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Tokyo getting a sneak at new IME
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Author Tokyo getting a sneak at new IME
hawkfuzz
https://www.facebook.com/industrialmusicelectronics/photos/a.158623363 4730990.1073741828.136766986344336/1601082893246064/?type=3&theater

Looks like some of the potential modules got redesigned...or perhaps...these are never before seen ideas...?

Really hoping that grey panel is the Escalation Dominance. Kind looks like "mute" under the button...but it's probably not. Black panel is the mystery 4th module from the picture in the last new module thread I made.

BLAH.
Baddcr
From the comments:

Rupert Cross Please please please be a Tyme Sefari mk2 firmware update...
2 · 15 September at 12:24
Industrial Music Electronics
Industrial Music Electronics working on it. it's closer to a complete rewrite but it'll be worth the wait!
6 · 15 September at 15:12

Now to work out how to update the Tyme Sefari ready for when this drops - it's different to the others right?
mt3

Tokyo Eyes.
dysonant
So any guesses as to what these are? The black one on the right looks like an update to Contempt. It has pretty much the same number of jack, knobs and LEDs. Bu the one just to the left of that, I have no idea.
mt3
Guesses:
* Tempco Buffered Mult
* Apocryphal Hope Eradicator
* Monster Cable Purity Evaluator (matched stereo pair)
* Boutique Flower Bouquet Shredder
* Random Bad Guess Generator
screaming goo yo
hawkfuzz
I was hoping there'd be a reveal soon
mt3
Escalation Dominance would be nice.
mt3
Contempt on the right.

The prototype one beside it has me baffled. It's a hybrid of a few existing modules: PHmk2, SHmk2, HDmk2/Kermit...
Plus looks like a knob in the middle of the unit is set atop a large pushbutton???
seriously, i just don't get it
mt3
So on the Escalator Dominator page on modulargrid:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/the-harvestman-escalation-dominance-

Escalation Dominance "is expandable by Vindication, which adds six attenuate/offset controls to the CV inputs - frees up the main unit's inputs as dedicated envelope triggers (works standalone), and Contempt, which adds metering and dynamics processing to the stereo output (also works standalone)."

Homicide Censor is what I'm really wishing for.
dysonant
mt3 wrote:
Guesses:
* Tempco Buffered Mult
* Apocryphal Hope Eradicator
* Monster Cable Purity Evaluator (matched stereo pair)
* Boutique Flower Bouquet Shredder
* Random Bad Guess Generator
screaming goo yo


lol

I am officially stumped. I'm pretty sure it's not the Vindication, nothing about it really says six attenuate/offset controls to me. I tried looking at it as a potential complete redesign of the Bionic Lester MKII, but nothing really matches up there. SO I am left thinking it is something entirely new. My guess is some kind of weird multistage envelope generator.

Wonder why IME is not going to be at Machines in Music? Third year, no attendance.
hawkfuzz
Suspicious if it is the Contempt on the right with the words next to the leds. That makes me think it’s for modes and not level indication.

Really want Escalation Dominance but unless he changed the design, the left one is four channels so I don’t think it’d be it, but he could have condensed the design.
dysonant
hawkfuzz wrote:
Suspicious if it is the Contempt on the right with the words next to the leds. That makes me think it’s for modes and not level indication.

Good eye. Also, now that you've got looking at it again, why is there an encoder? There are also two sliders. Now I am confused about this one too.

Quote:

Really want Escalation Dominance but unless he changed the design, the left one is four channels so I don’t think it’d be it, but he could have condensed the design.


I m not sure about the one on the left being four channels. I think what ever it is, it is either one channel or two. Maybe Stereo.
hawkfuzz
What modules are in the pipeline?

Escalation dominance
BL 2
DA expander
SH expander
Contempt
Homicide Censor
Vindication

We know what a few look like...dunno. Come on November
mt3
That's all I know of.
Futuresound
The black one looks like it says 'Inputs', 'Level', and 'CV', so some kind of VCA.

And it could well say 'Outputs' below the two jacks bottom right.

So some kind of stereo output?

But what's the encoder all about I wonder?

[edit] I'm dumb, that's all been suggested and discussed for Contempt...
ether
hawkfuzz wrote:

Escalation dominance
BL 2
DA expander
SH expander
Contempt
Homicide Censor
Vindication


There's also Red Falcon, which is the updated Evin 209. Status unknown, and doubt its any of the ones in the pic above.
Futuresound
hawkfuzz wrote:
Suspicious if it is the Contempt on the right with the words next to the leds. That makes me think it’s for modes and not level indication.


