New modes for the E352 Cloud Terrarium

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Post by JC14 » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:59 am

Does the E352 come with a memory card? Just wondering since mine didn't...

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Post by loorenz » Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:31 am

JC14 wrote:Does the E352 come with a memory card? Just wondering since mine didn't...
No micro SD card included with my E352 too.

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Post by mdoudoroff » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:11 am

JC14 wrote:Does the E352 come with a memory card? Just wondering since mine didn't...
Nope. Nor does it need one to operate.

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Post by tau_seti » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:21 pm

I've got the new firmware loaded and am trying to figure out how detune mode works.

I have read the manual, but still have questions.

When I go to the visual displays, I see CTS in the legend under the graphics. What are CTS?

What is the difference between x and y Parma in this mode?

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Post by mgscheue » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:03 am

CTS is the amount of detune, in cents. Notice how it changes continuously when you vary the x parameter in smooth mode but jumps in steps of 100 in 12-tone mode. An equal-tempered semitone is 100 cents.

X controls the amount of detune, Y the wavetable that is fixed in pitch, and Z the wavetable that's detuned relative to Y.

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Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:12 am

paults wrote:
paults, I think it would be nice to have those detune tables available in the pitch section of the E370 some day. Handy.
Maybe not exactly, but.....[cough]
From Facebook, yesterday:

paul: “We are 'helping' make it easier by placing standard detuning intervals into the default Chord Table.”

eric: “And allowing the X/Y inputs to drive FM so you can dial in a detune from the panel pots.”

paul: “Chord Mode + new FM Offset mapping. Will have code week after Thanksgiving”

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Post by tau_seti » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:38 pm

mgscheue wrote:CTS is the amount of detune, in cents. Notice how it changes continuously when you vary the x parameter in smooth mode but jumps in steps of 100 in 12-tone mode. An equal-tempered semitone is 100 cents.

X controls the amount of detune, Y the wavetable that is fixed in pitch, and Z the wavetable that's detuned relative to Y.
Thanks, that really helps.

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Loving the new detune mode!

Post by dp » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:35 am

The main melodic line is e352 being fed two different sequences from Voltage Block

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Re: Loving the new detune mode!

Post by zerodivide » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:19 pm

dp wrote:The main melodic line is e352 being fed two different sequences from Voltage Block

[video][/video]
your rack looks so similar to mine! albeit double the size heh. nice stuff. But wait how are you feeding 2 melodies to e352? Im not following

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Post by Eurtrude » Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:41 pm

zerodivide wrote:
dp wrote:The main melodic line is e352 being fed two different sequences from Voltage Block

[video][/video]
your rack looks so similar to mine! albeit double the size heh. nice stuff. But wait how are you feeding 2 melodies to e352? Im not following
I guess he is sending one melody to normal pitch CV and an other one to the X input in detune mode, so you can sequence the offset of osc 2 :)

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Re: Loving the new detune mode!

Post by dp » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:59 pm

Yeah exactly one into v/octave other into x think the detune was in harmonic setting.

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Post by brandonlogic » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:27 pm

I sent this to paul but thought i'd post here too.
How about adding a looping on/off option to the other current modes? Or at least morph? The sample player can be fun, but to use as a one shot envelop, it can be very hard to dial what you need. I’d like to simply be able to use waveforms from a wavetables bank as one shots. For example, these waveforms would make great envelopes, to dial them in just right in sample mode is a real pain, plus the cv position not very useful when using it this way. if you could simply turn looping mode off in morph mode, it would be a much better way, plus add the ability to smoothy morph the envelope!

would be grate for wavetables especially designed for envelope use!

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Post by denuir » Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:39 pm

Figured it out after additional searching. Thanks

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Post by zerodivide » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:03 pm

Haven't gotten a chance to load the new firmware (need to buy an SD card heh) so I haven't really looked into the detune thing yet. I just assumed detuning was changing the cents of Osc 1 vs Osc 2. you can actually change semitones?

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Post by mgscheue » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:15 pm

Yep! The options are smooth (continuously variable), fourths fifths and octaves, 12-tone (semitones), and harmonic series. There’s also uni-phase, which unison—no detuning, but phase shifting, instead.

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Re: Loving the new detune mode!

Post by Jumbuktu » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:44 pm

dp wrote:The main melodic line is e352 being fed two different sequences from Voltage Block
Love the polyrhythms on this. Rather TDreamesque!

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Post by lionelfischer » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:50 pm

brandonlogic wrote:I sent this to paul but thought i'd post here too.
How about adding a looping on/off option to the other current modes? Or at least morph? The sample player can be fun, but to use as a one shot envelop, it can be very hard to dial what you need. I’d like to simply be able to use waveforms from a wavetables bank as one shots. For example, these waveforms would make great envelopes, to dial them in just right in sample mode is a real pain, plus the cv position not very useful when using it this way. if you could simply turn looping mode off in morph mode, it would be a much better way, plus add the ability to smoothy morph the envelope!

would be grate for wavetables especially designed for envelope use!

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this sounds like a good idea b

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Post by zerodivide » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:47 pm

curious what envelopes and VCAs you guys are feeding your e352s into. I've been using the 0-coast's Countour to shape the e352 into plucky sounds in dual OP FM mode but I feel I need a dedicated envelope generator now for it

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Post by catchin » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:12 pm

zerodivide wrote:curious what envelopes and VCAs you guys are feeding your e352s into. I've been using the 0-coast's Countour to shape the e352 into plucky sounds in dual OP FM mode but I feel I need a dedicated envelope generator now for it
The Rossum Electro Control Forge was installed alongside my E-352. It's an amazing way to manipulate all the sound dimensions in the Cloud Terrarium. I owned a E-340 before this, and honestly the E-352 is exactly what SynthTech was missing. They've nailed it as far as an osc is concerned.

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Post by Pighood » Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:15 pm

Just pulled the trigger on a 352 from Detroit Modular (h/t to Trent).

Do the ones being assembled/shipped at this point come with 1.3?
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Post by Dragonaut » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:16 am

You could call him back and ask him. They might even update it for you if it isn’t already.
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Post by Pighood » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:09 am

I mean I pre-ordered a unit that has yet to be shipped to DM.
*phnert*

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Post by Mndscrpt » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:41 am

zerodivide wrote:curious what envelopes and VCAs you guys are feeding your e352s into.
I recieved my optomix yesterday, both outs run into it. Sounds super organic and strong! The vca of my Borg 2 wasn't that pleasing. Classic ADDAC 802 also sound solid, not so plucky but great for longer basslines and such. :guinness:
As env i used maths so far and malekko quad Envelope. It will be replaced with zadar, really excited for this combination!

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Post by paults » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:00 am

I mean I pre-ordered a unit that has yet to be shipped to DM.
Yes, it will have V1.3 installed.

I will be shipping to Detroit Modular their E352s around Tuesday of next week. So, depending on THE AMAZON CLOG EFFECT, it may arrive to you a few days after Christmas.

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Post by Pighood » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:40 am

Wheeeeee wavedoggieeeeeez :fap:
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