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Turing Machine Backpack
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ReturnCodeZero
So, I purchased pulses for my TM (Spirograph), however I didn't realise I needed the backpack d'oh! . Does anyone know where I can get one? Internet search doesn't direct me anywhere to buy. I am not savvy with a soldering iron so would need to be built and ready to go. If anyone has one for sale that would be great! Thanks in advance.
templar
http://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/backpack-pcb/

only £1 as well! thumbs up
ReturnCodeZero
Cool! Thanks, however is it really just a case of buying this? How does it attach? Am I being really basic here?
Milanm
The backpack PCB on Thonk would need to be built - You'd need to buy the components and solder them to the PCB.

I'm not sure you can buy them pre-built tbh. Maybe someone else can chime in.
ReturnCodeZero
Milanm wrote:
The backpack PCB on Thonk would need to be built - You'd need to buy the components and solder them to the PCB.

I'm not sure you can buy them pre-built tbh. Maybe someone else can chime in.


I thought it couldn't be that simple! Any idea which components? I know someone with a soldering iron so would be able to tap them up for a favour because otherwise Dead Banana

I have emailed Thonk for advice too.
Milanm
Thonk will have the up to date details.
sempervirent
Backpack BOM and source files:
http://musicthing.co.uk/modular/?page_id=323
ReturnCodeZero
sempervirent wrote:
Backpack BOM and source files:
http://musicthing.co.uk/modular/?page_id=323


Thanks - I did look at this, however to a complete electronics novice it doesn't make a lot of sense. seriously, i just don't get it

Does anybody know of anyone who offers services to build this kind of stuff? I'll obviously pay for parts/shipping and labour.
roger
You can ask in the Synth-DIY group on Facebook, lots of UK guys around who could help you out.
ReturnCodeZero
So if anyone needs to know for future reference .....

I bought a PCB from here:

http://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/backpack-pcb/

Components from here:

https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=65 087d6713

And paid for someone (Baddcr) to build it here:

http://synthpatcher.com - Excellent service here too, highly recommended.
Baddcr
Just spotted this - thank you ReturnCodeZero

This is fun!
ReturnCodeZero
Baddcr wrote:
Just spotted this - thank you ReturnCodeZero

This is fun!



No Problem! thumbs up
cptnal
ReturnCodeZero wrote:
So if anyone needs to know for future reference .....

I bought a PCB from here:

http://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/backpack-pcb/

Components from here:

https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=65 087d6713

And paid for someone (Baddcr) to build it here:

http://synthpatcher.com - Excellent service here too, highly recommended.



Interested to know the difference in between this method and pre-built. For modules available in both flavours, obviously.
Baddcr
The backpack is essentially discontinued, the new TMs don't require this modification because the new design incorporates the changes.

Not sure what other flavour there is?

As far as I am aware the TM is not available as a built module, I would be happy to quote you to build the TM for you, I have built quite a lot of them now and the cost is not prohibitive wink

See here for details and to get in touch:

http://synthpatcher.com/synth-diy-kit-build-service/
DSC
Love the first version!!! Not so much for the second.
Baddcr
DSC wrote:
Love the first version!!! Not so much for the second.


Oh,, that's odd, not doubting, but I am rather perplexed as to why?

I find the functionality identical (to my perceptions anyway) if calibrated properly!
DSC
The first design is organic! Sometimes it behaves and sometimes it doesn't! Just like my second wife. Just about the time you thought everything was good in the world, bang it does something that would make you say, 'WTF?' Aggravating, unreliable, but cool and bouncy and in all the right places, sometimes!$#?. Sometimes it locks, sometimes not, sometimes I can't get it to work at all. The 'engineer's OCD' nightmare and yet, special. No two behave the same way, on the same day, ever!

LUBZ cookie?!?
Baddcr
Cool - I see!!

Not sure if you mean something else with the 'organic' description but lock unreliability, total dropout etc... I've had from the new one and when it's not calibrated properly wink

Maybe try messing around with the calibration?
DSC
The new one is incompatible with the 'bytes' expander from Mystic Citcuits, and I love that addition too. Add a Ginko TTLFO and I am in serious heaven!
Made a couple of these now and each one acts different, even after calibration.

Baddcr
I didn't doubt for a second you didn't calibrate it properly hehe grin

I kinda know what you mean, so I am going from memory mostly, I had one of the old ones and let it go to a friend, the sequence length parameter on the new one goes some way to replicating the bytes thingy, I do like the new expanders though!

Surprised you didn't work the vactrol mix expander in there too! Really nice build - as usual smile

thumbs up

Actually, the one ReturnCodeZero sent to me to have the backpack fitted was one of the old ones, I couldn't even find a calibration trimmer on it, that one misbehaved as well - but you re absolutely right - it's all good fun hey!


edit: oh and I definitely prefer the old LED array (KnightRider lives) to the new individual leds - but that's an aesthetic thing!
Foghorn
DSC wrote:
The new one is incompatible with the 'bytes' expander from Mystic Citcuits, and I love that addition too. Add a Ginko TTLFO and I am in serious heaven!
Made a couple of these now and each one acts different, even after calibration.



I have a Turing Suite (Turing machine, Voltages and Pulses on a single panel) and I also have a Ginko TTLFO.
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I am trying to visualize how you are hooking these two modules together.

Are you just clocking the Turing with the Tap Tempo LFO, using some trigger to tap the LFO?

If that is it, it sounds like it would go well with my "Percussion & Timing" rack which is just above the Turing Machine.

Did I get this right?

Foghorn

PS, I use the TTLFO to modulate BIA and Braids in my percussion rack.
Also use a Frequency Central Waverunner the same way.
DSC
Foghorn wrote:


Are you just clocking the Turing with the Tap Tempo LFO, using some trigger to tap the LFO?

If that is it, it sounds like it would go well with my "Percussion & Timing" rack which is just above the Turing Machine.

Did I get this right?

Foghorn


Yep! And play with the 'distort' knob!!!!!!! Basically in 'square' wave it acts as pulse width modulation, but in other waves it can do interesting timing's. Either forward or late timings. With it fed into 'bytes' it allows you quick 'syncopation's' with turning the lock knob just to the point it is about to unlock. One of my 'bytes' expanders locks into 1 and three, but not into two and another one locks into 1 and two, but not into three and so on!!! I absolutely love it! I then let the loop go and bust out the saxophone and do a little jazz improv based on either sorta 4/4 or long sections of 3/4 timing and then back again.
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