Simple 8-pad MIDI trigger device?

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Simple 8-pad MIDI trigger device?

Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:50 pm

I'm looking for one with 8 pads only, in a small footprint...

Alesis has one, but the footprint is large, and the price tag is large

any other options?

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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:21 pm

Can it be USB only?
Looking for on/off cc controllers, or should it send note messages?

Other than large octopad drum controller things, most I can think of have 16 pads, many are USB only these days.

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Post by scozbor » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:22 pm

not sure if it's released yet - korg nano

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:24 pm

it has to have MIDI out, and has to be powerable by its own power adapter (not USB )

it has to send note on messages when the pads are hit, not CC

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:26 pm

ooh, thanks scozbor, Korg nanoPAD may have a few extra pads and the X/Y thing that wouldn't be usuable in my application, however the footprint is EXACTLY RIGHT, enough so that I could overlook these 'extras'

any idea if it has a MIDI output, and on pricing?

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:28 pm

holy crap, it's only like $60 :eek:

that's just crazy awesome

on the other hand, it looks like it's USB-only, for both power and signal output. meh.

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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:49 pm

The Korg nanos will only be USB. Korg padkontrol's only USB, too.

I'm drawing a complete blank on anything that might fit your description. Akai's MPD series would maybe be the closest, and they have 16 pads plus a few sliders.

Alternately, there's the Faderfox LX2, which has a lot of buttons, but would otherwise do the job. The faderfox boxes are pretty small, too.

That Flame Six-in-a-Row might be an option if/when it comes out.

http://flame.fortschritt-musik.de/image ... w_big2.jpg

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:52 pm

i think the alesis control pad looks like the best option so far.... crazy big though, i wish there was a small one

and I wonder how well it does with hand and finger taps, or if it's more intended to be hit with sticks


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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:57 pm

It's meant for sticks. You could use hands, but it might drive you crazy.

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:05 pm

yeah, that's what i figured :(

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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:19 pm

Something like the MPD24 is about half the size of that, why only 8 pads wanted?

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Post by dkcg » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:22 pm

Not super cheap, but kinda cool. I like it's older brother with the infrared sensor and ribbons too.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... jectId=765

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:22 pm

shamann wrote:Something like the MPD24 is about half the size of that, why only 8 pads wanted?
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that's why, I have one of these on my way, and a handful of drum units in my modular.

yeah i'm starting to think maybe some Akai thing is the answer. Don't they make some small portable battery-operated MPC sort of thing? I figure this may give me some useful finger pads with the added benefit of some MPC sampling and arranging stuff

I don't know much about them but have always wanted to check one out - this is more your realm than mine, what do you think?

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:25 pm

dkcg wrote:Not super cheap, but kinda cool. I like it's older brother with the infrared sensor and ribbons too.
http://www.rolandus.com/products/produc ... jectId=765
yeah I was thinking about the Handsonic line for sure.... regardless this modular triggering thing, I've always wanted one...

but, bring the money :( If I had enough for that ready to spend, I'd just add a bit more and order another Wiard 300 unit instead. I know, it's just priorities...

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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:37 pm

Muff Wiggler wrote:yeah i'm starting to think maybe some Akai thing is the answer. Don't they make some small portable battery-operated MPC sort of thing? I figure this may give me some useful finger pads with the added benefit of some MPC sampling and arranging stuff

I don't know much about them but have always wanted to check one out - this is more your realm than mine, what do you think?
The MPC500 is their small sampler. I have one, and like it quite a bit. 12 pads, but it sells new for $600CDN (roughly the price of the handsonic 10), you probably could find it used for $400. The MPD24, which is their base controller, sells new for $200CDN. It's probably a bit bigger than the MPC500, at around 30cmx30cm.

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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:44 pm

Getting back to the Faderfox LX2, it's a really cool little unit. Gives you a full octave, with buttons for setting velocity, octave up/down. They're really compact, like 18cmx10cm. Again, cost is around $400, which might suck.

http://www.analoguehaven.com/faderfox/lx2/
http://faderfox.de/html/lx2_product_page.html

Otherwise, have you considered a small MIDI keyboard? Doesn't feel like drums, but I'm sure you could easily find something both small and cheap.

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Post by dkcg » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:21 pm

I'm starting to see MPC1000s for $500 used, which probably means the MPC500 will be around $300 used soon. Do any of the Kaos Pads have midi out? That might be perfect if they do.

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:56 pm

if i could nab an mpc500 for $300 it would be a done deal

(i assume it has a midi out and can send note on info when you strike a pad?)

would love to get it actually, would probably be a fun buddy to bring along on trips for some self-contained beatmaking as well

the Faderfox is overkill as well... as for MIDI keys, yeah, I actually have two, a large 88key weighted controller and a small plasticy thing, which is what I'll probably be using in the interim

also I have the electribe ER-1, like Ross said, which I'm thinking might be a pretty good solution actually....not counting the two 'line in' pads, there's 8 other pads/voices plus the sequencer, and as a bonus i love that little thing

but the pads are small and all in one row, not ideal, but it'll work for now

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Post by shamann » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:14 pm

Yes, the MPC500 does have MIDI out and can send notes when you hit a pad.

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Post by johnnymad » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:18 pm

have you looked at the m-audio trigger finger? i really like mine.

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:42 pm

hehe yeah I sold one to felix a couple months back :guinness:

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