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Audiothingies DoubleDrummer - New drum synthesizer synth!
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Author Audiothingies DoubleDrummer - New drum synthesizer synth!
monads
Wow...looking forward to pair this with MicroMonsta..... SlayerBadger!

https://www.audiothingies.com/product/doubledrummer/



Synthesis

DoubleDrummer has 6 channels of drum synthesis (kick, snare, toms, clap, cowbell and hihats).
Each of these 6 channels has been fine tuned to provide a wide range of sounds within a limited set of parameters per channel for the best possible user experience.

Bass drum: tune, attack, decay, pitch mod level, pitch mod decay time
Snare: tune, tone decay, noise level, noise decay, color, emphasis
Tom: pitch, low pitch, hi pitch, decay, pitch mod level, pan spread
Clap: attack, decay, color, emphasis
Cowbell: tune, offset, decay, harmonics, emphasis
Hats: closed decay, opened decay, color, emphasis

Sample playback

DoubleDrummer also has 6 channels of drum sample playback, with 56 internal drum sounds to choose from, within a wide variety of kick, snares, toms, cymbals, and other percussions.
Instead of going for the hifi sound commonly found today, we chose to emulate the sound of the early eighties drum machines with a few of our own twists (think Linndrum, Drumtraks, DX, etc…)
Remember having to burn EEPROMS for those machines? No need to do this here. It’s like having several dozens EEPROMS with sounds already burnt into it.
Each of those sample channels have tune, decay, comp and a 2-pole lowpass filter with frequency and resonance parameters.

These channels can be useful to provide more natural sounding sounds that can be more difficult to synthesize with a limited parameter set, such as cymbals for example. But it’s also great for those “in ur face” 80’s kick and snare sounds.

And if you really fancy these sampled sounds, the 6 main synthesis channels can be switched to sample playback mode, turning the DoubleDrummer into a 12-voice old-school sounding drum sample player.

Mixer

Color your sound: each one of the 12 voices is sent to a mixer with mute, drive, bit crusher, pan, level and fx send level per channel.

FXs

2 send FXs are available: delay and plate reverb.
Each channel can send to one of these 2 FXs

On top of that, you have a multi-FX on the master stereo bus.
This master FX has drive, samplerate reduction, bitcrushing, and a 2 pole lowpass filter with frequency cutoff and resonance parameters.

Other stuff

128 memories for storing your kits
USB MIDI
A PC/Mac software will be available to send your own drum samples to the internal memory

Audio/Video

Coming soon, stay tuned…

Price & Availability

252.50€....November 2017.
Visit Audiothingies website for further details....
Muzone
Looks interesting, have been on the lookout for a "pure" drum synth without a sequencer &/or triggers and this looks like it could be very useful smile
kohpnyn
Looks fun!
PISS.EXE
Interested even if advertising a drum machine as having the equivalent of bunches of EPROMs in 2017 is meh as fuck
euromorcego
indeed:

monads wrote:

Remember having to burn EEPROMS for those machines? No need to do this here. It’s like having several dozens EEPROMS with sounds already burnt into it.

640K really ought to be enough for anybody ...

actually, imho a significant fraction of people here won't remember burning EEPROMs, many barely remember a phone booth or a fax machine.

A way to load own samples would be very welcome, not as a full-fledged sampler of course, just for some variability and choices, similar to the Novation Circuit.
Franks
euromorcego wrote:
A way to load own samples would be very welcome, not as a full-fledged sampler of course, just for some variability and choices, similar to the Novation Circuit.


thankfully its 2017 so its happening.

Quote:
A PC/Mac software will be available to send your own drum samples to the internal memory


I'll be keeping an ear out for this though, seems like it could be cool.
col
Looks interesting, can each of the drum channels be assigned to separate MIDI channels? If so would pair nicely with a Beatstep Pro.
Blairio
col wrote:
Looks interesting, can each of the drum channels be assigned to separate MIDI channels? If so would pair nicely with a Beatstep Pro.


The Korg Volca Sample has this architecture by default - one midi channel per sample - and it is a royal pain in the butt. Luckily the Mediator RK-002 smart midi cable sorted things out.

The Volca Sample may be the natural competitor to this. It even comes loaded with a similar set of default drums kits - DMX, Linn, XoX etc.
rohelineoun
Oh boy, very excited to hear demos of the drum synthesis. I have thought about the Volca Sample for a similar role but legit synthesis in addition to sample playback would be worth double the cost for me.
col
Blairio wrote:
col wrote:
Looks interesting, can each of the drum channels be assigned to separate MIDI channels? If so would pair nicely with a Beatstep Pro.


