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Post by calaveras » Fri May 10, 2019 11:44 am

This is a great lesson on how not to launch products.
I got to check out the Manther at Control once. It has a nice PWM sound. Pretty cute little analog synth. But nothing so compelling that I'd buy it instead of an Analog 4, Minilogue or any number of contemporary analog synths with sequencing.
The announce of the other two products years before they are available only has me worried about buying stuff from Malekko. They have been around for a while and put out solid products. But that move undermined my confidence in them. I was very enthusiastic about the BFF and it's siblings. But now I'll have none of them. Elektron, Sequential and Moog will probably be getting my money instead.
I hope it works out for those boxes. But Jeez guys.

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Post by Torn n Frayed » Fri May 10, 2019 12:55 pm

IRRC they've stated they won't release more boxes until they get the 1st box working properly. Sounds like a solid business move..

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Post by SweetNuthin » Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 pm

It was a Brave move from Malekko the decision to create this groovebox but, IMHO, the biggest mistake was not calling out Roland and create this series with them.. They could have used Roland expertise and marketing potential.

Look at the Se-02, that this is really well done.

I had a Manther for a month and then returned it back.. It had a great potential but it was not a mature or ready product, and that was a shame because it sounded really good.

The right move for Malekko, at least for me, it would be to call Roland HQ and try to release the Manther, BFF and Mr.D under Roland help
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Post by KoryB » Sun May 12, 2019 5:48 pm

Is the BFF still coming out?

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Post by flashheart » Wed May 15, 2019 10:04 am

Dunno, certainly no sign of it at Superbooth :despair:
I'm not buying a maths though, not my idea of fun...

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Post by davidjames » Wed May 15, 2019 11:54 am

They talked about BFF on the Podular Modcast episode with Scott Jaeger of IME. Sounds like it's still a thing.
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Post by anselmi » Wed May 15, 2019 1:58 pm

KoryB wrote:Is the BFF still coming out?
after all the manther odyssey in the past pages I really doubt I could be interested again in this products...a shame, because I liked the idea, but to buy one feels kinda like a gamble now

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Post by messier35 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:16 pm

calaveras wrote:This is a great lesson on how not to launch products.
I got to check out the Manther at Control once. It has a nice PWM sound. Pretty cute little analog synth. But nothing so compelling that I'd buy it instead of an Analog 4, Minilogue or any number of contemporary analog synths with sequencing.
The announce of the other two products years before they are available only has me worried about buying stuff from Malekko. They have been around for a while and put out solid products. But that move undermined my confidence in them. I was very enthusiastic about the BFF and it's siblings. But now I'll have none of them. Elektron, Sequential and Moog will probably be getting my money instead.
I hope it works out for those boxes. But Jeez guys.
Hi, I have moog, elektron a4 and manther. So i would like to give my perspective on that synth. Nothing i have soundS like the manther. I would recomend this sinth to best friends, with all it flows (i haven't experience bugs or anything, i just think they made some strange decisions, like turning off and on the synth after you change clock sorce), it sounds big and special. It bass sits incredibly healthy in the mix. Only synth i had, that was sounding so good raw, was juno 60. If malekko make other boxes, i would support them. Again, a4 is interesting sinth, but it is not Manther, i assure you. Peace

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Post by fattyparts » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:46 pm

Completely agree with the post above me. Manther is special, it’s had a rough upbringing but the boi done good.

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Post by ddiamond84 » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:06 am

SweetNuthin wrote:It was a Brave move from Malekko the decision to create this groovebox but, IMHO, the biggest mistake was not calling out Roland and create this series with them.. They could have used Roland expertise and marketing potential.

Look at the Se-02, that this is really well done.

I had a Manther for a month and then returned it back.. It had a great potential but it was not a mature or ready product, and that was a shame because it sounded really good.

The right move for Malekko, at least for me, it would be to call Roland HQ and try to release the Manther, BFF and Mr.D under Roland help
What're some things about it that aren't ready or mature? I only ask because I got to play around with one today for about an hour and was blown away by the sounds and how fun it was to motion record and play with the delay. I want to pick one up but would love to hear your thoughts on it.

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Post by chiasticon » Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:42 am

ddiamond84 wrote:What're some things about it that aren't ready or mature? I only ask because I got to play around with one today for about an hour and was blown away by the sounds and how fun it was to motion record and play with the delay. I want to pick one up but would love to hear your thoughts on it.
scroll through this thread back about a year ago or so. it came out around then and there were some issues with the OS. some things didn't work perfectly or weren't implemented yet. I'm pretty sure most of these issues have been repaired by now, but I don't have one any more so can't say. my impression of it is similar to the person to whom you were replying. in short: it wasn't quite ready to hit the market when it did, but it certainly does some very cool things and has a lot of potential.

