Plumbutter v. Cocoquantus (Questions, a few)

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Plumbutter v. Cocoquantus (Questions, a few)

Post by 0014x » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:37 pm

I've had my eye on CL gear for a little over a month. I am still doing a ton of research, but ultimately, want to come to a final decision with what to start with. I guess I could buy a bunch of CL gear all at once but I want to have a feel for it first to know if it's even something that will work for me.

This may sound sort of limiting, but for the sake of simplicity, is the Plumbutter a weird sound generator & the Cocoquantus a sampler/modulator/delay/looper?

I am asking because I am trying to do away with some of my gear (mainly effects pedals) but at the same time, am interested in the Red Panda Particle & LoFi Junky. If I am understanding this correctly, it appears the Cocoquantus is more than capable of reproducing a combination of effects from both of these pedals, is that correct?

I am even considering selling the Phenol so it can be replaces by the Plumbutter but also, what I am thinking is, of the two, the Phenol is the more conventional synth/modulator while the Plumbutter is more expressive and free, so to speak.

Should I start with the Coco (since it appears to be more capable of altering my sounds) and then go for the Plumbutter later (since this seems to be more of a standalone instrument?

My instruments currently consist of: DSI Prophet '08, Kilpatrick Phenol & Bastl Microgranny--amongst a few others.

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Post by noisejockey » Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:20 pm

"Which CL instrument first?" is a common question here; I think your analysis is largely correct. PB is a rhythmic sound generator and CQ is a lo-for delay and looper. Since you've got a lot of other instruments, CQ would have immediate benefit (do remember that it's oscillators can generate audio too, not just delay behavior modulation).

The CQ sounds very unlike the Red Panda Particle. It's grimy, stuttery, 8-bit; the Particle is a lot silkier due to its granular sound engine. It also won't warble pitch like the LFJunkie. But nothing else sounds like the CQ. The amount of modulation possibilities will support basic delays but that's ignoring most of the fun, and most of the point of the design.

I own both, and got the CQ first.

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Post by 0014x » Sun Nov 13, 2016 10:30 pm

noisejockey wrote:"Which CL instrument first?" is a common question here; I think your analysis is largely correct. PB is a rhythmic sound generator and CQ is a lo-for delay and looper. Since you've got a lot of other instruments, CQ would have immediate benefit (do remember that it's oscillators can generate audio too, not just delay behavior modulation).

The CQ sounds very unlike the Red Panda Particle. It's grimy, stuttery, 8-bit; the Particle is a lot silkier due to its granular sound engine. It also won't warble pitch like the LFJunkie. But nothing else sounds like the CQ. The amount of modulation possibilities will support basic delays but that's ignoring most of the fun, and most of the point of the design.

I own both, and got the CQ first.
Thanks for all the info re: Red Panda Particle & LoFi v. Coco. I am listening to your Soundcloud--a wealth of examples there. Thank you!

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Post by mrbloor » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:51 am

What Nathan said. Coco is a good start, I would also add take your time with it. These instruments are a little deep, the more time you spend with them the better the relationship. If you gel with the coco, you will end up with a plumbutter for sure but the coco will add a lot to your present system and more often than not, open up new avenues and ways of working. Best of luck.

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Post by 0014x » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:27 am

Thank you for all that.

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Post by ExtrasensoryPerception » Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:01 pm

Coco first!!!!! you'll love it!

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Post by clarte » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:10 pm

Listen to this for the plumbutter sound

https://gameoflife.bandcamp.com/album/h ... lonbardier


And this for the coco

https://kozepz.bandcamp.com/album/co-ected

These are two amazing albums and great showcases of the potential these instruments contain.

The plumbutter might be a good first step depending on what you want to achieve.

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Post by ignacio » Thu Nov 24, 2016 10:47 am

Just got a Plumbutter last weekend. Digging in this weekend. Will report back. First foray into CL territory. Wish me luck.

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Post by The Grump » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:53 pm

I'd say go with the Coco. That thing will change your life forever. The PB is awesome, too, but the Cocoquantus is the Transdimensional Portal Key. Period.

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Post by jimmie » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:21 am

Personally I'd take Plumbutter over Cocoquantus :lol:

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Post by The Grump » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:40 pm

jimmie wrote:Personally I'd take Plumbutter over Cocoquantus :lol:
Then that is what you should do, and I'm sure you have your reasons for doing so.

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Post by jimmie » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:55 am

The Grump wrote:
jimmie wrote:Personally I'd take Plumbutter over Cocoquantus :lol:
Then that is what you should do, and I'm sure you have your reasons for doing so.
Yeah, I have both, so my opinion is from using them both. Coco is a great machine of course :mrgreen:

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