The Korg Volca Sample has this architecture by default - one midi channel per sample - and it is a royal pain in the butt. Luckily the Mediator RK-002 smart midi cable sorted things out.

The Volca Sample may be the natural competitor to this. It even comes loaded with a similar set of default drums kits - DMX, Linn, XoX etc.


yeah, Iv'e got a volca sample (and the RK-002 midi cable). With the version 2.0 software of the beatstep pro you can individually set the pads/drum channel to a MIDI channel. Works well with the Volca Sample.

The main limitation with the volca sample is you can't process the individual voices, for example to add compressor, delay. You can with the built in reverb but it's crap. Also, the 12bit samples are a bit thin through a big PA.

If the FX in the Double Drummer are anywhere near as good as the Micromonsta and the samples are 16bit it should cream the volca sample.
Blairio
col wrote:
Blairio wrote:
col wrote:
Looks interesting, can each of the drum channels be assigned to separate MIDI channels? If so would pair nicely with a Beatstep Pro.


The Korg Volca Sample has this architecture by default - one midi channel per sample - and it is a royal pain in the butt. Luckily the Mediator RK-002 smart midi cable sorted things out.

The Volca Sample may be the natural competitor to this. It even comes loaded with a similar set of default drums kits - DMX, Linn, XoX etc.


yeah, Iv'e got a volca sample (and the RK-002 midi cable). With the version 2.0 software of the beatstep pro you can individually set the pads/drum channel to a MIDI channel. Works well with the Volca Sample.

The main limitation with the volca sample is you can't process the individual voices, for example to add compressor, delay. You can with the built in reverb but it's crap. Also, the 12bit samples are a bit thin through a big PA.

If the FX in the Double Drummer are anywhere near as good as the Micromonsta and the samples are 16bit it should cream the volca sample.


I agree on the Volca's limitations re, processing sounds aboard, however it has a few neat tricks up its sleave in that (for instance) you can record knob tweaks which will then play back with the voice concerned.

The 12bit sample rate issue is an interesting one. Early Linn drums were 8 bit. Roland 'S 'series samplers and a range of famous rompler based drum machines used 12 bit technology. 12bit doesn't have to sound thin, and even has a character of its own. My Volca is currently loaded with Roland CR78 and LinnDrum 2 samples, and sounds pretty good through my 'studio' Equator D5 monitors.

These are both great instruments, and it is refreshing to have genuine options at the affordable end of the market. I have a Micromonsta, and if the Audiothingies Drum Synth is even half as good as that, it deserves to do very well.
col
Yeah, the Volca Sample motion recording is a great feature! Also, Using the Volca Sample with the Beatstep Pro makes it much more melodic as you can utilise the BSP polymetric sequencing.

I just wish it didn't sound so thin when I attempt to mix it in with my analogue drum voices. I guess it's better on it's own or with an external compressor. hmmm.....
PISS.EXE
col wrote:
Yeah, the Volca Sample motion recording is a great feature! Also, Using the Volca Sample with the Beatstep Pro makes it much more melodic as you can utilise the BSP polymetric sequencing.

I just wish it didn't sound so thin when I attempt to mix it in with my analogue drum voices. I guess it's better on it's own or with an external compressor. hmmm.....


Just get an EHX black finger or presonus TubePre for your volca sample! Why don't more people do this? oops
col
PISS.EXE wrote:


Just get an EHX black finger or presonus TubePre for your volca sample! Why don't more people do this? oops


Well, basically because I would rather invest into analogue drum voices that I can process individually. So far a Hexinverter NeinOhNein and two Thomas Henry Mega Percussive Synths. thumbs up

The Volca Sample is great for taking on picnics though...

Getting back to the DoubleDrummer I can see a market for it, especially if you already have a Micromonsta and it integrates well with BeatStepPro. Not sure about the price tag, it looks a bit pricey. The Novation Circuit is in that range.
PISS.EXE
when are the demos
WaveRider
PISS.EXE wrote:
when are the demos

checking that as well... is there a release date?
PISS.EXE
WaveRider wrote:
PISS.EXE wrote:
when are the demos

checking that as well... is there a release date?


there is only so much more of November 2017 to go.... seriously, i just don't get it
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