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Cheap bitcrush pedal experience?

Post by Cowabunga-man » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:17 am

Has anyone had any satisfying experiences with any of the chep bitcrush pedals out there, such as mooer lofi machine or cnz crush bit?
(Are they the same pedal?)
Would you recommend one?

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Re: Cheap bitcrush pedal experience?

Post by smetak » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:12 pm

Cowabunga-man wrote:Has anyone had any satisfying experiences with any of the chep bitcrush pedals out there, such as mooer lofi machine or cnz crush bit?
(Are they the same pedal?)
Would you recommend one?
Although I've used a good many Mooer pedals - I only recommend their distortions & overdrives - the rest, pretty lame. The Lo Fi machine I did get a chance to test - found it terrible.

I use the Geiger Counter, full version - yes, not terribly cheap - but essential. Can't live without it. You may try the so called "civilian issue", which is US$100 less.

There's one now on Reverb for US$174:

https://reverb.com/item/3496460-wmd-geiger-counter

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Re: Cheap bitcrush pedal experience?

Post by Cowabunga-man » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:45 am

smetak wrote:
Cowabunga-man wrote:Has anyone had any satisfying experiences with any of the chep bitcrush pedals out there, such as mooer lofi machine or cnz crush bit?
(Are they the same pedal?)
Would you recommend one?
Although I've used a good many Mooer pedals - I only recommend their distortions & overdrives - the rest, pretty lame. The Lo Fi machine I did get a chance to test - found it terrible.

I use the Geiger Counter, full version - yes, not terribly cheap - but essential. Can't live without it. You may try the so called "civilian issue", which is US$100 less.

There's one now on Reverb for US$174:

https://reverb.com/item/3496460-wmd-geiger-counter
Thanks! The full version seems really cool but perhaps a bit too many functions.. I realized there's a fine balance between endless possibilities and me actually getting smtn made :)
The civilian looks great though! And the low fidelity mode is definitely a big +. Do you know if it's possibe to mix dry/wet signal on any of the geiger versions?

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Post by smetak » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:06 am

Cowabunga-man wrote:
smetak wrote:
Cowabunga-man wrote:Has anyone had any satisfying experiences with any of the chep bitcrush pedals out there, such as mooer lofi machine or cnz crush bit?
(Are they the same pedal?)
Would you recommend one?
Although I've used a good many Mooer pedals - I only recommend their distortions & overdrives - the rest, pretty lame. The Lo Fi machine I did get a chance to test - found it terrible.

I use the Geiger Counter, full version - yes, not terribly cheap - but essential. Can't live without it. You may try the so called "civilian issue", which is US$100 less.

There's one now on Reverb for US$174:

https://reverb.com/item/3496460-wmd-geiger-counter
Thanks! The full version seems really cool but perhaps a bit too many functions.. I realized there's a fine balance between endless possibilities and me actually getting smtn made :)
The civilian looks great though! And the low fidelity mode is definitely a big +. Do you know if it's possibe to mix dry/wet signal on any of the geiger versions?
Nope, unfortunately there isn't a way to control the mix on the GC.

But you may want to look into the Malekko Scrutator (another bitcrusher I have, but had forgotten about.....), which is a tad cheaper and does have a mix - also, you can work the parameters via an expression pedal (which you can also do with the GC).

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Post by Cowabunga-man » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:34 am

smetak wrote:
Nope, unfortunately there isn't a way to control the mix on the GC.

But you may want to look into the Malekko Scrutator (another bitcrusher I have, but had forgotten about.....), which is a tad cheaper and does have a mix - also, you can work the parameters via an expression pedal (which you can also do with the GC).
I have no experience of Malekko but they seem decent some how. I didn't intend to use it with guitar, more with synths, samples and CL plumbutter, but after watching some videos I think it actually could work nice with the guitar, as intended. Especially with the mix allowing for subtle crush .. Thanks

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Post by smetak » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:44 am

Cowabunga-man wrote:
smetak wrote:
Nope, unfortunately there isn't a way to control the mix on the GC.

But you may want to look into the Malekko Scrutator (another bitcrusher I have, but had forgotten about.....), which is a tad cheaper and does have a mix - also, you can work the parameters via an expression pedal (which you can also do with the GC).
I have no experience of Malekko but they seem decent some how. I didn't intend to use it with guitar, more with synths, samples and CL plumbutter, but after watching some videos I think it actually could work nice with the guitar, as intended. Especially with the mix allowing for subtle crush .. Thanks
You may want to look into the bitcrusher by Red Panda:

http://www.redpandalab.com/products/bitmap

It also has a mix control and the price I believe is not very steep - I have their Particle, which I use for guitar, but works well with synths.

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Post by Cowabunga-man » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:55 pm

:tu:

and in the same price range Dr Scientist Bitquest looks interesting..

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Post by smetak » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:49 pm

Cowabunga-man wrote::tu:

and in the same price range Dr Scientist Bitquest looks interesting..
Although I have never tried his bitcrusher, I have his "Elements" (which I have used in place of a SolidGold fuzz) - excellent pedal!

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Post by Cowabunga-man » Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:13 pm

smetak wrote:
Although I have never tried his bitcrusher, I have his "Elements" (which I have used in place of a SolidGold fuzz) - excellent pedal!
I bet it is! Even though it's far from a fuzz, I'm very satisfied with the "Cleanness".