Compression modes....
adamon
ether wrote:
hawkfuzz wrote:

Escalation dominance
BL 2
DA expander
SH expander
Contempt
Homicide Censor
Vindication


There's also Red Falcon, which is the updated Evin 209. Status unknown, and doubt its any of the ones in the pic above.


There are those who still wait for volkmires inferno among us Dead Banana
hawkfuzz
Damn wonder if he's abandoned any of the ventures considering sneak peaks can come way before the release and out of order of anything else. Definitely seems to be doing more now he has a team.
mt3
Don't forget the Maelekko collabo...
Baddcr
BLmk][ will basically fill my Harvestman case... with just a few hp for what I consider essential guest modules, well, just the Radio Music next to the Tyme Sefari!

Do all these new modules mean I am going to have to get another case hmmm.....
adamon
Where our Tokyo friends at... seriously, i just don't get it
mt3
adamon wrote:
Where our Tokyo friends at... seriously, i just don't get it


Looks like it's the 18th/19th? Of November?...
Dead Banana
richc90
Could Escalation Dominance now be four channels? That sliver cable looks like an audio output...
hawkfuzz
That’s what I was thinking. It wouldn’t be surprising in effort to save hp. Maybe....
richc90
Actually, maybe it's something involving a four stage envelope generator: Four sliders, and the second one seems to have a D next to it...
hawkfuzz
Well the ED is supposed to have envelopes on it so I wouldn't rule it out.
dysonant
So, this is happening this weekend right? Do we know if anyone is going to be there to report back?
hyena
Andore adsr!
ether
Pics anywhere?
dysonant


Found here https://www.facebook.com/MODULATION.jp/photos/a.357702214657679.107374 1829.262761294151772/371023273325573/?type=3&theater

Can't find anything else on the other ones.
mt3
Damn. What be?
mt3
Andore
4 stage envelope with VCA and LPG.
dysonant
This does confuse me a little. Isn't the main use of an LPG to hit it with a gate and it has it's own slope and natural curve? Why would you need anADSR & LPG? So, I am thinking that maybe there will be more than one use simultaneously. What do you all think?
ether
Fingers crossed for vactrols Guinness ftw!
hawkfuzz
Looks like there's a mode switch. Maybe variations of ADSR and perhaps a LPG mode...who knows?

Where's the other ones?!
wireangel
Damn...gonna need 2.
Sinamsis
Oh, I missed that... I was just thinking I'd love to see the Harvestman take on an LPG, and that's a big gap in the Harvestman system.

An ADSR envelope and LPG does seem a little bizarre on principal, but that's one of the several features of Streams and it's nice to have the choice of either in a single module. To me, it looks like this module might be both at the same time. There are ADSR controls for the envelope and shape and decay controls which I presume to be for the LPG. Mode and cycle I presume applies to the ADSR. Maybe mode is something like slow, medium, fast speed. There's a 1v/oct which I guess will be used to control the cycling ADSR.

Looking at this, it seems that the Double Andore is to Maths what this will be to Function. Except cooler haha.

I just filled almost 168 hp with Harvestman modules already. If he keeps these coming, I'm going to have to build a dedicated case sooner rather than later.

As an aside, has anyone heard anything about the BL II???? This one is the one I'm most anxiously anticipating.
governor blacksnake
Dynamics are the name of the game here. The LPG is a VCA-based circuit (fwiw it's analog), but since you've got the shape control and a 4-stage envelope you may dial in an imitation of whatever *other circuit* behavior you like. The mode button does the expected VCA/LPF/both switching. There is a 2-input unity gain mixer on the VCA. It has character.

Andore is a dual envelope (dedicated trigger ins and env outs, shared controls. Envelope 2 is accessed by holding a button down and modifying the desired controls.) The shape control is a crossfade between linear and RC responses (log attack, expo decay). The velocity control has a dedicated CV input. It controls the overall height of the envelope voltage. Since it's shared between two envelopes, the velocity value is sampled at the start of each envelope trigger (mysteron style). There is also a single general purpose CV input, assignable to any of the env stages or the shape control. The envelope mode button switches from ADSR to ADSD (with the fourth slider acting as the sustain time control) to AHD to AD (self cycling). CV inputs are shared between the envelopes but the attenuverters and destinations may differ. Nobody's forcing you to use the second envelope.

