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Behringer Announces the UB-Xa - Oberheim OB-Xa Desktop Clone
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Author Behringer Announces the UB-Xa - Oberheim OB-Xa Desktop Clone
anselmi
via Matrixsynth


anselmi
and remember...

Uli wrote:
We at Behringer do not believe in 'virtual analog', VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in.
WaveRider
great! if it sounds like one, amazing synth

...does not seem to be rack mountable.... (unless on top) not fun to have 5-6 desktop synths cluttering the desk.... why rackmount format is dead I have no clue... guess the future is making music sitting on the floor hihi with classic synths
ignatius
anselmi wrote:
and remember...

Uli wrote:
We at Behringer do not believe in 'virtual analog', VST’s or other creative names for digital sound emulations as we are of the firm opinion that you cannot replicate true analog sound through digital technology, and there are many technical reasons for this. To be very clear, this doesn’t mean digital synths or VST’s can't sound great, but it is just something we don’t believe in.


also worth remembering behringer can't not straight up rip off other products. lol..

but whatever.. more the merrier. though i prefer my (digital) nord razz
dkcg
Since it's Behringer, it should have a noise source. Whether you can turn it off or not is another story...

But noise is a feature on all Behringer gear. grin
Illwiggle
applause
dkcg wrote:
Since it's Behringer, it should have a noise source. Whether you can turn it off or not is another story...

But noise is a feature on all Behringer gear. grin



applause hahaha
gentle_attack
ignatius wrote:
but whatever.. more the merrier. though i prefer my (digital) nord razz

I love proudly digital synths (FM, samplers, etc), even romplers like R8-mkii have their day

I know the SH-01 is going after a different skill/budget level than almost everyone on this site, but if you have a DAW you can do VA that sounds like SH101 or MS20 all day without spending any extra money, there's just no reason for me to buy that. If you want fat analog basslines, but don't want vintage upkeep or full analog reissue (if there is one) I'd rather go a different direction to get the same sounds, whether it be the System 500, SE-02, Volca Bass, M32... or something from Beringer. Giving Roland shit for "modeling" analog behavior instead of just like, ya know, building an analog synth... I get that totally.
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I'll fully acknowledge that if you have no synths, and no Ableton, then hell yeah a 4 voice VA SH-01 alongside a TR-8 or either of the 808/909 VAs are going to light plenty of fires and get more people involved in production, which awesome any way you slice it.
In_black
Taking other people’s designs and making a cheap knock-off that’ll probably fall apart in a few months. Behringer is now Urban Outfitters.
chvad
If it sounds cool I'm down.

People need to get over cloning.... So much of that in euro.. to give behringer shit for it is just silly.
stikygum
Behringer does have the ambition and resources to remake the classics that most companies don't. As long as they're not taking Oberheim's name or model name, I'm fine with it. I just don't want to see a Behringer Oberheim OB-Xa. But a Behringer UB-Xa is cool. No harm to the original name, no foul. And if it sounds like a OB-Xa, that's a win for everyone here. This would be amazing.
pricklyrobot
All the other stuff is up for debate (and people have been going round and round about Behringer for years), but I still think “cloning” the graphic design of the original is really fucking uncreative and lame.
shreddoggie
GS always censors my posts when I reply to Uli Behringer with a picture of a jackass.

EPTC
chvad wrote:
People need to get over cloning.... So much of that in euro.. to give behringer shit for it is just silly.


Well that's just it - It isn't cloning - Comparing behringer to boutique is like comparing Pepsi to local soda. Pepsi tastes like shit, and it's rude of Pepsi to devour other companies.

This is just like the Model D to me. The second most exciting reissue of the last few years (outside of the Moog D) was the OB-6; which while not a reissue was roughly a reborn Obie 8. Five hundred different things to try for (heck, Behriger teased a Synthi clone, even) but then they end up just taking a go on the other successful reintroduced product. They even dicked on the blue pinstripes.

pricklyrobot wrote:
All the other stuff is up for debate (and people have been going round and round about Behringer for years), but I still think “cloning” the graphic design of the original is really fucking uncreative and lame.


Totally agree.

Pardon the rant: It might sound great but the actual behavior smells awful. I think that's why people find Behringer so odorous.
EPTC
dkcg wrote:
Since it's Behringer, it should have a noise source. Whether you can turn it off or not is another story...


Hahaha!, I love that. Very funny joke.

... a BROWN noise source at that. (ba-dum!)
kwaidan
I was really impressed with the following comment by Uli:

Since this is more a labor of love than a commercially viable project, our engineers can’t work fulltime on this synth and will use some of their free time, hence the project will likely take more than 12 months.

