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most realistic kick i've ever done

Post by Kwote » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:14 am

http://www.kwotemusic.com/punchbowl.mp3

please do me a favor and tell me how it sounds on your speakers, good quality or bad. laptops included. i'm trying to get an idea of how my stuff fairs across the board.

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Post by Kent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:27 am

Pretty cool. You've got that "outer skin flappin around" thing down.

I'm listening to it on iPod ear-buds at the moment. Can check-it, check-it out on the big system in a few hours.

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Post by cebec » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:12 am

very punchy and deep on these horrid laptop speakers.

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Post by Kwote » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:48 am

cebec wrote:very punchy and deep on these horrid laptop speakers.
werd. that's nice to hear. it made the grade on my car system. no rediculous amounts of lowend to the point of being barely audible per my usual :lol:

i think it might be safe to say i found the patch that'll make the grade. gotta test things out on my friend's monitors. his shit is like make or break. so far i've failed everything i've put on there. hopefully this'll be the one to crack the riddle.
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Post by GCF » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:36 pm

Sounds good on some AT headphones. Full and round sound.

Did you make all these drum sounds on a modular?

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Post by Kwote » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:17 pm

GCF wrote:Sounds good on some AT headphones. Full and round sound.

Did you make all these drum sounds on a modular?
yep. frac rack - blacet, wiard, metalbox, bananalogue all got involved. :)

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Post by sgnhh » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:31 pm

Haven't heard it, but what modules did you use and how did you use them?

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Post by synthetic » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:15 pm

Cool sound, very Simmons. (On Sony cans)

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Post by dkcg » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:22 pm

Sounds good on my crappy little Sony headphones.
Just as a personal preference, it could use a little more snap on the attack, like a harder mallet hitting the skin. Like one more track of audio for a quick snap/decay mixed in there. Like I said, just a personal preference.

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Post by J.w.M. » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:34 pm

Listening to it now on my 7506 headphones. Sounds great.
I'd be verrry interested to know more about this patch.

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Post by Kwote » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:39 pm

i'll post patch details later tonight. yeah the snappiness on the attack would be easy. i actually adjusted the attack to give it less snap and more roundness.

well looks like maybe it's my homie's speakers then. he listened and said it's still peaking/cracking on his system. i mean his speakers are cheap and he plays stuff way too loud but all the other beats i've ever heard on his setup don't do this. of course most of em are probably digital beats with not nearly as much thump.

i guess if i reduced the impact of the kick that would help but i really love that hard thump sound. this sucks. :(
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Post by dkcg » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:54 pm

Kwote wrote:i'll post patch details later tonight. yeah the snappiness on the attack would be easy. i actually adjusted the attack to give it less snap and more roundness.

well looks like maybe it's my homie's speakers then. he listened and said it's still peaking/cracking on his system. i mean his speakers are cheap and he plays stuff way too loud but all the other beats i've ever heard on his setup don't do this. of course most of em are probably digital beats with not nearly as much thump.

i guess if i reduced the impact of the kick that would help but i really love that hard thump sound. this sucks. :(
What if you EQ it to have a little less on the super low-end, and a little boost right around 100-150Hz and/or compression to get that bass up w/o too much low end, but keeping most the tone/snap of the kick?

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Post by Soy Sos » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:47 pm

For the kind of music I do and listening on the MackieHR824
monitors in my studio, I'd say it could still use a little boost
somewhere between 75 and 100hz. If I were tracking it
for use in a song I would want the kick on it's own track and
EQ it in my multi-track application. (Digital Performer).
But all in all it's a mad cool pattern and beat composition.
Nice!

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Post by JohnLRice » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:32 pm

Sounds really great on Yamaha MSP3 speakers! :domodance:

It really makes it believable sounding to have what sounds like the 'other toms' ringing and 'snare wires' buzzing in the back ground. Nice! If you wanted to go for fooling people I would try to add a little of that into the snare sound too and not make it so dry.

Great job!

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:31 pm

nice little track!

it does sound realistic! nice job

it sounds pretty beefy over here on crappy laptop speakers, but with a flappy thing happening

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Post by dkcg » Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:11 am

Sounds even better at home. Maybe he's just hearing the noise in the snare or I think I hear a little in the kick. I like the snare/rimshot.

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Post by scozbor » Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:19 am

nice work! you're really starting to nail the modular percussion! :sb:

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Post by Kwote » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:33 am

JohnLRice wrote:Sounds really great on Yamaha MSP3 speakers! :domodance:

It really makes it believable sounding to have what sounds like the 'other toms' ringing and 'snare wires' buzzing in the back ground. Nice! If you wanted to go for fooling people I would try to add a little of that into the snare sound too and not make it so dry.

Great job!
my reverb pedal busted. that tends to help the snare but that's my next assignment, a more quality snare patch.
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Post by Kwote » Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:36 am

Soy Sos wrote:For the kind of music I do and listening on the MackieHR824
monitors in my studio, I'd say it could still use a little boost
somewhere between 75 and 100hz. If I were tracking it
for use in a song I would want the kick on it's own track and
EQ it in my multi-track application. (Digital Performer).
But all in all it's a mad cool pattern and beat composition.
Nice!
i'm probably gonna get that fixed filter bank pcb so i'll have some good opportunities for that kind of mixing.

i think filtering out the low end might help so i think i'll give that a shot. it worked before but the overall sound quality suffered. perhaps with this patch things'll be different. hard to say. back to the laboratory :twisted:
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Post by cebec » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:08 am

Try rolling off the low-end at around 45 Hz and see how that sounds on your friend's speakers. Maybe combine this with the other EQ suggestions, here.

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Post by Soy Sos » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:42 am

Yeah, that's the other thing about kicks like cebec said,
a lot of times I'm combining cut and boost when it comes to low end.
Usually a cut in the ultra lows like 25/35/45 hz and a boost
some where between 60-100 hz, looking for the "sweet spot"
for that sound. It really has to do with what else in going on in the
low end of the piece. In many tracks I work on there are sometime
3 or 4 things producing information between 30 and 200hz.
These can be sorted out with EQ or even keeping parts from playing at the same time.
Here's an example, I hope this is helpful:
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Post by Kwote » Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:18 am

werd. yeah i totally get the concept and really appreciate everyone's feedback.
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