Trimmers are provided to tweak the linearity of the VCA in combo mode and to add a small amount of resonance to the filter. There is an analog VCA CV input and a dedicated attenuverter for sending Envelope 1 to the VCA.

Andore is designed to quickly and conveniently provide voice control to any sound source, and offer further modulation opportunities. Relax, it's supposed to be this simple. Offered as an alternative to the large/cranky/expensive Double Andore.
ignatius
governor blacksnake wrote:
Dynamics are the name of the game here. The LPG is a VCA-based circuit (fwiw it's analog), but since you've got the shape control and a 4-stage envelope you may dial in an imitation of whatever *other circuit* behavior you like. The mode button does the expected VCA/LPF/both switching. There is a 2-input unity gain mixer on the VCA. It has character.

Andore is a dual envelope (dedicated trigger ins and env outs, shared controls. Envelope 2 is accessed by holding a button down and modifying the desired controls.) The shape control is a crossfade between linear and RC responses (log attack, expo decay). The velocity control has a dedicated CV input. It controls the overall height of the envelope voltage. Since it's shared between two envelopes, the velocity value is sampled at the start of each envelope trigger (mysteron style). There is also a single general purpose CV input, assignable to any of the env stages or the shape control. The envelope mode button switches from ADSR to ADSD (with the fourth slider acting as the sustain time control) to AHD to AD (self cycling). CV inputs are shared between the envelopes but the attenuverters and destinations may differ. Nobody's forcing you to use the second envelope.

Trimmers are provided to tweak the linearity of the VCA in combo mode and to add a small amount of resonance to the filter. There is an analog VCA CV input and a dedicated attenuverter for sending Envelope 1 to the VCA.

Andore is designed to quickly and conveniently provide voice control to any sound source, and offer further modulation opportunities. Relax, it's supposed to be this simple. Offered as an alternative to the large/cranky/expensive Double Andore.


this sounds great. well spec'd flexible device. can't wait to try it out. smile
Sinamsis
Indeed, that sounds fantastic. I recently bought a Double Andore but this would be a welcome addition.
Baddcr
Anyone got any ideas about how to make modules shrink a bit or my Harvestman case grow a bit? waah
mt3


Here's a driveby by SynthAnatomy. Starts at 5m55s.
hawkfuzz
...and at at 5m58s.

I guess those other modules were proof of concept since he didn't bring them.
mt3
hawkfuzz wrote:
...and at at 5m58s.

I guess those other modules were proof of concept since he didn't bring them.


...or they're in a portable beauty case handcuffed to Guv...
hawkfuzz
Anyone able to figure out the HP on this?
Villarceau
hawkfuzz wrote:
Anyone able to figure out the HP on this?


15 HP according to ModularGrid and also what I see on the video shot at Namm2017.

EDIT: Sorry got it wrong. No sources for that. I thought this was the bionic mkII thread..
hawkfuzz
Where on MG? Didnt see it.
Villarceau
Oops wrong thread oops
All wrong..
screaming goo yo
mt3
Villarceau wrote:
Oops wrong thread oops
All wrong..
screaming goo yo


It sort of is the BLmk][ thread, as well as any other surprises...
screaming goo yo
richc90
Looks like 12HP judging from the King Slender and Kermit under it?
krunkleKick
Just found this video from the event:

mt3
krunkleKick wrote:
Just found this video from the event:


Good find.

Andore
- has features not available on DAmk2
- actually 2 envelopes, not one
- velocity control of envelopes
- 3 VCA modes (plain VCA, 2-pole LPF + VCA, 2-pole LPF)
- shipping Jan 2018

Also mentioned were many other digital surprises for 2018.
Sinamsis
There needs to be a BL MK II surprise for 2018. Just saying.
ignatius
little teaser on instagram.. probably more at namm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd1A11Fhxsv/?taken-by=industrialmusicelect ronics
Sinamsis
I heard something about a new PH, thought it was a joke. Ha, hmm. I really am going to end up with a completely Harvestman case eventually.
mt3
Damn.
deltaAquarii
ui, andore is nice. really looking forward for that one.
hope its not tooo steep in price.
wireangel
Anyone heard any more on this? Was hoping to be able to pick a couple up when they release.
Sinamsis
Ha, I'm anxiously awaiting this one too. And/or all of them honestly. Do we have a confirmed size on this yet? Trying to plan ahead. And has anyone heard anything about another modulation module in the vein of Kermit?
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