Announcing ALM017 - Pamela's NEW Workout

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Post by resynthesize » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:52 am

Interesting, I looked closely at the original pam and octocontroller a few months ago when I needed a clock module. I opted for octocontroller because of the additional synced output types. but the one thing I wish the octocontroller had was cv for some of the type parameters (rate, phase, etc). I suspect we might be seeing some octocontrollers in BST soon.

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Post by ALM » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:15 pm

Thanks - fixed ! The manual is correct re power consumption. website updated.
Paranormal Patroler wrote:Manual and site disagree on the Expanders' requirements on power. Site says Pexp-1 needs 15mA and Pexp-2 needs 25mA and manual says the opposite. Also, page 7 of the manual, first paragraph has "before before". Sorry, I write manuals for a living these days. I found a couple of other small mistakes, ALM let me know if interested.

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Post by ALM » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:17 pm

bobbcorr wrote:Pexp-1 added to Modulargrid. Please review and edit as necessary, thx.
Thank you! I need to fix power - my bad. Sorry.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:18 pm

ALM wrote:
bobbcorr wrote:Pexp-1 added to Modulargrid. Please review and edit as necessary, thx.
Thank you! I need to fix power - my bad. Sorry.
I added Pexp-2, kept power to 15mA. Not sure if depth is indeed 38mm, do check. Thanks.
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Post by ALM » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:18 pm

bobbcorr wrote:Can you see a scenario in which you would need BOTH Pexp-1 and Pexp-2?
Note they are exclusive - you could maybe chain with a special cable but never tried!

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Post by albiedamned » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:53 pm

I used the Rotate setting on the old Pam a lot, but I don't see that in the manual for the New Pam. I'm assuming there's probably another way to do this though. Can you explain?

Also one other question - what is the Envelope shape? Is it like a trapezoid maybe, with an attack, sustain, and release stage?
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Post by ALM » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:25 pm

albiedamned wrote:I used the Rotate setting on the old Pam a lot, but I don't see that in the manual for the New Pam. I'm assuming there's probably another way to do this though. Can you explain?
You can rotate the Euclidean patterns. This should cover prior usage? Also Phase setting.
albiedamned wrote: Also one other question - what is the Envelope shape? Is it like a trapezoid maybe, with an attack, sustain, and release stage?
Its a simple decay only percussive type envelope.

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Post by rustyjaw » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:26 pm

Wow this sounds sweet. The original Pam has been clocking my modular since I first got it. Sounds like this is a very worthy update!
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Post by albiedamned » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:29 pm

ALM wrote:
albiedamned wrote:I used the Rotate setting on the old Pam a lot, but I don't see that in the manual for the New Pam. I'm assuming there's probably another way to do this though. Can you explain?
You can rotate the Euclidean patterns. This should cover prior usage? Also Phase setting.


Does Euclidean mode respect the other settings, like width? In the old Pam's, Euclidean mode was always just a trigger. The use case I am thinking of is wanting to send a 100% step width gate every 4th beat or something similar.
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albiedamned wrote: Also one other question - what is the Envelope shape? Is it like a trapezoid maybe, with an attack, sustain, and release stage?
Its a simple decay only percussive type envelope.
So doesn't that make it the same as a fully skewed triangle?
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Post by ALM » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:47 pm

albiedamned wrote:
Does Euclidean mode respect the other settings, like width? In the old Pam's, Euclidean mode was always just a trigger. The use case I am thinking of is wanting to send a 100% step width gate every 4th beat or something similar.


Yes Euclidean does respect. So in your example, you could do a 1 trig in 4 step Euclidean Pattern and then rotate as required. You'd set width to 100%.

Alternatively you'd do a 25% at a 1/4 of the speed and then alter the phase or delay.
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So doesn't that make it the same as a fully skewed triangle?
No as skewed triangle would be linear (env is exponential) and you couldn't alter the decay time (tri width skews, env width changes decay time).

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Post by albiedamned » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:49 pm

Awesome! Thanks for the answers.
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Post by bobbcorr » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:42 pm

ALM wrote:
bobbcorr wrote:Pexp-1 added to Modulargrid. Please review and edit as necessary, thx.
Thank you! I need to fix power - my bad. Sorry.
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Post by igowen » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:03 pm

preordered the heck out of this! as much as i love the old-school flair of the display on the original pam, this looks like it adds a boatload of functionality with no additional HP cost. can't wait! :banana:

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Post by albiedamned » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:34 pm

Pre-ordered. And I never pre-order anything.
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Post by nickbaba » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:40 pm

where are you guys pre-ordering these?

I can't find it listed at any of the stockists...

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Post by rikrak » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:42 pm

Any idea where I can pre-order in the UK?

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Post by digits » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:44 pm

nickbaba wrote:where are you guys pre-ordering these?

I can't find it listed at any of the stockists...
Control NY - preordered mines too.

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Post by a773 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:50 pm

I'm pretty sure I'm looking at my new clock module

Anyone wants to buy my tempi?

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:01 pm

atte wrote:I'm pretty sure I'm looking at my new clock module

Anyone wants to buy my tempi?
Ha! Called it. :hihi: (when the Tempi came out I was amazed why people hadn't been using the old Pam this way).
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Post by nickbaba » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:16 pm

Ah OK, I see - yeah, me UK too

Can't find any UK pre-order... guess Matt will have them but he doesn't do pre's

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Post by Outtatune » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:18 pm

Help a brother out here... is there anything a Batumi can do that this can't?
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Post by Footkerchief » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:27 pm

Outtatune wrote:Help a brother out here... is there anything a Batumi can do that this can't?
Batumi has independent voltage control of all four channels, enabling all kinds of cross-modulation etc.

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Post by ugokcen » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:43 pm

Batumi can do free running (unsynced) lfos and has sliders so you can manipulate the lfo rates in real time. It also has 12 outputs as opposed to 8 on the Pam's.

I've been using Batumi for clocking Rene and I'm definitely going to get the new Pam for that. Batumi can then go back to lfo duties like vibrato, pwm etc. Best of both worlds :love:

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Post by Outtatune » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:03 pm

I need both. Got it! :) My case is full so I was looking at what 8HP of clock-related kit can be swapped out for this. Perhaps my A-160-2 & A-160-5. Hmmmm...
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Post by propertyof » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:22 pm

rikrak wrote:Any idea where I can pre-order in the UK?
nickbaba wrote:Ah OK, I see - yeah, me UK too

Can't find any UK pre-order... guess Matt will have them but he doesn't do pre's
Rubadub has it listed for pre-order. including the expander.
http://www.rubadub.co.uk/catalogsearch/result/?q=pamela

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