Buchla-compatible adaptations of Mutable modules

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Buchla-compatible adaptations of Mutable modules

Post by sempervirent » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:17 am

I've been working on some Buchla-compatible versions of several Mutable Instruments modules and I wanted to share the first two for feedback. Each module is getting a new PCB design with all the necessary changes to accommodate Buchla CV/audio levels, power requirements, etc.

Dual Algorithmic Oscillator is essentially two Braids in one panel (taking a slight cue from the 258). Digital Resonator is based on Rings, with some changes to allow the internal normalizations to work with banana jacks. Both of these are in development now, with others to follow.

Olivier has given his permission for this project and I'm very grateful to him for publishing his design files under an open-source license. Source files for these modules will be published under the same license (CC-BY-SA-3.0) as required.

Please comment if you're interested or have feedback... I'll be sharing more details as things take shape.

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Post by lasesentaysiete » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:36 am

very nice layouts!

I was thinking about doing something similar with Clouds. Maybe Clouds forms part of your "others to follow" comment?

I like how the mode + poly switch are cv-able on Rings. Nice touch.

Also, Tides. Olivier said somewhere that Tides and Rings are his 2 best modules. Maybe he's onto something?

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Post by Synesthesia » Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:45 am

Very nice! I like it :)

and of course i like the idea a lot ;) we have a clouds and rings in the work ourselves.

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Post by Leoespejo » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:09 am

Wow !!! really interested.....

Any option of cross-modulation inside the dual algorithmic oscillator or FM at audio rate ?

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Post by phonkmeister » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:21 am

They look very nice!
Not sure if I'd like Braids tho.
Rings and Clouds could be fine (but I have both in Euro, so I don't know how useful they would be).
Just be sure not to make the same things, you two, this market is so small… :)

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Post by JamieH » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:21 am

interested :hyper:

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Post by Synesthesia » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:41 am

Just be sure not to make the same things, you two, this market is so small…
I fully agree with you. There is no place for duplicates - but there is enough to do for us not to do the same thing ;)

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Post by missingtwin » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:46 am

Very interested
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Post by bsilverberg » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:57 am

very very interested!

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Post by sparks » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:13 am

Color me interested :hyper:

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Post by island » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:29 am

Holy shit, great idea :yay:
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Post by Don T » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:28 pm

For quite awhile now I've been toying with the idea of getting a Braids board and doing something like this. Now I hope I don't have to! Go for it!

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Post by memes_33 » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:35 pm

very cool- looking forward to having both rings & clouds in my buchla setup!

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Post by sinowhy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:36 pm

Definite interest. Rings is crucial, and your panel is gorgeous.
Aesthetic feedback? I think you are overusing the caps italics, and could use lowercase on the lower half.. your font might be just a tad too tall or light?

Also regarding layout, the mutabl faceplate lines up the attenuators with the appropriate pots, and CV input. It seems like their most intuitive layout. Where as here it seems 'brightness' and 'damping' jacks are reversed, and you will have think about it while patching.

What are the extra LEDs and switch for?

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Post by AXXONN » Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:39 pm

this could easily be what get's me to ditch Eurorack for good.

These look awesome :sb: :sb: :sb: :sb:

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Post by MATSmile » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:20 pm

Slight suggestion, add banana audio outputs to braids

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Post by synthi » Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:39 pm

Very interested!!!
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Post by sempervirent » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:03 am

Hi everyone, nice to see such a positive response! Really appreciate the comments and interest. I'll try to answer some questions / respond to feedback...
lasesentaysiete wrote:Maybe Clouds forms part of your "others to follow" comment?
A variant of Clouds (departing somewhat from the original) will definitely happen, more details soon.
lasesentaysiete wrote:Also, Tides. Olivier said somewhere that Tides and Rings are his 2 best modules. Maybe he's onto something?
Tides is probably further down the line, but it could happen too. The format could use something like Tides since Eardrill's Periodicity was seemingly shelved. Maybe two could fit into one panel (then you could run Tides and Sheep simultaneously).
Leoespejo wrote:Any option of cross-modulation inside the dual algorithmic oscillator or FM at audio rate?
Internal cross-mod between the upper/lower sections is not really feasible (you can always cross-patch) but Braids has a few different modes that handle audio-rate FM (FM, FBFM, WTFM). There's an excellent user-created manual for Braids in this thread that explains all the oscillator modes (including the quantization scales).
sinowhy wrote:I think you are overusing the caps italics, and could use lowercase on the lower half..
Fellow designer? I deliberated over this quite a bit since the 200/200e use a mix of uppercase/lowercase. Aesthetically I prefer all uppercase and most of the 200-series modules use italicized caps predominantly. This also makes the overall bouma more regular and mostly avoids descenders (lowercase g/j/q/y) which allows the spacing between a label and the associated hardware to be a little more consistent.
sinowhy wrote:Also regarding layout, the mutabl faceplate lines up the attenuators with the appropriate pots, and CV input. It seems like their most intuitive layout. Where as here it seems 'brightness' and 'damping' jacks are reversed, and you will have think about it while patching.
Good eye for detail. I did have the Brightness and Damping inputs swapped in an earlier iteration. Unlike the Eurorack version there's not a neat alignment of CV inputs and knobs. If this seems confusing in actual practice I'll consider swapping them back again.
sinowhy wrote:What are the extra LEDs and switch for?
On the Eurorack version of Rings there are four normalizations that use switching jacks (internal normalizations are disconnected by patching the input). One is the audio input, so that's easy. But the others can't be done with banana jacks alone. The switches control whether or not the Strum, Pitch, and Frequency inputs are active (they can be plugged in, but not routed to the MCU – this is the same as leaving the jacks unpatched on the Eurorack version). The LED indicates whether or not the input is active.
MATSmile wrote:Slight suggestion, add banana audio outputs to braids
Would that be for using a DC component of the output signal as a modulation source? (I'm not even sure that the Braids output is DC coupled, I'd have to check.) You could always use a cable/plug adapter or wire up a few custom cables. I was going for the precedent of the 258/259 which have multiple Tinijax outputs for the same signal. That makes it easier to do things like routing a single oscillator to a dual filter or setting up a stereo patch.

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Post by cane creek » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:45 am

Now we have micro braids i assume 2 could possibly be put behind a Euro panel ?

They do look gorgeous......... :yay:

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Post by Peake » Sat Apr 22, 2017 1:45 am

:love: :love: :love:

This is incredibly welcome.
This is not the place I'd imagined it to be.

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Post by Ginko » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:19 am

Interested - but will they carry a Buchla price tag? :deadbanana: :deadbanana: :deadbanana: :hihi:

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Post by cj3000 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:54 am

super nice and cool layouts. Very happy to see them here.

i had the same idea with clouds but got distracted by live so far...

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Post by erstlaub » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:58 am

These look so damn good I'd be tempted by euro versions of the buchla versions of the euro versions.

:hmm:

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Post by lasesentaysiete » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:59 am

erstlaub wrote:These look so damn good I'd be tempted by euro versions of the buchla versions of the euro versions.

:hmm:
those can only be found at the nexus of the universe

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Post by Ginko » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:09 am

erstlaub wrote:These look so damn good I'd be tempted by euro versions of the buchla versions of the euro versions.

:hmm:
:yay:

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