What my modular goes through...

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:37 pm

Hey guys,
What I'm doing here is writing the song and then going back and tracking a number of things:

a) Syncing the modular with the computer by sending metronome pulses in Logic to the external clock in on my A-154. This is for sequenced parts and whatever needs to be in time with the track.
b) Using a Cwejman VM-1 through a A-137 Wave Multiplier as the bass track. I don't like the way bass guitars sound for many reasons.
c) Creating drones for intro, outro and ... well all over the place.

A lot of the parts are subtle and create a complimentary effect.
This track was part of a compilation that ended up falling through. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it quite yet but I'm sure it'll end up on an EP.

Let me know if you have questions!

http://www.thedeepelement.com/Surachai-Perpetuate.mp3

zerosum · Post by **zerosum** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:34 pm

HOLY FUCK!!!!
I'm speechless right now, I have to listen to it a 3rd time now!

felix · Post by **felix** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:16 pm

Nice dude!!!

As always, I'm really impressed by your drum programming.

dkcg · Post by **dkcg** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:25 pm

excellent!

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:39 pm

Thanks for the compliments fellas.

Hitchu wit a fish!

parasitk · Post by **parasitk** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:17 pm

Cool track.

JohnLRice · Post by **JohnLRice** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:42 pm

Kick ass stuff!

I've only listened 2 times so far but I was wanting to hear the guitars drier/crisper and more in my face, at least during the first half or so. When they come in around 3:10 I like 'em better.

Excellent work!

spbaker · Post by **spbaker** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:33 pm

felix wrote:I'm really impressed by your drum programming.

i concur! wicked stuff as always

Soy Sos · Post by **Soy Sos** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:45 pm

Great stuff, not at all generic. Really interesting arrangements. Love it.....
Is it OK if I don't use emoticons? Fucking Awesome.

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:50 pm

Thanks guys. Emoticons are required in this thread!! :bananallama:

Soy Sos · Post by **Soy Sos** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:53 pm

OK......

:ninjacat:

Bricks · Post by **Bricks** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:32 am

Im not a connoisseur of heavier stuff, but goddamn Ive never heard anything quite like that. awesome. brutal. usually, heavy tunes with synth just sound cheese to me, but you do a killer job

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:48 am

usually, heavy tunes with synth just sound cheese to me

I know exactly what you mean! I've rarely, if ever, heard synths being used effectively in metal. The only band I've seen use it according to their sound is Joseph Karam from a band called The Locust who sports a nice MOTM setup. Anyways I'm still not sure if mine is 'effective' but I think it sits well.

wetterberg · Post by **wetterberg** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:31 pm

I need to hear this one again - bangin'! I love the sequence that comes in at 2:20 and flips around with the meter of the song.
I would have done the mix slightly differently, but this is VERY FUCKING HARD!

justmcg · Post by **justmcg** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:56 pm

Oh, Hai!

Surachai, can I please remix this song?

I'll make it clubable. you know, 909 and all.

felix · Post by **felix** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:34 pm

Jort McGort!!!

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:05 pm

How would you guys mix this differently? It's by no means finalized.

Surachai, can I please remix this song?

Justin, I hope you burn in hell!!

Worst. First. Post. Ever. Haha!

wetterberg · Post by **wetterberg** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:09 pm

surachai wrote:How would you guys mix this differently? It's by no means finalized.

There's a rather large "oomph-hole" (oo-er!) in the low range, like 400-800 hz. This may be intentional, but sounds like it's been notched out quite brutally.

but hey, this is totally nitpicking - I love it and it's ipod-bound any way you roll it.

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:26 pm

There's a rather large "oomph-hole" (oo-er!) in the low range, like 400-800 hz.

You're totally right! That's crazy.

this is totally nitpicking

If we weren't nitpickers of some sort, I doubt we'd be on this forum.

I can't say that it was intentional but rather I do it by ear and it sounds strange to me when I bump up frequencies to fill up holes. To me, that space is traditionally reserved for vocals or drum emphasis. I'll see if I can fill it in with an instrument rather than fudging eq. Thanks so much for pointing out that hole! Maybe it stays maybe it goes!

Cybananna · Post by **Cybananna** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:20 am

sounds good! I like it.

flight · Post by **flight** » Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:20 am

Damn good track! Crushing and brutal, I love it.

pink · Post by **pink** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:09 pm

I really like this. It's got a really punishing almost Come to Daddy vibe to it. A little more metal and less glitchy, not a terrible thing.

Mixing/sound choice wise I think the drums sound a bit stuck in between trying-to-be-live sounding metal drums and average sounding midi/drum machine stuff. The programming is perfect but I would want to spend a bit more time on making them either sound more bombastic and live or more glitchy and percolating (rather than stuck in the middle).

I love the bass, makes me want a VM-1 and A-137 (and someone to tell me what they are and show me how to use them) NOW!

Vocals louder. I know it's screaming death/mood/textures and all that. I would still like them to cut a bit more.

What can I say, it's better than any of my stuff.

Got any more?

surachai · Post by **surachai** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 5:50 pm

Instrumental plague metal
Modular landscapes
and a compilation on Cock Rock Disco / Fathme
http://www.thedeepelement.com/surachai

More stuff coming out later!

MUFF WIGGLER

MUFF WIGGLER

What my modular goes through...

What my modular goes through...