Kammerl Beat-Repeat Effect for Clouds

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Post by Bitmud » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:19 pm

I do a test run.
It works for me :tu:

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/317701874" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]

thanks!

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Post by jkammerl » Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:47 pm

Cool! Thanks for sharing the sample!

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Post by starmandeluxe » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:00 am

I hate to be "that guy" but it seems like the site is now down and I can't get the wav file anymore. Any good souls have an alternative link/dropbox/PM? :waah:

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Post by Tonemod » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:39 am

starmandeluxe wrote:I hate to be "that guy" but it seems like the site is now down and I can't get the wav file anymore. Any good souls have an alternative link/dropbox/PM? :waah:
You're not alone. Would love to try out this firmware.

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Post by Bitmud » Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:09 am

Tonemod wrote:
starmandeluxe wrote:I hate to be "that guy" but it seems like the site is now down and I can't get the wav file anymore. Any good souls have an alternative link/dropbox/PM? :waah:
You're not alone. Would love to try out this firmware.
The download link should work again:

www.kammerl.de/audio/clouds/


hf

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Post by Bitmud » Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:20 pm

This is just a tiny sheet for the Kammerl beat repeat effect:

Freeze = On / off
Loop start | Loop size | Pitch

Gain | Loop size modulation | Slice Step | Bend

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Post by Tonemod » Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:10 pm

Bitmud wrote: The download link should work again:

www.kammerl.de/audio/clouds/

hf
Downloaded and installed, thank you.

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Post by 10 Miles High » Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:28 am

I was also confused that the module did not work as expected with 0.3 firmware.

But now, with 0.31 on, everything is just fine :driving:

Thanx for the cool effect and for the reverb pre/post fix !!!


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Post by starmandeluxe » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:38 am

Bitmud wrote:
Tonemod wrote:
starmandeluxe wrote:I hate to be "that guy" but it seems like the site is now down and I can't get the wav file anymore. Any good souls have an alternative link/dropbox/PM? :waah:
You're not alone. Would love to try out this firmware.
The download link should work again:

www.kammerl.de/audio/clouds/


hf
Awesome! It works!! A few thoughts and tips for everyone:

1. I was getting some very audible "click" sounds every single time the beat repeat triggered (either freeze or probability), which made it really annoying and just about unusable. After a few re-installs of the firmware with no luck, I tried re-calibrating the pitch of Clouds per the original manual. Sure enough, that seemed to fix the problem entirely.

2. This is probably true for stock firmware and Parasites, but the install failed a few times until I made sure the input level gave me 3 LEDs instead of 2 during install, and that let it complete all the way.

3. One of the more recent Parasites firmware features was a "quick mode change" function where pressing both load and mode buttons at the same time allowed you to bypass the really annoying 5-second long press. I know people asked for the post-reverb from Parasites, but this quick mode change is even more desirable to retain for me personally. Any chances...?

All in all, thank you so much for this amazing work. This takes my setup to a whole 'nother level :bananaguitar:

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Post by JonathanBedrava » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:09 am

I've played with this some this morning and am really liking the sounds I'm getting out of it. It might be my new favorite Clouds firmware.

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Post by JonathanBedrava » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:22 pm

Yeah, I'm really digging it.

I whipped this bad boy up this afternoon while messing around with this firmware:
[video][/video]

Moderator edit: if you get rid of the 's' in the 'https' the video will embed properly. :tu:

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Post by nectarios » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:24 pm

Works here too

[video][/video]

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Post by mwvm » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:07 pm

[video][/video]
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Post by starmandeluxe » Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:42 am

OK I wanted to report more problems after trying out version 0.31 some more.

If I use this for a significant length of time (about 20-30 minutes) and get some really short repeats with the Position and Size knobs at low settings, it causes FM-like pitched oscillations. While that sounds cool, if I do that too much my entire Clouds hangs and just freezes on a high-pitched tone. Nothing works after this and the long-press won't even change modes, so I have to power off.

Unfortunately this renders it unusable for live performance... Anything I might be doing wrong? Anyone else having this issue?

Another strange thing is, when I calibrate with the 1V and 3V, it sets correctly the pitch of the stock Clouds modes, yet for the Kammerl beat repeat it always thinks "neutral" pitch is at 3 o'clock (a quarter turn above default!). No idea what that's all about...

At any rate, I've reverted to Kammerl v0.2 to avoid the feedback hanging the entire module (and the fact that I love that distortion, it's perfect for drums).

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Post by cliffemu » Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:16 am

^ I've had it freeze up like that once, so you're not the only one.

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Post by jkammerl » Mon May 01, 2017 12:43 am

Thanks for the bug report. I kept the beat repeat mode running for several hours with different settings but wasn't able to reproduce the bug. However, I went over the code and found one potential issue. Could you give this build a try and let me know if it fixes it?
http://www.kammerl.de/audio/clouds/down ... e_v032.wav
Thanks!

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Post by Bitmud » Tue May 02, 2017 3:08 pm

Hi,
I made a testrun with the revision 0.32.
Works nice so far! :tu:

For the update I used Ableton Live with 100 BPM and Expert Sleepers ES-3 directly to the Input L of the Clouds module.

I used an old skool jungle beat with 170 Bpm. Have a listen If you like:
[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/320552209" params="auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]

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Beat from Ableton via Reaktor Blocks:

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hf :banana:

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Post by jkammerl » Tue May 02, 2017 10:23 pm

Cool! That's a great sample & patch description! Thanks for testing it!

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Post by jkammerl » Fri May 05, 2017 1:40 am

Here's a preview of a new mode I'm currently adding to the firmware. It'll also bring back the "warm distortion" effect.

[video][/video]

The Spectral Clouds mode is a high-resolution multiband filter with randomly modulated frequency bands that creates cloud-like frequency spectras.

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Post by vonbeak » Fri May 05, 2017 2:35 am

Will the Spectral Clouds mode be integrated in the beat repeat effect or will it overwrite a stock effect?

*Liking where all of this is going* :love:

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Post by FadingCanvas » Fri May 05, 2017 3:40 am

jkammerl wrote:Here's a preview of a new mode I'm currently adding to the firmware. It'll also bring back the "warm distortion" effect.
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The Spectral Clouds mode is a high-resolution multiband filter with randomly modulated frequency bands that creates cloud-like frequency spectras.
I hear drone, I hear ambient :hihi:

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Post by starmandeluxe » Fri May 05, 2017 4:23 am

jkammerl wrote:Here's a preview of a new mode I'm currently adding to the firmware. It'll also bring back the "warm distortion" effect.

[video][/video]

The Spectral Clouds mode is a high-resolution multiband filter with randomly modulated frequency bands that creates cloud-like frequency spectras.
Oh my goodness! This is even better! I might be interested to use this instead of the beat repeat for my next live show...since it has the distortion too! Any chance I can get a build to test? :hihi:

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Post by Chopper » Fri May 05, 2017 5:55 pm

Jkammerl is on a roll!!! :hail:

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Post by jkammerl » Fri May 05, 2017 6:10 pm

Sorry this meant to be a PM.. still learning how to wiggle :) please ignore this post.

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Post by dudeman » Fri May 05, 2017 6:37 pm

time to get another clouds

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