Such a wonderful guy. Oh well, I suppose it is better to work on a “labor for love” with no pay than attend Behringer University. (Wonder where he got that idea?)
EPTC
kwaidan wrote:
I was really impressed with the following comment by Uli:

Since this is more a labor of love than a commercially viable project, our engineers can’t work fulltime on this synth and will use some of their free time.


Oh man, haha - thanks - what a dipshit of a quote.

So if you're sweatshop labor, is your free time when you're napping in the alleyway, or at your evening job sewing at the wallet factory?

Asking for a friend.

(And I'm aware the engineers are not sweatshop, but you know, upon whose backs a building is built, etc)
kwaidan
EPTC wrote:
So if you're sweatshop labor, is your free time when you're napping in the alleyway, or at your evening job sewing at the wallet factory?


When I bought an ADA8000, it came with an extensive catalog of his wares, many of which looked like more costly and better loved products. At one point, there was an article about Behringer City, China, where happy employees work and live in the same happy and nurturing compound.

I tried to look up Behringer City tonight on his website, but all mention of the happy little community has been removed. Still, he brags about the factory.
EPTC
kwaidan wrote:

I tried to look up Behringer City tonight on his website, but all mention of the happy little community has been removed. While he still brags about the factory, the living accommodations are no longer mentioned.


Ha! Yeah it's all really depressing and genuinely funny that people try to conflate module builders against this sort of blatant Galactus/Matrix nonsense. Where's their human ethics? (or in this instance, isn't Tom Oberheim alive and thriving, too??)

I just found Behringer City on Google Maps satellite view. Here's a photo.

Uli at home, playing the trumpet:

LoFi Junglist
kwaidan wrote:
I tried to look up Behringer City tonight on his website, but all mention of the happy little community has been removed. While he still brags about the factory, the living accommodations are no longer mentioned.


That's because bigots have turned offshore production into a taboo subject. You cant mention it, show living conditions or have worker's interviews etc, without still having the exact same pro-nationalist propaganda/slander rehashed over and over again in comment sections...

Like this one.
chvad
I wish there could be one thread one behringer product thread that focused on the gear instead of being pages of people bitching about something they never intended on buying. Fuckng irritating. Isn't that was gear slutz is for?
EPTC
LoFi Junglist wrote:

That's because bigots have turned offshore production into a taboo subject. You cant mention it, without still having the exact same propaganda/slander rehashed over and over again in comment sections...

Like this one.


Are you seriously conflating worker's rights into bigotry?

At least call it socialism. Learn your ad hominem.
EPTC
chvad wrote:
I wish there could be one thread one behringer product thread that focused on the gear instead of being pages of people bitching.


Ha, isn't this your quote, though? I mean you brought that into this conversation.

chvad wrote:
People need to get over cloning.... So much of that in euro.
kwaidan
LoFi Junglist wrote:
kwaidan wrote:
I tried to look up Behringer City tonight on his website, but all mention of the happy little community has been removed. While he still brags about the factory, the living accommodations are no longer mentioned.


That's because bigots have turned offshore production into a taboo subject. You cant mention it, show living conditions or have worker's interviews etc, without still having the exact same pro-nationalist propaganda/slander rehashed over and over again in comment sections...

Like this one.


Considering that I am neither German nor Chinese, I do not understand how my comment can be considered nationalistic.

If the working and living conditions at his plant are so great, why would he hide it?
LoFi Junglist
kwaidan wrote:
Considering that I am neither German nor Chinese, I do not understand how my comment can be considered nationalistic.

It isn't. That doesn't mean the comment section is free of those sentiments from other wigglers.
kwaidan wrote:
If the working and living conditions at his plant are so great, why would he hide it?

Literally explained in the first sentence you quoted, then further expanded on in the second sentence.

Did i need to make it more concise? seriously, i just don't get it
kwaidan
LoFi Junglist wrote:
kwaidan wrote:
Considering that I am neither German nor Chinese, I do not understand how my comment can be considered nationalistic.

It isn't. That doesn't mean the comment section is free of those sentiments from other wigglers.
kwaidan wrote:
If the working and living conditions at his plant are so great, why would he hide it?

Literally explained in the first sentence you quoted, then further expanded on in the second sentence.

Did i need to make it more concise? seriously, i just don't get it


Well, the “happy” adjectives were all mine, and I have no idea if his workers are pleased or not. Those sentences were observations, not quotes from the company.

However, I see your point of view, and I do not want to get political.

In addition, I am concerned about someone who will race to get a patent on a newly developed chip that makes Oberheim’s product marketable again. Plus, he steals the overall look, and by his own admission, makes his employees work for no pay.
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