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Post by flx » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:21 pm

I started to build a Snazzy FX rack, as I have always been intrigued by their modules and finally got an opportunity to take the plunge.

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It's quite a different approach to patching than I'm used to, which feels great, as it seems like I'm learning something new. At first I was worried that it would all just be chaotic or random, but it turned out that if you get your head into the whole "start with a basic wave and crush it ten times" concept, a Snazzy FX system can stand really well on its own and the modules complement each other nicely. Of course you can just put one or two Snazzy modules into your mixed Eurorack system and incorporate them into your music without any issue. I really wanted to understand the philosophy behind the brand however, like I did with Bastl Instruments and Klangbau Köln, so my goal is to get a more or less Snazzy-only system with all/most of their modules. So stay tuned for more videos ;-)



My Snazzy FX YouTube Playlist (always up to date):


Put on your headphones, clear 20 minutes of your time and join me on a trip from Seattle to Los Angeles, in an experimental travelogue with noise music from my Snazzy FX system
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Dronebank Demo:
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Kick Me Demo:
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Hi Gain VCA Demo:
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Kitty Eyes vs. Dreamboat vs. Chaos Brother
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Eternal Spring Filter Demo
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A Patch from Scratch with the Snazzy FX system
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"Dirty Mirror" Ardcore Sketch Demo
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Generative patch with patch notes
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... another one. Click the link for the patch notes in the video description.
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Jam sessions:
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More to come :)



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Snazzy FX Techno by Dan Snazelle:
https://soundcloud.com/loss1234/live-tr ... /live-sets

Lots of Snazzy FX sound examples:
https://soundcloud.com/loss1234/sets/user-error




:75: My Snazzy FX buying guide :75:

"Snazzy FX looks cool, but I have no idea what to get!"
Start with the Eternal Spring Filter. It's a low-pass filter with lots of character. It is never clean and offers fun waveshaping, FM and CV possibilities. It's easy to understand, not very wide, doesn't draw much power and you can never have enough filters in your rack.

The Kick Me is also a very straight-forward Bassdrum module with a wide array of fat sounds.

"I want distortion/fuzz."
Get the Hi Gain. Three different, super dirty waveshaping VCAs with individual outputs, useful input-normalling and a mix output, so it can act as a three-input mixer too. It's never clean. Very easy to use and understand, even though the third VCA behaves differently than other VCAs you might have worked with.

"I need a CV utility module."
Get the Ardcore, even if you can't program yourself. There are a lot of "sketches" (programs) for it online to download for free and loading one to the module is quick and easy via USB. Find my Ardcore Sketches here.

"I want chaos, but don't understand the difference between the modules."
Kitty Eyes: Two chaotic signals at audio rate with useful CV control of the chaos/speed. There's a fast trigger output as well. Very easy to learn and use. Available as a DIY kit too!

Dreamboat: The top provides two fast chaotic audio rate signals and the bottom two slower signals (think fast LFO speeds). CV modulation is available for both sections and there is also a chaotic trigger output. The Dreamboat has a bit of a life of its own, whereas the Kitty Eyes offers more predictable and stable results. Both can be useful and the modules complement each other.

Chaos Brother: Two medium to fast LFO rate chaos signals, a slewed output for smoother CV, a CV/trigger input to "sync" it to an external clock and a chaotic gate output (really cool to add synced but off-beat drum triggers to a sequence for example). Needs a bit of practice to figure out.

Generally, you want to control the chaos modules with external CV as this makes them become more rhythmical and CV allows you to move the signals between the various, more or less stable, states. Without CV, their signal is chaotic but without too much movement.

Check out my video above comparing the three chaos modules' outputs.

Also read this great blog post by fellow wiggler obadada about chaotic oscillators with examples from the Chaos Brother:
http://ristoid.net/modular/chaos_sync.html

"Isn't there a clean sounding module for a change?!"
Yes, the Dual Multiplier! It features two DC-coupled VCAs, which can process audio and CV. Easy to understand and nice for ring modulation sounds or clean VCA duties. Available as a DIY kit too!

Also, the Dronebank! Five(!) triangle wave oscillators with individual outs and a sum out. No, that's not dull and stupid, because triangle waves are great waveforms for further waveshaping by the other Snazzy FX modules! FM also works super cool with them. Patch the Dronebank into everything!

"I want to dive deep into a complex module."
Get the Tidal Wave! It's a complex audio processor and synth voice with a low-pass filter and waveshaper, lots of modulation and signal routing options and a CV-controllable wet/dry mixer (although it doesn't necessarily have to be wet/dry as you can route the signal in different ways). Check out the manual and geremyf's awesome cheat sheet.

"I want to build a beginner-friendly DIY module."
Build two Kitty Eyes kits! One regular, which is very fast chaos, and another one with the slow mod (the parts for the mod should be included in the kit).

