Shakmat Modular 2hp modules : SumDif and HiPass

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Shakmat Modular 2hp modules : SumDif and HiPass

Post by Bishop Dust » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:04 am

Yoow !

We went at the superbooth with new modules, here're the two tiny ones we had in our rack :cloud:

SumDif

- Dual 2 inputs adder / differentiator for CV or audio

- For example if the first input is 3v and the second output is 1v, sum output provides 4v and dif output 2v.

- Each section can be used as as a 2:1 unity mixer, a 1:2 buffered multiple or a signal inverter.

- Mid Side processing application

- Optional -6dB gain for the first section

- 2hp wide, 29mm depth

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HiPass

- 4 fixed high pass filters (butterworth response curve)

- Filters 1 and 2 : 2 poles – 30 Hz (DC remover – extreme low frequencies attenuator)

- Filters 3 and 4 : 3 poles – 100 Hz (usual Lo Cut design on mixers)

- 2hp wide, 29mm depth

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Post by g3d9 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:58 am

i like the design style on these modules very much.

Dont have much use for them in my present set-up, though i will certainly be watching to see what you release in future.
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Post by Charles_Tanios » Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:13 am

Very interested by those 2 usefull little ones.

Price and availability, please ?

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Post by Bishop Dust » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:15 am

Price : in the 80 - 90 euros range.

Availability : this summer

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Post by Charles_Tanios » Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:28 am

Great !

Thanks !

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Post by joem » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:02 pm

I'm interested! Are they going to be available as kits?

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Post by Bishop Dust » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:42 am

joem wrote:I'm interested! Are they going to be available as kits?
This is SMD so I m afraid not !

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Post by joem » Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:47 am

Ah, well, I'm still interested. I love small knob-less utilities!

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Post by MvK » Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:02 am

I've been looking for a small module to protect my speakers from blowing. In case of userfault liketoo much low frequency self oscillation of filters for example. The HP seems to be the thing, doesn't it?

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Post by tbecker » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:52 am

For the HP module, what is the attenuation level IE 12db/oct, 24db/oct ect? These both look very useful and the HP could be a nice compact way to get AC only (clearing any DC bias) in the Rubicon TZFM inputs!

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Post by Bishop Dust » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:55 am

tbecker wrote:For the HP module, what is the attenuation level IE 12db/oct, 24db/oct ect? These both look very useful and the HP could be a nice compact way to get AC only (clearing any DC bias) in the Rubicon TZFM inputs!
First two filters are 12db/oct - 30Hz and the two last ones are 18dB/Oct 100Hz

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Post by jenz » Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:02 am

Love your new modules Franky!! Keep em' commin'!! :hail: :guinness:

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Post by Bishop Dust » Tue May 02, 2017 4:35 am

jenz wrote:Love your new modules Franky!! Keep em' commin'!! :hail: :guinness:
Thanks cousin du Quebec :guinness: ! Our modules might be in a shop in Montreal in a near future :party:

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Post by jenz » Tue May 02, 2017 6:04 am

Bishop Dust wrote:
jenz wrote:Love your new modules Franky!! Keep em' commin'!! :hail: :guinness:
Thanks cousin du Quebec :guinness: ! Our modules might be in a shop in Montreal in a near future :party:
Great news! :party: :guinness:

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Re: Shakmat Modular 2hp modules : SumDif and HiPass

Post by dugoutcanoe » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:17 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:Yoow !

We went at the superbooth with new modules, here're the two tiny ones we had in our rack :cloud:

SumDif

- Dual 2 inputs adder / differentiator for CV or audio

- For example if the first input is 3v and the second output is 1v, sum output provides 4v and dif output 2v.

- Each section can be used as as a 2:1 unity mixer, a 1:2 buffered multiple or a signal inverter.

- Mid Side processing application

- Optional -6dB gain for the first section

- 2hp wide, 29mm depth

Image

HiPass

- 4 fixed high pass filters (butterworth response curve)

- Filters 1 and 2 : 2 poles – 30 Hz (DC remover – extreme low frequencies attenuator)

- Filters 3 and 4 : 3 poles – 100 Hz (usual Lo Cut design on mixers)

- 2hp wide, 29mm depth

Image
were these ever produced? :sadbanana:

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Post by Shwaj » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:32 am

Can anyone contrast the SumDif with the LRMSMSLR? Is that a tiny switch I see at the bottom right of the modules?

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Post by lisa » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:01 am

That’s part of the logo, not a switch.
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Post by tbecker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:20 am

Shwaj wrote:Can anyone contrast the SumDif with the LRMSMSLR? Is that a tiny switch I see at the bottom right of the modules?
C+D and C-D are the same as mid side or MS encoding assuming you put in something stereo such as a stereo field recording (ms or xy recording methods). So this can do the same things as the LRMS module from worng. The worng can be used as a 2:1 mixer or inverter too as they are esentially the same thing. I like this form factor a bit better and the more general approach meaning that the lrms is not imposed on the person patching.

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Post by tbecker » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:24 am

Still looking forward to both of these when they come out. Would love to hear if there are any updates to the release window!

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Post by desolationjones » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:41 pm

Shwaj wrote:Can anyone contrast the SumDif with the LRMSMSLR?
Only apparent difference: the LRMSMSLR has built-in attenuation (-6 dB) on inputs to mid encoder instead of a unity mixer so hot signals into L & R don't clip on M = L+R.

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Post by Bishop Dust » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:25 pm

The sum dif has an optional -6db attenuation accessible by jumpers on the back.

We have a little fix do to on the production. The hi pass should be packed up next week. The sum dif should be available in August.

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Post by yarderyyz » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:43 pm

Both instant buys for me if they make it into a Canadian shop! I've seriously been wish for these exact two utilities since I built my modular. Fixed highpass for DC blocking audio rate modulation, and MS has been a big part of my production style forever.

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Post by tbecker » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:24 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:The sum dif has an optional -6db attenuation accessible by jumpers on the back.

We have a little fix do to on the production. The hi pass should be packed up next week. The sum dif should be available in August.
will be adding both asap in the us! Thanks.

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Post by huffnPuff » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:10 am

I’m reserving space for both!
The adder/ subtractor is such a great idea and the DC filtering will allow me to plug the modular directly to the amp. Awesome.

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Post by Buttons ARE toys » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:53 am

Will both Analogue Haven and Modular Addict be receiving SumDif? I'm really hoping to get one of the first batch to fill the final 2hp of my case!

EDIT: It looks to me like this functions differently from LRMSMSLR. The second section of that module appears to use an averager rather than differentiator. So its first two outputs are (A+B) and (A-B), but the second two are (C+D)/2 and (C-D).

Am I understanding that correctly? And if so, how will this behave differently?

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