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Post by Amer1231 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:36 pm

not super cheap but the EQD bit commander is amazing. actually, anything by EQD is amazing.
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Post by smetak » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:53 pm

Amer1231 wrote:not super cheap but the EQD bit commander is amazing. actually, anything by EQD is amazing.
Never tried the Bit Commander - but should! I'm a bit fan of Earthquaker, though I think of them more in terms of their delays and reverbs than anything on the "dirtier" side.

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Post by Antlerface » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:01 pm

Hotone Krush is adorable and works well. Lofi Machine is totally great.

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Post by smetak » Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:47 pm

Antlerface wrote:Hotone Krush is adorable and works well. Lofi Machine is totally great.

Hi guys! :chug:
Hadn't heard about this one - and with a mix knob!

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Post by durwin » Wed May 10, 2017 5:56 pm

Hotone Krush!

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Post by Metatarsals » Wed May 10, 2017 6:31 pm

I had a Geiger Counter and it was brutal.

Worth checking out Lateral Sound's Bit and Bitfix pedals. I have one of their Root pedals and demoed a Bit a while back when I had the Geiger Counter.

Can recommend.
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Post by smetak » Wed May 10, 2017 9:09 pm

Metatarsals wrote:I had a Geiger Counter and it was brutal.

Worth checking out Lateral Sound's Bit and Bitfix pedals. I have one of their Root pedals and demoed a Bit a while back when I had the Geiger Counter.

Can recommend.
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Despite my love, I bought the new Ottobit by Meris - but haven't had a chance to use it yet. But when I saw/heard the demos, I instantly flipped! This is something I just MUST try! Seems like a supernova version of the CG!

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Post by Metatarsals » Fri May 12, 2017 3:56 pm

smetak wrote:
Despite my love, I bought the new Ottobit by Meris - but haven't had a chance to use it yet. But when I saw/heard the demos, I instantly flipped! This is something I just MUST try! Seems like a supernova version of the CG!
I'll have to go and do some investigating re: Meris...
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Post by dkcg » Fri May 12, 2017 7:28 pm

The Meris Ottobit is great. The only wish I had was that the right and left channels could have seperate settings for some stereo bit processing, but it's a super minimal wish.

It's packed with features that don't seem obvious at first.

But it ain't cheap. I have a Geiger Counter, but it's so chaotic and trying to find settings again is a weakness. The Meris handles instrument and line levels.

Heck, even if it's distorting and getting digital clipping, can you really tell? :D
But it doesn't. the filter stays sounding nice (for a digtal filter) even with my modular and Elektrons straight in.

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Post by smetak » Fri May 12, 2017 8:57 pm

dkcg wrote:The Meris Ottobit is great. The only wish I had was that the right and left channels could have seperate settings for some stereo bit processing, but it's a super minimal wish.

It's packed with features that don't seem obvious at first.

But it ain't cheap. I have a Geiger Counter, but it's so chaotic and trying to find settings again is a weakness. The Meris handles instrument and line levels.

Heck, even if it's distorting and getting digital clipping, can you really tell? :D
But it doesn't. the filter stays sounding nice (for a digtal filter) even with my modular and Elektrons straight in.
Thus has spoken the wiggler who bought my attention to the Meris.

And if still in doubt, this video says it all:

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Post by tuj » Sat May 13, 2017 6:46 am

I had the Mooer Lo-Fi. Honestly, I thought it did what it was supposed to. No frills but I didn't think it sounded terrible. I have a GC too, and that is of course much better because of the different distortions in it. I had a GC civilian issue once and would NEVER get it again because it doesn't offer the controls of the full GC. Very limiting.

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Post by Metatarsals » Sat May 13, 2017 7:20 am

dkcg wrote: I have a Geiger Counter, but it's so chaotic and trying to find settings again is a weakness.
Yeah, this is why I don't own a GC any longer. It was all over the place, and whilst I romanticised that for about 3 years, I decided to sell it on and get the Infanem Second Voice Deluxe. It's a more straightforward, manageable monster, but a monster all the same!
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Post by NoLegs » Sun May 14, 2017 11:41 am

I got my Ottobit Jr. a few days ago. Not cheap - but I love this thing! It's surprisingly deep, but I feel like the UI and alt functions were designed very well and I understood (and remembered) everything after a few minutes.

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Post by MindMachine » Sat May 20, 2017 12:57 am

The Moerer seems cool but just go for a Particle. Endless ability.
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Post by IR » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:28 am

I'm actually interested in this as well. There's also a Tomsline Mario, but it doesn't seem very good in the demos, although personally I'm not interested in using it for guitar at all, mainly drum machine and a bit with synths too.

There are some demos of the Hotone with drum machine, I wish they stayed longer on some settings.

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This one has some synth and drum machine at the end.
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There's a bit of that in the Mooer video as well.
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However, I am not crazy about how it sounds in this video, either with the synth or psytrance mix. And I prefer Hotone in general, but I am intrigued about the Mooer's synth setting, which may be better for level matching.

I have tried the bit crushing effect in the Korg ESX-1 and don't really care for it, I'm looking for making a drum machine sound like an Atari or C64.

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Post by tIB » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:04 am

Do think still do the DIY bugcrusher?

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