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ritchiedrums


Starting to put together this system.
Power Consumption: 3201 mA +12V | 554 mA -12V | 1800 mA 5V

Having trouble finding a power supply big enough.... Metasonix!
albiedamned
RKP
ritchiedrums
and YES... the bottom row is the drum machine Mr. Green
ritchiedrums
RKP appears to be discontinued Dead Banana
JohnLRice
A big ass linear like the Bel Power Solutions HDCC-150W-AG maybe???
https://www.alliedelec.com/bel-power-solutions-hdcc-150w-ag/70005997/

It's 12V@3.4A, -12V@3.4A, 5V@12A so it's cutting it pretty close but should be OK? Or you could go with separate supplies for each rail.
metasonix
JohnLRice wrote:
A big ass linear like the Bel Power Solutions HDCC-150W-AG maybe???
https://www.alliedelec.com/bel-power-solutions-hdcc-150w-ag/70005997/

It's 12V@3.4A, -12V@3.4A, 5V@12A so it's cutting it pretty close

It is NOT "cutting it close". That is exactly the kind of supply we recommend because it's linear and can handle the tube inrush currents easily.

Quote:
RKP appears to be discontinued

IT IS NOT. Where did you get this idea??
JohnLRice
metasonix wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
A big ass linear like the Bel Power Solutions HDCC-150W-AG maybe???
https://www.alliedelec.com/bel-power-solutions-hdcc-150w-ag/70005997/

It's 12V@3.4A, -12V@3.4A, 5V@12A so it's cutting it pretty close

It is NOT "cutting it close". That is exactly the kind of supply we recommend because it's linear and can handle the tube inrush currents easily.


Yes, it IS close, at least for me to recommend for someone's system that I'm not familiar with. razz His system is spec'd at needing +12V@3.201A which is just 200mA below the max spec of the HDCC-150W-AG. Without personally taking the time to verify the amperage requirements of all the modules in the system and if they were entered into ModularGrid correctly and not knowing how accurately the manufacturers or end users determined those numbers and not knowing how each module reacts when first powered up, I'd say 200mA IS a pretty small amount of headroom.

And linear supplies have been known to have latch up problems when run close to their limits and/or when the inrush is greater on one rail and not on another. Just because it's linear doesn't mean that it can handle any inrush situation.

Anyways, the HDCC-150W-AG seemed like a good solution, that's why I recommended it, but I wasn't going to guarantee it would work.
ritchiedrums
Thanx!! Guinness ftw!

Hope to have this together by the end of the summer! nanners
metasonix
JohnLRice wrote:
Yes, it IS close, at least for me to recommend for someone's system that I'm not familiar with. razz His system is spec'd at needing +12V@3.201A which is just 200mA below the max spec of the HDCC-150W-AG.

The current ratings given in Modular Grid are from our website; they are deliberately conservative. Very few will draw that current after warmup. I expect this setup will pull less than 3A from +12 after 30 seconds.

Plus, those supplies are rated for the maximum current from all three outputs. This system is not using anywhere near the capacity of the -12 and +5 outputs. I seriously doubt the supply will "latch up".

THE GUY WHO MAKES THEM IS TELLING YOU TO USE THIS SUPPLY. Please give me some goddamn credit for experience. Or you can ask Zerosum. He's running a huge 5U tube modular from one of those supplies.
JohnLRice
metasonix meh
ritchiedrums
Eric,
Thanx for clarifying !! SlayerBadger!
You know I am one of Metasonix' BIGGEST FANS!!
In the past I had issues with power supplies & Yellow!!

I am looking forward to getting back into the tubes & theses
smaller modules look like The BEES KNEES!! Mr. Green
Guinness ftw! Metasonix!
turin horsey
Awesome setup! I'd replace one of those RK1s with an RK3 through, I'm certain you'll find a lot of ways to use it with the rest of those modules.
turin horsey
metasonix wrote:

The current ratings given in Modular Grid are from our website; they are deliberately conservative.


Really want a R55. I have 1.5a on +5v that is completely unused, no modules attached. Is there a chance that this can handle the power up of the R55? Will it fry my power supply if I give it a try?
Yes Powder
turin horsey wrote:

Really want a R55. I have 1.5a on +5v that is completely unused, no modules attached. Is there a chance that this can handle the power up of the R55? Will it fry my power supply if I give it a try?


What's the make of the power supply?
turin horsey
ElectricNoises wrote:
turin horsey wrote:

Really want a R55. I have 1.5a on +5v that is completely unused, no modules attached. Is there a chance that this can handle the power up of the R55? Will it fry my power supply if I give it a try?


What's the make of the power supply?


It's a synthrotek model: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/synthrotek-deluxe-power-module
Yes Powder
turin horsey wrote:

It's a synthrotek model: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/synthrotek-deluxe-power-module


From the Metasonix support page:
Quote:
Please DO NOT use Synthrotek supplies with Metasonix. No matter what the company claims. They won't handle the tube heater load.
turin horsey
ElectricNoises wrote:
turin horsey wrote:

It's a synthrotek model: https://www.modulargrid.net/e/synthrotek-deluxe-power-module


From the Metasonix support page:
Quote:
Please DO NOT use Synthrotek supplies with Metasonix. No matter what the company claims. They won't handle the tube heater load.


Damn. Well I've been eyeballing the new trogotronic 12u case, 10 or 20 amps provided! With patience, an r55 will be mine twisted
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