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Using Compression in live modular settings
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RGB
Is anyone using compression in live eurorack settings? I was side chaining the bass drum in my set up for a while and then moved over to a more stereo oriented work flow and was wondering if anyone thinks it is worthwhile and HP to use stereo mix bus compression or any other suggestions someone might have in getting the drums to punch through the mix
ersatzplanet
For me, and for the type of music I typically make, the main use of compression is with very high ratios settings, used as a hard limiter. This is mainly to act as a "speaker saver" for the PA I will be using.
notmiserlouagain
ersatzplanet wrote:
For me, and for the type of music I typically make, the main use of compression is with very high ratios settings, used as a hard limiter. This is mainly to act as a "speaker saver" for the PA I will be using.

Yes, I have used simple RNLA for that with good results.

Much more important to get the sound ok via PA and speakers.

If you play stuff like this, a compressor might come in handy too:
felixer
ersatzplanet wrote:
For me, and for the type of music I typically make, the main use of compression is with very high ratios settings, used as a hard limiter. This is mainly to act as a "speaker saver" for the PA I will be using.

this is a good reason ... getting a pa with mucho reserve is even better.
ster
Instead of compression, I've always tended to use just a slight bit of saturation on the amplitude peaks, also functioning as a "speaker saver" to tame the transients. I feel that compressors on certain synthesizer signal types make it a bit too "grabby".
snakejaw
I often use a compressor before and after my Sherman Filterbank. Before to even out the incoming signal when I want the FB to be more "controlled". After to save my ears, headphones, speakers when I inadvertently turn a knob and it creates and explosion (!)
Hainbach
I use the Bugbrand Stereo compress to both save speakers and shape the sound. For the powwow live streams I organize in Berlin we have one on the mixer to protect from clipping. I found the Bugbrand so essential that I won't play without it.
mt3
Two compressors: fast for transients and slow opticalesque for smoothing.
Mindset to have is you're in a pseudo-mastering environment while working on a mix live in real-time.
durwin
I like two styles: one for hard popping drums (alla Idioteque) and one to just gently squeeze the whole mix in to place.
The Grump
I slap a dbx 166 into the master insert as a speaker saver. Makes the house engineers breathe easier.
slumberjack
i take a alesis nanocomp used for 40$ with me to the gigs and use it as a limiter, so that i don't have to worry about going wild on the cutoff. actually i like to take the fmr rnc with me too to gompress the master out befor the limiter, it's nice on high transients i think, but try to keep my live setup as small as possible.
noisejockey
For playing live in a venue, yes, every time. RNLA or the Kompressor Eurorack module. I use a MSCL in my drum rack but that's for tone and dynamics, not protecting the audience.

For playing live in the studio, never. If you overcompress, it's unrecoverable. For studio work just record at 24 bit and give yourself oodles of headroom. No need to record hot. If you are tracking to tape, it's a little different; then you really need to rehearse to test your levels, set bias carefully, and decide how hard to hit the tape.
mousegarden
I use one of these, across the modular mix buss, it's there all the time, not for any creative reasons, I don't know why this compressor is revered in some circles, it just sounds like what goes through it on "sensible" settings, I just inherited the thing.
I use it on 2.5 ratio, medium/low threshold, medium attack and release, no limiting. Just stops my modular from peaking out.

The Grump
Lucky bastard. That IS a nice compressor.
mousegarden
The Grump wrote:
Lucky bastard. That IS a nice compressor.


Ha Ha! Well, it looks nice! It's quite smooth, sort of effortless if that makes sense. I have a few other cheap comps and they sound a bit pinched in comparison, they aern't that expensive here in the UK you can get them for £150/£200.
noisejockey
Now's a great time to remind the world that Tom's got more Bugbrand Stereo Compressors available in his shop! Hainbach is a huge fan, they're intense little beasts!
mousegarden
noisejockey wrote:
Now's a great time to remind the world that Tom's got more Bugbrand Stereo Compressors available in his shop! Hainbach is a huge fan, they're intense little beasts!


Very tempting!

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