WIGGLING 'LITE' IN GUEST MODE

[smitty.west]

I'm a longtime admirer of modular, but never really had the balls to pull the trigger and seriously commit myself to it. I've now got some money burning a hole in my pocket and as much as I want the new Model D, I think it's time I finally took the plunge into this incredible world. I've had some nice synths (OB-8, SH-101, Voyager, P~6, etc.) and have a very basic understanding of synthesis. I'm not even sure which format to get into, but am thinking one of the larger ones simply because I find Euro too cluttered and cumbersome- sucks that some of the great modules available there aren't available elsewhere, but what ya gonna do... Anyways, what I'm wondering is if $5k USD can get me a decent starter system in most of the formats. I know Serge and Buchla are in the upper price echelons so I might not get as much there, but I'm open to going that route if they're sonically superior- of course that's highly subjective and I know they're more feature-laden. I know $5k isn't much and can be gone in the blink of an eye, but I'm in this for the long haul and will add a module or two every month. My goal is to have a two or three osc core synth with some cool modulators that I can make spaced out mellow sequences on.

[ranix]

the model D is a little overpriced imho. I wouldn't mind having one, it's very nice. But if it were half the price I would have one already. Maybe 2/3rds

[sduck]

Sure, you can easily get a basic system for 5K with enough left over for some cool addons. For MU/5U style stuff the obvious starting point is synthesizers.com - http://synthesizers.com/systems.html

And I wouldn't write off euro systems if I were you - get somewhere you can try one or several! Make Noise and Pittsburgh make highly regarded systems that can be entry points, among others.

While you could possibly come up with a serge or buchla system that'd fit your budget, it'd be really bare-bones, but might be worth looking into...

[lootacow]

If I had $5k, I'd get a synthesizers.com system, and a two row euro. They can interface very nicely. I've been using a lot of euro modulation in my dotcom system and its been awesome. I got my 22space dotcom for $2000. $3k is more than enough to get a decent euro setup. Modulargrid is gonna be a great source to plan your wants/needs according to your budget.

[MindMachine]

[noobyscooby]

This reminds me about the time I called Bruce Duncan years ago about a Modcan A system.

Me: "What kind of system can I get for 2000 dollars?"

Bruce: "Call me back when you have 3000 dollars."

LOL and true.

5k will get a decent system in any format. Even Serge or Buchla.

Do your research, buy used and have fun.

[Robscorch]

I think the question you need to be asking yourself is what do I plan on doing with this system. You can go any route with 5K and I would look into checking out some systems first hand before making a big leap.

[moremagic]

i think that will cover a music easel, which is very well regarded

unless you want the

[revtor]

You have enough $$ to get a great system in almost any format. Search around and pick what gets you excited. Don't worry so much about specs, most modular plays nice with most other modular. A big thing for many is the space requirements of their "studio". A 5U system will take up a lot of space, esp. 5k worth. On the other hand the spaciousness of a 5u system is a joy to work with.

Mixing formats is 100% cool too like others have mentioned. Buying used is a great way to get the most for your $.

And finally, perhaps most important IMHO, is don't blow it all at once. Spend a bunch, get a good foundation. Once you have formed an opinion about how you want to finish off your system (stop laughing guys) you can expand it in the direction you enjoy.. (sequencing, fx, drums, DAW integration, etc etc)

have fun, its going to be quite a trip!
~Steve

[PrimateSynthesis]

[Christopher Winkels]

[Christopher Winkels]

I recently jumped back in and got a nearly complete (if basic) Euro system for $2,000 US. $5,000 will get you a helluva good setup, especially if some or all of it is purchased used.

[smitty.west]

i come from a guitar background and haven't bought new in many years. would definitely prefer to let some other sucker take the hit first and then swipe it up used for significant savings. i realize that might be harder with some esoteric modules, but i don't mind waiting. i'm definitely more interested in 5u if for no other reason but less cramped operation. i'm in toronto and am seriously considering modcan for that alone (+ shipping/customs). is he back to building steadily? i know last year he was taking some time off.

[R T S]

$5000 is an ENVIABLE amount regardless of format.

(Should we start a discussion entitled "What would you do with smitty.west's five thousand dollars?")

Even if you choose the Modcan route you can still put together a great system.

I'll +1 the "take it slow" advice. I know that when I started out my idea of the perfect instrument changed and evolved a great deal as I spent my initial investment. (around $3000 If I remember correctly)

Keep us posted! Half the fun of this is living vicariously through the fortune of others!!

[JohnLRice]

smitty.west, what part of the world do you live in? Shipping costs as well as local and import taxes can eat up a lot of your budget, especially if you are going 5U and ordering cases and power supplies.

[mt3]

$1k is enough. So is $2k.

[smitty.west]

[JohnLRice]

[dirtbudda]

I started with $2500 and spent another $1000 in a month. Take your time and get lots of utiliities,

[Flareless]

Make sure to work HST costs into anything you import. I get hit for everything I order from the US.

BTW, they'll even hit you for HST on used goods sold by private individuals if the packages are insured and the value is declared. Customs makes sure of it.

[Christopher Winkels]

I can't speak to Bruce's situation at the moment as I haven't seen him in three or four years.

I will say though that his gear exudes quality if you want to go that route. The 06 Phase/Timbre module remains one of my favourite to this day, and it's especially useful to a guitarist like yourself, especially when paired with the 45 Envelope Follower.

[jdkee]

Extreme learning curve here. Utilities (read VCAs) are key.

[Paul Perry]

[Orwell]

Sounds like you want east coast stuff
As a beginner just getting a big modular is asking for trouble
I reckon the moog mother and euro small set up would be a good starter
Hell even two moog mothers, a maths, some other vcos maybe try west coast Sputnik and your flying
You could add in an a o coast
Go to store and try out first

[loydb]

If you decide to go Euro, both Makenoise and Verbos offer some really interesting pre-assembled collections, I think AH stocks them both.