"Where can I get those knobs?"
They're Davies 1900 style knobs, available here for example.

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:miley: Snazzy FX Subforum:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=67


What are your experiences with Snazzy FX?

:75: I'm also still looking to buy some Snazzy FX modules:
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Post by BaloErets » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:38 pm

And who employs you exactly??? :woah:

No, I'm totally joking. I actually really appreciate this playlist. Snazzy has been a manufacturer that has been on my radar for awhile, but never have taken the plunge. I'm going to have to do that sometime in the near future.

Personally, I would LOVE to see your Snazzy rack in action. Any chance that you could share some wiggling with us wigglers at some point in the future?

EDIT; Would also really like to hear how you work and are gelling with the Ardcore. These self-contained programmable eurorack modules are something that I'm very interested in building in 2-4 years from now.
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Post by lisa » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:40 pm

Cool! I’m looking forward to hearing the Kitty Eyes in action. :cloud:
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Post by flx » Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:09 pm

BaloErets wrote: Any chance that you could share some wiggling with us wigglers at some point in the future?
Sure! Let me know if you have any specific questions :) I think I understand most of the Snazzy modules now, apart from the Tidal Wave, which seems to be a super complex beast :goo: It can sound cool, but I usually don't really know how I got there yet.

BaloErets wrote: Would also really like to hear how you work and are gelling with the Ardcore. These self-contained programmable eurorack modules are something that I'm very interested in building in 2-4 years from now.
I know how to program stuff in Arduino a tiny little bit myself and I was hoping to get some more practise with the Ardcore. Haven't found the time for it yet, but since there are so many sketches out there already, I can just load any of those on there. It's really quick and hassle-free. Just download the sketch, open it in the Arduino software and send it over to the Ardcore via USB. The sketches I tried so far were all very well explained too.
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Post by flx » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:14 pm

lisa wrote:Cool! I’m looking forward to hearing the Kitty Eyes in action. :cloud:
Here you go. Just a quick comparison and cross-modulation noodling :sb:

Kitty Eyes vs. Dreamboat vs. Chaos Brother
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Post by DSC » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:48 am

One of my favorite manufacturers!!!!
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Post by pulsewidth » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:24 am

What about the Telephone Game?

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Post by lisa » Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:49 am

Thanks! :love:

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Post by flx » Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 am

pulsewidth wrote:What about the Telephone Game?
See here: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... highlight= :mrgreen:
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Post by mousegarden » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:20 am

Snazzy modules have always facinated me, but so far I haven't been convinced that they would be of any use for me personally. They seem to promise a lot, but the videos always seem a bit of a let down, and as much as I try to understand the functions of the various modules they still remain a mystery to me. The bottom line is the sounds, and I just feel that I can get similar sounds from my Doepfer modules, sounds that are in the same ball park anyway, and the Doepfer modules are easier to understand.
I may take a risk and start something with a Dreamboat, but I'm still not sure.

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Post by flx » Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:46 am

mousegarden wrote:Snazzy modules have always facinated me, but so far I haven't been convinced that they would be of any use for me personally.
Funny, how this seems to be the case for many people, me included.

I would probably recommend to start with an Eternal Spring Filter, which I'll demo soon as well. It's easy to understand but the sound is something different. Lots of waveshaping and useful, non-squealy self-oscillation. It's more of an "effect" than a traditional LPF and it seems to have many sweet spots depending on the signal you send through it.

After that look at the Kick Me. Really good kick drum and drone module that will punch through your mix and deliver plenty of bottom end!

The Ardcore is nice too as a CV utility, even if you don't know how to program. Lots of available sketches for it online and loading them on the module is super quick and easy via USB.

The chaos modules are somewhat special and will probably polarize opinions depending on the sounds people want to make with their systems.

The Tidal Way can sound really good too but I have yet to fully understand it :mrgreen:

I'm really looking forward to receive my Wow & Flutter delay and hopefully snag a used Telephone Game.

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Post by flx » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:37 am

Added a first attempt at a buying guide to the first post :)
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Post by mousegarden » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:43 am

flx wrote:
mousegarden wrote:Snazzy modules have always facinated me, but so far I haven't been convinced that they would be of any use for me personally.
Funny, how this seems to be the case for many people, me included.

I would probably recommend to start with an Eternal Spring Filter, which I'll demo soon as well. It's easy to understand but the sound is something different. Lots of waveshaping and useful, non-squealy self-oscillation. It's more of an "effect" than a traditional LPF and it seems to have many sweet spots depending on the signal you send through it.

After that look at the Kick Me. Really good kick drum and drone module that will punch through your mix and deliver plenty of bottom end!

The Ardcore is nice too as a CV utility, even if you don't know how to program. Lots of available sketches for it online and loading them on the module is super quick and easy via USB.

The chaos modules are somewhat special and will probably polarize opinions depending on the sounds people want to make with their systems.

