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The Bestest of Pings?
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southphillysynths
I have been super interested in the sounds of pinging filters recently. I have a benjolin and love the ringing of the filter. I also had the chance to hear a Klangbau Koln Twinpeak filter and that was the greatest pings I had ever heard!

I also had a Serge VCFQ and that also had pretty good pings.

What are your favorites?? In which format do you find some of the greatest pings?
diophantine
VCFQ!

I'll have to try pinging the Twin Peak in my Hordijk system. I assume both filters in it are being fed the same ping? I know there's a few different configurations/implementations of that filter, so just curious...
Dave Peck
Ever heard a Hordijk Dual Phaser being pinged? Sounds really cool the way you can get lots of complex motion with all of the peaks sweeping and spreading...
southphillysynths
diophantine

I would love to hear the sound of the actual 5U format version! I just mean high resonance on the filter, maybe even no input signal just heavy modulation!

Dave Peck

I'm sure the dual phaser would be pretty awesome as well!
Liddlepud
Serge Variable Q VCF (in the Animal) never tried the euro version
Cwejman Res 4
Topobrillo Multifilter
Benjolin
timoka
vcfq
twin peak
res-4
mmf1
qmmf-4
sph-2
r-54

all these are extremely talented pingers!
MRoyce
Is there a filter that pings badly? I've gotten all of mine to sound good, mostly by playing with the attenuation of the ping-impulse. I really like the A-127 triple filter for building pinged chords.
Michael O.
Haven't met one I don't like, but my favorites are the aforementioned Serge Variable-Q vcf, the similar and similarly excellent Toppobrillo Multifilter, and the Wiard Borg II. The Korg MS20 pings amazingly as well, and is sort of unique in its sound.
6Human
Xaoc Kamieniec has excellent percussive pings. Response is highly dependent on incoming signal though, and it doesn't track 1v/o.
PhineasFreak
any comb filter.
captjrab
Pittsburgh Phase Shifter.
Great feedback by ping/cv ing the Resonance
https://instagram.com/p/BZspZMDFcwu/
flo
I like pinging Cwejman stuff a lot. Here are a few examples. As always, detailed patch notes can be found on Soundcloud or in my patching thread.

First, a pinging beat using a MMF1, MMF6, SPH2, RES4 and FSH1 for the individual sounds.

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https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopinionem/mar-15-pinging-drummach ine

This second one has several layers, but the pings are coming from a RES4.

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https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopinionem/sept-15-interplanetary- raindance

This third patch exploits the fact that the S/H sampling signal of the RG6 bleeds into the clock output. A cycling CTG-VC is used at the input, creating the stairway modulation, but also bleeding into the clock (which you hear when the CTG is at audio rate). The clock out pings a RES4 again.

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https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopinionem/oct-15-bleeding-random- generator

Furthermore, another modular beat. Actually, only the "sloppy" percussion is an actual ping sound here, created using a synced PH8 and a RES4 and SPH2 in series for the filters.

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https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopinionem/march-17-wowas-woodbloc ks

Finally, a pinging beat using non-modular gear: Mutronics Mutator (kick and higher percussion sound), (original MK2) MS20 (doing the sloppy percussion, again created using a synced PH8), and a Roland SH2 (S/H modulated sound). The SH2 did not behave as I expected and was a bit disappointing - my conclusion is that there's not enough of a sweet spot on the edge of self-oscillation. The MS20 worked much better than I expected, and the Mutator did pretty much what I anticipated.

[soundcloud url="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/319932381" params="color=ff5500&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments= true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false" width="100%" height="166" iframe="true" /]

https://soundcloud.com/contracommunemopinionem/apr-17-nonmodular-pingb eat

Hope you enjoy it and cheers! Guinness ftw! thumbs up
BananaPlug
That's a pretty thorough list. haven't used Cwej but people always say its great. Can't go wrong with VCFQ and it's a nice filter that can even do fun wobbly subaudio stuff. My favorite though is a Klangbau Koln Twin Peak. You're welcome to come over for a look. Reverb does wonders for pings. A spring has too much res of its own but pretty much any digital reverb is like butter and salt for that stuff.
southphillysynths
BananaPlug wrote:
That's a pretty thorough list. haven't used Cwej but people always say its great. Can't go wrong with VCFQ and it's a nice filter that can even do fun wobbly subaudio stuff. My favorite though is a Klangbau Koln Twin Peak. You're welcome to come over for a look. Reverb does wonders for pings. A spring has too much res of its own but pretty much any digital reverb is like butter and salt for that stuff.


My mind was blown when I heard your Kangbau twin peak, hence this thread!!
timoka
MRoyce wrote:
Is there a filter that pings badly?


it depends on what you mean by badly but first thing that comes to mind when using a filter as sound source is the tracking, many filter don't track 1v/oct well, so that's a big point for the cwejmans and the vcfq. if it's variations of the ping tone then nothing beats the twin peak, with almost no external modulation you can sculpt the sound from deep bassdrums to wooden marimba to metallic clangs or springy liquid splashes, the tracking knobs work wonders here. for precise tonal stuff i always use cwejmans, especially the res-4 and mmf-1. one major aspect for me is how fast the filter goes from no selfoscillation to selfoscillation, that means how well can you control the decay of the sound, are there many in between stages from a short pluck to a long decaying sine, there i have to say the res-4 beats them all with its bandwidth control.
flo
timoka wrote:
one major aspect for me is how fast the filter goes from no selfoscillation to selfoscillation, that means how well can you control the decay of the sound, are there many in between stages from a short pluck to a long decaying sine, there i have to say the res-4 beats them all with its bandwidth control.


Yeah, that was the problem with the SH2 described above (for the "non-modular pinging"). Somehow, it instantly goes from sounding like a straight trigger without any "ringing" at all to full on self-osc.

The beauty of the RES4 in that sense is that it doesn't self-oscillate at all (as long as no additional feedback paths are patched).

Cheers! Guinness ftw!
lohacker
6Human wrote:
Xaoc Kamieniec has excellent percussive pings. Response is highly dependent on incoming signal though, and it doesn't track 1v/o.


I'd be very interested on hearing ho it pings, do you have any demos?

Thanks Guinness ftw!
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