Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

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Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

Post by noise_not_music » Thu May 18, 2017 3:00 pm

For more Death Industrial styled noise, in the realm of stuff such as Genocide Organ, Gnawed,Puce Mary etc... Which is a better buy between the Moog Mother 32 and the Make Noise 0 Coast? They're both around the same price point so Im looking for answers based more on the actual objects themselves

PS. Ive never owed anything by Moog or Make Noise before so Im not really leaning more towards either yet

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Re: Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

Post by pstanig » Sat May 20, 2017 1:36 pm

[quote="noise_not_music"]For more Death Industrial styled noise, in the realm of stuff such as Genocide Organ, Gnawed,Puce Mary etc... Which is a better buy between the Moog Mother 32 and the Make Noise 0 Coast? They're both around the same price point so Im looking for answers based more on the actual objects themselves

PS. Ive never owed anything by Moog or Make Noise before so Im not really leaning more towards either yet[/quote]

Both GO and Puce Mary rely a lot on MS20, so consider that option if you are really after that sound. This said, I have the 0coast and it's a great machine for heavy electronics/death industrial. Not sure abt the mother, but Moog tends to sound less abrasive, I suspect.

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Re: Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

Post by noise_not_music » Sun May 21, 2017 9:25 am

pstanig wrote:Both GO and Puce Mary rely a lot on MS20, so consider that option if you are really after that sound. This said, I have the 0coast and it's a great machine for heavy electronics/death industrial. Not sure abt the mother, but Moog tends to sound less abrasive, I suspect.
I actually already have an MS20(just recently got some money to spare so I figured Id look into a new synth) so I guess I should also ask which works better along side an MS20 possibly inconjuntjon with an sq1(?) Between the 2

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Re: Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

Post by pstanig » Sun May 21, 2017 11:05 am

[quote="noise_not_music"][quote="pstanig"]Both GO and Puce Mary rely a lot on MS20, so consider that option if you are really after that sound. This said, I have the 0coast and it's a great machine for heavy electronics/death industrial. Not sure abt the mother, but Moog tends to sound less abrasive, I suspect.[/quote] I actually already have an MS20(just recently got some money to spare so I figured Id look into a new synth) so I guess I should also ask which works better along side an MS20 possibly inconjuntjon with an sq1(?) Between the 2[/quote]

Both will face the same issues interfacing with ms20, as the latter is not eurorack compliant...more of a problem for people who make little melodies than for noisemakers, I guess...my take is you won't be disappointed with 0coast, and it's less of a duplicate given you already have an analogue machine with filters etc. so you broaden more the sound palette.

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Post by Rmartel700 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:17 pm

another vote for the 0-coast, provided you don't especially need the sequencer in the mother 32. In terms of sequencing itself, the mother does have a pretty quick and enjoyable sequencer. But yea if you want harsh textures, 0 coast all the way. Sick, thick fm.

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Post by soggybag » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:39 am

Seems it's a lot about style and purpose. The 0-Coast seems the more creative inspired tool while the Moog has more features.

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Re: Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

Post by eeling » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:43 pm

my take is you won't be disappointed with 0coast, and it's less of a duplicate given you already have an analogue machine with filters etc. so you broaden more the sound palette.
Second the above :razz: you probably wouldn't be disappointed with either but 0coast but may make for more unpredictability / surprises. Also it's portability is not to be overlooked when it comes to playing shows etc.

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Post by keyofsalvador » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:49 pm

There's some serious grit to be found in the M32 IF you can incorporate some bit crushing or other fuzz to the signal, plus some suboctave action. Without additional modules or effects, it's got a rather nice, classic tone. I guess the same could be said about a lot of synths out there, but given the right dirt, that Moog filter can get really mean, but in a very pleasing way.

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Post by calaveras » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:27 am

the 0coast is more of a self patching monster. You can patch the envelope to cycle with the EOR. There is a baby Wogglebug type thing, for randomness injection. And the harmonics section make the triangle core osc more interesting.

OTOH the Moog is more solidly built, and has a self oscillating filter.
Either one is pretty good, but would be better with teh addition of a few modules, or another patchable synth like a Doepfer Dark Energy.

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Post by tross » Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:11 pm

Really depends on a style of music you are in. If you go for Industrial/Techno/Experimental, Make noise would be your best friend.

