New modes for the E352 Cloud Terrarium

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Post by brandonlogic » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:18 am

Thanks to whoever uploaded the plaits wavetables to wave edit.
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Post by Eurtrude » Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:18 am

Hello there,

I have a feature request for the E352, but I don't know if this is doable...

Could it be possible to make an option to address the FM input to only one oscillator ? It could be done by adding a line in the Frequency-Quantize menu, where you could choose the FM destination : both, osc1 or osc 2.

With this option, we could use osc2 output in Dual Detune mod to modulate the osc 1 only via the FM input, while using those detune scales to pitch osc2 relatively to osc1.
Also would permit to do FM on osc1 while having osc2 making a non-fm'ed sub in this same mode, etc.

That could be so awesome :) (at least for me...)

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Post by geremyf » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:53 am

I think you'd need an e370 for that.

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Post by skreetis » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:02 pm

I’ve never really played around with my E352’s lfo mode until now, and it’s not behaving how I would expect it to at all. The range is set to low, yet the slowest it will go is just slightly under audio rate with the course, fine, and FM knobs at 0. The frequency page will say that the cycle is several seconds (or minutes) long, but the output is definitely not that slow. It works fine otherwise, as far as I can tell, so I assume there’s some form of user error. Am I missing something?

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Post by Pighood » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:05 pm

I NEVER use the 352 as an LFO...since I retained the services of my E-350, it takes on those duties superbly.
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Post by emeb » Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:34 am

skreetis wrote:I’ve never really played around with my E352’s lfo mode until now, and it’s not behaving how I would expect it to at all. The range is set to low, yet the slowest it will go is just slightly under audio rate with the course, fine, and FM knobs at 0. The frequency page will say that the cycle is several seconds (or minutes) long, but the output is definitely not that slow. It works fine otherwise, as far as I can tell, so I assume there’s some form of user error. Am I missing something?
The frequency page is driven directly from what the internal oscillator is running. If you see faster oscillation that what's indicated on the frequency page then the first thing I'd suspect is that the waveform you're using is more complex than a basic sine/tri/saw/square and you're seeing the additional wiggles due to that.

Please try low range with the simplest possible waveforms and see if that helps.

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Post by skreetis » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:19 am

emeb wrote: The frequency page is driven directly from what the internal oscillator is running. If you see faster oscillation that what's indicated on the frequency page then the first thing I'd suspect is that the waveform you're using is more complex than a basic sine/tri/saw/square and you're seeing the additional wiggles due to that.

Please try low range with the simplest possible waveforms and see if that helps.
Thanks for your suggestion. I gave it a try with a sine and it was still what I would consider to be middle-high speed. But, on a hunch, I checked out the FM setting on the frequency quantize page, and it was set to LIN H. I set it to EXPO and it is much slower now, in the range one would expect an LFO to go to. Kind of strange behavior, considering nothing was plugged into the FM jack, but hey, at least it works now!

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Post by starthief » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:08 pm

Are you on the latest firmware? Did you try the FM quantization option? There's a small amount of inherent DC offset in the FM input, but the firmware can compensate for it pretty well.

Also Lin H is pretty extreme I find, and Lin M offers a nice wide usable range for most purposes.

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Post by emeb » Sun Sep 08, 2019 5:49 pm

OK - having FM set to Lin H will definitely cause the problem you mentioned. We created Lin H mode for crazy-wild modulation and as Starthief said it's got a pretty serious offset which will cause a large skew of the period in LFO mode. Lin M and Lin L or Expo modes are a better choice for accurate low frequency operation.

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Post by dooj88 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:29 pm

Pighood wrote:I NEVER use the 352 as an LFO...since I retained the services of my E-350, it takes on those duties superbly.
feel scummy shilling my own videos, but LFO in cloud mode with the chaos parameters can give some pretty cool shit

[video][/video]

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Post by Pighood » Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:05 pm

Just for feces and guffaws bung a Maths into the mix :hihi:
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Post by tenembre » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:02 pm

What is the pitch resolution of the V/Oct input of the e352?

I would be using it for microtuned scales and want to make sure that it's not overly quantizing the pitch input.

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Post by emeb » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:37 pm

tenembre wrote:What is the pitch resolution of the V/Oct input of the e352?

I would be using it for microtuned scales and want to make sure that it's not overly quantizing the pitch input.
Resolution is about 2.4mV, or roughly 3 cents

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Post by tenembre » Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:39 pm

Thank you. That's coarser than I was hoping.

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FM sequences

Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:18 am

[video][/video]

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Post by dooj88 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:23 pm

first two minutes sound like a tom waits track on mushrooms

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Post by Bob Borries » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:35 pm

I revised this chart to include Version 1.4 Modes (Sample Player and Detune Mode).

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Enjoy

http://www.vo1t.com/Euro/Illustrated/E- ... Manual.pdf

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Post by Scott M2 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:27 pm

Nice! Thanks Bob.

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Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:37 pm

[quote="Bob Borries"]I revised this chart to include Version 1.4 Modes

Great work.

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Post by dooj88 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:50 pm

and i'm just now realizing that sample player mode can be a syncable one shot lfo/wonky envelope. sweeet!! i was only thinking in terms of audio, like "why would i want that?"

very well done bob!

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Post by Bob Borries » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:59 pm

dooj88 wrote:and i'm just now realizing that sample player mode can be a syncable one shot lfo/wonky envelope.
Thanks for this idea, It didn't occur to me that you could use it as an envelope, and fooling with the start point for velocity and the rate of envelope with 1v/Oct input.

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Post by paults » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:32 pm

What are some squares in yellow?

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Post by Bob Borries » Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:30 pm

paults wrote:What are some squares in yellow?
Output 1 is yellow, Output 2 is purple, the yellow squares indicate that the knob changes Output 1.

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The Thing In The Closet

Post by Sweetfiltersweep » Fri Dec 13, 2019 1:41 pm

Some creepy sounds from the mighty E352. :cthulhu:

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Re: New modes for the E352 Cloud Terrarium

Post by bemushroomed » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:06 pm

In the WaveEdit program. It says 0-252 for the waveform. Is this the number of samples? If i recall correctly its supposed to be 256, so i guess its something else perhaps.

Does anyone know how to check how many samples a .wav file is (like a program or similar).. I have Soundforge and i haven't figured it out, maybe its not possible in that program but its seems strange. This is not easy to google unfortunately, sample gives way too many hits (obviously) even in the manual its too many hits to really go through it all.

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