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Post by ddiamond84 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:10 am

chiasticon wrote:
ddiamond84 wrote:What're some things about it that aren't ready or mature? I only ask because I got to play around with one today for about an hour and was blown away by the sounds and how fun it was to motion record and play with the delay. I want to pick one up but would love to hear your thoughts on it.
scroll through this thread back about a year ago or so. it came out around then and there were some issues with the OS. some things didn't work perfectly or weren't implemented yet. I'm pretty sure most of these issues have been repaired by now, but I don't have one any more so can't say. my impression of it is similar to the person to whom you were replying. in short: it wasn't quite ready to hit the market when it did, but it certainly does some very cool things and has a lot of potential.
Thanks for the response. I scrolled back and see some problems discussed, but it seems like most of the problems were addressed/fixed. I guess I'll find out. I love the sound and playability, hopefully it isn't too buggy!

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Just got one and I love it!!

Post by ddiamond84 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:58 pm

I got one today and it's seriously awesome. Super simple to use but so powerful, amazing sounds, great built in delay, motion recording that takes you to crazy places fast. The sequencer is great too!

Mine has no problems that I can see, and I really love the updates so far. A really beautiful sounding looking playing synth!

Anyone else that has/played one have any thoughts? Any other fans of it?

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Re: Just got one and I love it!!

Post by DisarmingMorpheus » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:18 pm

ddiamond84 wrote:I got one today and it's seriously awesome. Super simple to use but so powerful, amazing sounds, great built in delay, motion recording that takes you to crazy places fast. The sequencer is great too!

Mine has no problems that I can see, and I really love the updates so far. A really beautiful sounding looking playing synth!

Anyone else that has/played one have any thoughts? Any other fans of it?
mine will come this weekend from Perfect Circuit - it will be my first synth! :>

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Post by computer controlled » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:10 am

I finally got one the other day. Updated to the latest OS and everything seems fine. No sync issues, no transpose issues, works solid. The only thing i found that is weird it the filter steps when swept upwards, but is smooth when swept downwards. Very strange. But doesn't bother me much. Great synth!
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Post by ddiamond84 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:27 am

computer controlled wrote:I finally got one the other day. Updated to the latest OS and everything seems fine. No sync issues, no transpose issues, works solid. The only thing i found that is weird it the filter steps when swept upwards, but is smooth when swept downwards. Very strange. But doesn't bother me much. Great synth!
We have almost all the same synths! I've always wanted to try an Avalon bassline. How do you like it? I love the tb-03 I just got but it makes me even more curious to try the Avalon!

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Post by computer controlled » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:01 pm

ddiamond84 wrote:
computer controlled wrote:I finally got one the other day. Updated to the latest OS and everything seems fine. No sync issues, no transpose issues, works solid. The only thing i found that is weird it the filter steps when swept upwards, but is smooth when swept downwards. Very strange. But doesn't bother me much. Great synth!
We have almost all the same synths! I've always wanted to try an Avalon bassline. How do you like it? I love the tb-03 I just got but it makes me even more curious to try the Avalon!
The Avalon is fantastic. If you can find one, it's worth the money!!
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Post by GIT » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:13 am

computer controlled wrote:I finally got one the other day. Updated to the latest OS and everything seems fine. No sync issues, no transpose issues, works solid. The only thing i found that is weird it the filter steps when swept upwards, but is smooth when swept downwards. Very strange. But doesn't bother me much. Great synth!
I’m having the same experience with the filter. Funnier yet it doesn’t behave this way when opened via CV. Malekko has been mum on the matter thus far. The wave folder also behaves this way. I find this disruptive when the goal is a smooth sweep. I’m already considering getting an Intellijel tetrapad which would allow me to easily manually open the filter without the jumps. But it’s frustrating that this hasn’t been addressed with firmware updates that have addressed things like envelope behaviors. Any insights? Other opinions on this funny behavior on an otherwise incredible box?

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Post by kay_k » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:34 pm

I can confirm fader movement is steppy upwards - smooth down
If you listen carefully that is true for all faders.

I actually only noticed with the wave folder before. So it is not too bad.

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Post by kay_k » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:18 am

While the new record mode looked nice on Instagram, I was actually hoping the fader bug would be addressed.

still 3 serious feature opportunities missing: Env.mod --> Folder, Pitch tracking of the delay and a legato mode like on most other synths (with slide)

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Post by enlovoz » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:21 am

I just watched this video
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I definitly want a legato mode with slide to write this kind of bassline !

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Post by kay_k » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:26 am

enlovoz wrote:I just watched this video
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I definitly want a legato mode with slide to write this kind of bassline !
I made this video with the intention to show how this would sound like.
I mean the MC-202 could do it, a SH-101 and not to mention the TB-303.
Even the cheap Volca Bass is able to do it, so why do I have to yell?

Btw. I used the Intellijel Metropolis as a sequencer here (that is also able to do it) but this way you loose Accent, Probability and motion sequencing which sucks

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