The Tidal Way can sound really good too but I have yet to fully understand it :mrgreen:

I'm really looking forward to receive my Wow & Flutter delay and hopefully snag a used Telephone Game.

Anyway, feel free to ask questions!
I'm quite attracted to the Drone Bank, it's a very useful module and easy to understand. It doesn't have CV but I can put it through other things and modulate it that way.
I've avoided Make Noise since I started because of their very confusing graphics, and Snazzy simply because the functions aern't obvious. I'm an older guy with failing eyesight and my views are quite old fashioned regarding modular, I like the basic clear layout of Doepfer and similar modules it makes my workflow quicker, instead of having to stare at modules to work out what goes where. I have tried though, but I've ended up selling things with fancy graphics and now I've learnt my lesson.

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Post by DSC » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:53 am

There are many sides to modular. Some of the extremes might be easy to read grey panel Doepfer modules that are very clean cut and easy to read and operate. The other side are impossible, insane, WTF is this thing doing... ...long live eurorack modular!!! We have all been blessed.

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Post by mousegarden » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:07 am

DSC wrote:There are many sides to modular. Some of the extremes might be easy to read grey panel Doepfer modules that are very clean cut and easy to read and operate. The other side are impossible, insane, WTF is this thing doing... ...long live eurorack modular!!! We have all been blessed.
Of course, the appearance of a module isn't related to its usefulness or interest, never judge a book by it's cover as they say.
Some modules are beautiful works of art in their own right and I think some will become design classics in the future, they will be difinte markers regarding fashions and trends in the timeline of modular history.

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Post by Warpsmasher » Mon Dec 25, 2017 6:18 am

Great thread, I'll watch all these videos eventually. I've recently acquired a kitty eyes, read the manual, and it recommends pairing it with the telephone game, so I found a sweet deal on one here in the for sale forum a couple of weeks ago. Still figuring them both out, as I have some other new stuff to get familiar with now too. They both seem to be able to generate CV and awesome chaotic clocks from just about any kind of input, audio or CV.

This is meant to be a Rainmaker video, but the first minute is Kitty Eyes' fast trigger/chaos clock playing a single randomizing Pico Drum. Telephone Game is sending clock to the Rainmaker's trigger input, which is set to randomize all tap and delay parameters. Kitty eyes is also sending its X cv output to clock/control the telephone game (recommended in the manual), and is being clocked/controlled (influenced? whatever) by a divided white noise signal from the A-118.
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Post by flx » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:12 pm

Warpsmasher wrote: This is meant to be a Rainmaker video, but the first minute is Kitty Eyes' fast trigger/chaos clock playing a single randomizing Pico Drum.
This is awesome! It would be great if one could loop some of those chaotic drum rolls. Would that be possible with the Telephone Game's loop feature?
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Post by Warpsmasher » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:46 pm

Depending on which outputs of the TG were being used, and you were using it to select the drum samples (I used Peaks for that in the video), you might get some steadiness, but I don't think a precisely repeating loop is possible with the chaotic triggers. What I like to do is stack a line of drum audio into the Scooper and record loops on that, then slice and dice and FSU.

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Post by vibralux » Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:43 pm

Great playlist. Thanks. I will be doing a series of Snazzy reviews soon also so stay tuned!
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Post by Granny » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:34 pm

:omg:

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Post by flx » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:21 am

Granny wrote::omg:
Indeed!

I'm thinking I have to get my Octatrack involved soon to do some rhythmic noise sequencing and resampling.
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Post by flx » Thu Dec 28, 2017 5:14 pm

Recorded another jam with the Snazzy FX Eurorack system. Non-Snazzy modules are only the Synthrotek EKO (still waiting for my Wow & Flutter to arrive) and two mixers. I'll keep on practising :bananaguitar:

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Post by Granny » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:39 pm

dude, thats great! i also enjoyed warpsmashers video,, i was thinking of getting started with the kitty eyes as part of a smaller system. will test the module at schneider, i hope they have it

love the vids! :party:

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Post by skyshaver » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:41 pm

Cool, been futzing about with Arduino programming lately, will have to check out the "Ardcore" a little more closely

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Post by flx » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:07 am

Granny wrote:i was thinking of getting started with the kitty eyes as part of a smaller system. will test the module at schneider, i hope they have it
Make sure to feed it CV when you try it, to get rhythmic chaos. The audio of the X and Y outputs can also be used as a drum sound source with an envelope and VCA. Also send X & Y through a filter, or ping a filter with the trigger output :)

skyshaver wrote:Cool, been futzing about with Arduino programming lately, will have to check out the "Ardcore" a little more closely
What I want to try is to combine existing sketches. Like take a trigger sequencer sketch and make it output decay envelopes instead of triggers. Hopefully this makes it easier for me to learn more Arduino.
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