-4 first. Sounds good but not atmospheric like the Lyra-8. From his email:

I am glad to announce the release of SOMA's first ready product - the LYRA-4.
The manual and some photos of the synth are in the attachment.
And here is a demo that shows the results of CV pitch modulation of the voices:



It will also give you an idea of how the LYRA-8 will act when driven by CV, because the system is the same.

When I was working on final production one of my main aims was to ensure high reliability of the synth.
The Lyra has a solid aluminium enclosure with scratch-proof lettering. Despite of a lot of wiring, all controls and connectors are attached directly to the enclosure surface, and not to the PCB. All pots have metal shafts, and there are no SMD components on the PCB. Exactly how it was done in my lovely analog synths from 60s-70s :). So I am confident that it will not break from rough live tour conditions and will ensure a long and happy life of this synth.

The final price is 350 euros or USD equivalent.

All the best
Vlad Kreimer
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Post by estin » Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:12 pm

I'm in for one :goo:

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Post by thresholdpeople » Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:16 pm

Wow this looks really awesome. According to the manual Vlad sent over, each of the voices has two touch nodes, one CV into the VCA and the other the output from the envelope.They're meaning to be passively mixed via your finger.

I'm wondering about cross-patching, or passively mixing, or using external CV in instead..

Really exciting. Reminds me of Ciat Lonbarde instruments a bit, but perhaps more dial-in-able.

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Post by 101010oxo » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:31 am

thresholdpeople wrote:[...]According to the manual Vlad sent over[..]
Wait, what? The guy already has the manual done? :eek:
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