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Hocketing in Eurorack
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chess1
So I was impressed by recent demos of the Intellijel Shifty, from the description, "four sample and hold stages, a sequential gate and sequencer controller".

Being Eurorack poor I was wondering if any experienced wigglers might explain how to arrange this hocket sequence set up. I would have searched for the term, but alas. Google was not much help either.

This is fun!
unrecordings
Is this any help ?

https://soundbridge.io/hocketing-pointillism-electronic-music/
erstlaub
Not specifically knowing the module (and just having a sort of passing understanding from reading the article as I hadn't heard the term before), the thing that springs to mind would be using a voltage controlled switch to send a sequence to different voices in your system. The shifty looks like it'd be a decent bet though for sure as it looks as though it has gate outs too which means you wouldn't need a pair of switches.

The only thing I'm not totally clear on is the play modes, it looks like its forwards, backwards, pendulum and random which are cool but it'd depend on whether you wanted to change the order of the voices sound in via CV which it might not do?

I'd arrange it like this probably.

CV sequence to CV in
Clock to gate in
CVs and gate outs to respective oscs and envelopes
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Each clock received will distribute the sequence to the next voice in the chain whichever way that switch is set.
sduck
Ah, hocketing. Kind of a weird advanced topic. I first ran into it on a spoken word demo album by Wendy Carlos describing various synthesizer techniques she used for Switched on Bach. Can't find a listing for that right now. Basically it's just several sequences of musical notes, with the first step of each one overlapping the last step of the previous one. You can do this with ASR's, and delay modules, or multiple sequencers, but the idea is to get some level of polyphony going with minimal equipment use. The Shifty sounds like it might be a good tool for this, but not being familiar with it I'll have to leave the specifics to someone else.

Edit: Here's a link to W Carlos's page about this disk - http://www.wendycarlos.com/+sos.html (quite a geocities era looking page)
andrewhuang
I understood hocket to mean dividing chunks of a single melody between multiple voices. Braids in meta mode is my go to for this in Euro! Shifty at $189 may actually be the most affordable route, otherwise I think you need at least a sequencer and a sequential switch. And in both cases of course, all the voices you want to use.
Navs
Sounds like the sort of thing you can do with the Doepfer A-152, aka 'The Thing': http://doepfer.de/a152

Check the 'mono-poly konverter' patch at the Doepfer page and run a search for the A-152 here. You'll find discussions going back years on ways to use it. Wiggler Microfauna tricked it into being a proper Analogue Shift Register iirc.

You can patch something similar with some S&Hs and trigger delays but an ASR is easier. Run a search for the Synapse magazine and the 'Arabesque Generator' article written by Serge.
Navs
chess1 wrote:
... Being Eurorack poor I was wondering if any experienced wigglers might explain how to arrange this hocket sequence set up. ...


I missed the bit about you not having Euro ... and remembered other ways to do this. If you have a Kenton Pro 2000 II, it has a polyphonic cycle mode, where it distributes notes much like the A-152:

http://navsmodularlab.blogspot.de/2008/11/patch-of-day-polyphonic-modu lar.html

Here's the SC: https://soundcloud.com/navs/thepolyphonicmodular

Of course, if you're using MIDI, you could also just separate the notes of your sequence into multiple clips and assign them to different MIDI channels/ synths.
chess1
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mgscheue
andrewhuang wrote:
I understood hocket to mean dividing chunks of a single melody between multiple voices. Braids in meta mode is my go to for this in Euro! Shifty at $189 may actually be the most affordable route, otherwise I think you need at least a sequencer and a sequential switch. And in both cases of course, all the voices you want to use.


I know the OP doens't have Euro but, yeah, for Euro, Braids in meta mode is super-great for this. The E350 or, even better, the E352 are, too, with the two outputs that you can then send to two VCAs and control which opens, when. Sequential switch or, for randomness, Mutable Branches.

I hadn't heard of hocketing until I saw this Adam Neely video.


Would love to see some modular videos from you, Andrew.
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