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Post by LHOOQtius » Sun May 06, 2018 2:18 am

Another vote for “0-coast and get an MS-20”

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Post by lisa » Sun May 06, 2018 2:33 am

calaveras wrote:OTOH the Moog is more solidly built
Really? Is the 0-coast poorly built somehow?
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Re: Moog Mother 32 vs Make Noise 0 Coast

Post by eddraper » Mon May 28, 2018 1:33 am

noise_not_music wrote: PS. Ive never owed anything by Moog or Make Noise before so Im not really leaning more towards either yet
I found the 0 Coast's interface bizarre and kinda a hassle to deal with (like a lot of people). I own two M32s and have thrashed them through a LOT of sounds. They're also excellent for pads and decent snappy bass. In reality it doesn't matter what we think, it's what you find cool and great that matters. If you can swing it, buy them both and return the one that doesn't meet your needs as well.

Both of the units are high quality equipment...

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Post by felixer » Mon May 28, 2018 8:59 am

i wouldn't buy either one. but get a somalabs lyra. that has distortion and a (actually two) crazy delay built in. much more suited for experimental stuff methinks. but adding a fuzzbox to any synth will make it rougher.
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Post by Cinematic » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:20 am

It all depends on what kind of music you like. A mother is basically a conventional synth with patch points, but one that will truly shine when you put FX on it. So a decent reverb should have been it it. But - in my humble opinion - it's a retro synth.

The 0-coast looks like a tiny 1 OSC synth but gives you thousands of sounds you just can't produce with any Moog because every single component (slope, noise, clock, contour, dynamics) is an oscillator on its own so in theory it can create a huge >6 voice soundscape. The dynamics part is really tight and snappy and will every VCO shine. But it doesn't have the creamy chocolate filter of the Moog. But there are plenty of ladder filters out there to make it sound like a mother. This MakeNoise video really blew me away:
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Post by snowday » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:19 pm

+1 on the 0 coast, slight learning curve, but just watch all the make noise videos on it and you'll be golden!

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Post by snowday » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:20 pm

+1 on the 0 coast, slight learning curve, but just watch all the make noise videos on it and you'll be golden!

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Post by housepig » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:27 am

nice to see Gnawed getting some love - he's been using a Mother 32 in his sets for a while now if that tips you in any direction.

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Post by naos » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:54 am

felixer wrote:i wouldn't buy either one. but get a somalabs lyra. that has distortion and a (actually two) crazy delay built in. much more suited for experimental stuff methinks. but adding a fuzzbox to any synth will make it rougher.
agreed, the Lyra is more expensive and has little CV connectivity, but seems much higher class than 0C and M32 especially for droney atonal music.

i love the 0-coast so far but i'm not sure i would recommend it to anyone for abrasive sounds (seems more oriented towards the sculpting of softer, acoustic-like stuff), much more for it's functions and power as the core of a desktop modular system.

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Post by terrymccann » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:09 am

naos wrote:i love the 0-coast so far but i'm not sure i would recommend it to anyone for abrasive sounds (seems more oriented towards the sculpting of softer, acoustic-like stuff), much more for it's functions and power as the core of a desktop modular system.
Interesting. Doesn't take much in my experience to get the 0-Coast sounding abrasive!

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Post by jdaddyaz » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:48 pm

O-Coast. Love mine, and find it more immediate than the Mother. I'm amazed at the amount of crazy shit that comes out of it, very quickly, and the range of sounds you can get with just a couple of knob turns.

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Post by luketeaford » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:29 pm

Just wanted to add the M32 can be plenty abrasive on its own with patching. I would still probably look into the MS-20 first, then the 0-Coast, then the M32, but they are all excellent synths and can make some variety of noise with a little bit of effort. :tu:

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Post by pyril » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:27 pm

Interesting no one has mentioned this yet, but my vote goes to the behringer neutron. Crazy industrial machine.

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Post by jeffclermont » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:09 pm

I own the 0-coast, it can create a lot of weird noises. With effects pedals, this thing is just crazy. This performance is not noise or industrial, but I really like the drone she creates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLS9UZ1VP2I

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Post by JM Midnight » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:32 pm

Old thread, I know, but have you ever considered the Minibrute 2? It's built with Eurorack in mind, has a solid Steiner-Parker filter and these effects like the Metalizer and Brute factor. If you get the 2/s version, that has an arpeggiator and multiple sequencing capabilities. I can get some harsh rhythms and beats out of it.

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