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Korg Prologue
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Do you enjoy being teased?
Yes.
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No.
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Total Votes : 108

Author Korg Prologue
CoreInside
The new synth is supposed to bring something new to the game. Of course all synths bring something new, but KORG is teasing at something akin to "mind blowing". The name will be eight letters long, start with the letter "P", and apparently will have numbers in it as well. Some are guessing it might be a Poly8000. That could imply a more-than-4-voice poly digital analog hybrid. For something "mind blowing" it will need to be more than your standard poly analog.

http://www.matrixsynth.com/2017/10/new-korg-synth-coming-to-namm.html
estin
Would be nice if companies were a little more serious and forth coming. Something more akin to "Here's what we have in development, these are the reasons we are excited and here is why we think you will enjoy or benefit from this product"


vs. ZOMG something totally brewing at the HQ LULZ what could it be?!?!?! *insert blurry or censored picture*
GovernorSilver
C'est vrai... ou c'est le merde du bull?

http://www.audiokeys.net/forum/showthread.php/52773-NAMM-2018-KORG-PRO LOGUE-8-et-KORG-PROLOGUE-16
tehyar
Are we guessing? Poly8000 does seem reasonable. Let's see, starts with a P, 8 letters, includes numbers...

PresetH8
Pr0nkeys


...

that's all I got.
doombient.music
CoreInside wrote:
[...] Poly8000 [...]


This alone kills about everything...

Leave teasing and leaking and click-baiting to Behringer, it's their home turf.

Stephen
dubnspace
GovernorSilver wrote:
C'est vrai... ou c'est le merde du bull?

http://www.audiokeys.net/forum/showthread.php/52773-NAMM-2018-KORG-PRO LOGUE-8-et-KORG-PROLOGUE-16


translation - Prologue, the new hybrid analog synth from KORG

A 49-key, polyphonic analog polyphonic synthesizer and the 61-key, 16-channel version, which can be described as a "hybrid" synth by integrating a digital motor into the center of its fully analog circuit.

Close cousin of KORG's already famous Minilogue and Monologue, the prologue is a complete and fully programmable polyphonic analog synthesizer. Hormone boosted version, it is distinguished from these predecessors by a keyboard with large keys, a polyphony of 8 or 16 channels (depending on the model) and a new engine
digital sound (the multi-engine) greatly expanding the sound and customization possibilities. As you will understand, the prologue range includes two models: the 8-channel version of 49 keys and the 16-channel version of 61 keys. Let's find out more in detail what lies beneath this beast ...

Analog power

The prologue takes again the powerful analogical circuits which made the strength of its predecessors (Minilogue and Monologue), and thus proposes an incomparable quality of sound as well as an astonishing presence. More than 11000 electronic components have been used for its manufacture! The prologue is composed of 2VCO, 1VCF, 2EG, 1VCA and 1LFO. It also features the famous built-in oscillator allowing you to create unique waveforms to refine your harmonies and create breathtaking sounds. Add to that a bipolar low-pass filter and powerful distortion and you have a powerful analog palette to create deep bass, powerful leads, and the beautiful pads that are expected of a polyphonic synthesizer. Also note that the prologue is bi-timbral, and allows you to play two different programs simultaneously.

Despite its analog power, the prologue retains its ease of use and intuitive interface worthy of the latest KORG synthesizers. You will find on the panel the easy selection of channel modes (POLY, MONO, UNISSON, CHORD ...), the powerful arpeggiator, or the simplified selection (and sortable) of the 500 programs.

The freedom of digital

The ingenuity of the prologue goes beyond its analog design. Indeed, by adding to the original 2 VCOs a third MULTI ENGINE digital oscillator, KORG is exploring new experimental sites. This new engine, adding digital and FM waveforms, can be combined with analog VCOs to extend the sound potential of the prologue far beyond that of a traditional analog synthesizer. The noise generator, the VPM oscillator and the high-quality digital effects (modulation and delay / reverb) bring you complex metallic sounds and harmonics that you never thought possible.

Another novelty, and not least, this new engine MULTI ENGINE offers a USER mode that allows you to load oscillator programs of your own creation (and yes!) You can develop on the dedicated software (available in early spring 2018 ). There are sixteen slots for this parameter.

KORG manufacturing quality

Many waited for a Minilogue with big keys. In the end KORG did better, but still listened to users' comments. On the prologue, you'll find Japanese keyboards of 49 and 61 notes, with big keys, that offer the same feel and expression as the high end KORG keyboards.
Beyond the keyboard, KORG has really paid attention to the details of the overall design. The body of the prologue synthesizer offers a black aluminum panel, wooden side panels and metal potentiometers highlighting the beauty of the instrument that will be as comfortable on stage as in the studio.

The first copies of this powerful synthesizer should arrive in France in March. The price of the 8-way model should run around 1500 € and we are talking about 2000 € for the 16-channel version.
Unborn Gore
Looks awesome.
@realwiggler
Yes Please!! More Poly in 2018. applause

Fingers crossed for real cv I/O
mamsk
it looks beautiful...but 1 LFO?
GovernorSilver
Si c'est de la merde du bull, c'est la belle merde

anselmi
Luap
dubnspace wrote:

Hormone boosted version


Well thats a first!


hihi
dkcg
Nice...but mind blowing?? d'oh!

Seems kinda pricey for what it is since it's competing with Dave Smith's Rev2 at that cost.
anselmi
dkcg wrote:
Nice...but mind blowing?? d'oh!

Seems kinda pricey for what it is since it's competing with Dave Smith's Rev2 at that cost.


at this price I´d choose the rev2 in a heartbeat...the "logue" family sounds quite boring and lifeless to my ears...

quite a bad marketing move to put this synth into this category...for me it´s a "logue" synth, no matter the voice count and this overused korg digital engine...talking about that: I´m kinda sick of the VPM and all this digital models that korg put into any synth they released since the Prophecy...c´mon, that was 1995!
noikea
Korg Prologue

*EDIT -- added text translated from Italian*

Quote:
KORG PROLOGUE 8 AND PROLOGUE 16 SYNTH ANALOGUE POLYPHONIC
Written by Federico Alar Simonazzi
Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:06

Korg Prologue 8 and Prologue 16 analog polyphonic synthesizers equipped with a third digital oscillator, DSP 32bit effects, arpeggiator

50 years ago, Fumio Mieda he completed the first synthesizer KORG , the Prototype I . Since then, the famous Japanese company has made its way by designing and marketing innovative and often unique synthesizers, such as the new Prologue series which consists of two models: Prologue 8 , with 8 voices of polyphony and a 49-key keyboard, and Prologue 16with 16 voices of polyphony and a 61-key keyboard. Both models have a velocity-sensitive "natural touch" keyboard with standard keys (not mini) made in Japan. The front panel is made of black aluminum, the knobs are in metal, the silver indicators with diamond cut and the side panels are made of oak. These synthesizers are able to generate timbres that go well beyond the possibilities offered by the only subtractive analog synthesis, thanks to a circuitry consisting of 11,000 discrete electronic components inspired by the previous successful models, minilogue (click here for info ) and monologue ( click here for info), to which some important implementations have been made, including a new digital multi-synthesis system and a powerful DSP for the generation of quality effects. Despite the greater complexity of synthesis and processing, aesthetically Prologue 8 (709x348x118 mm, 7.5KG) and Prologue 16 (874x348x118mm; 9.1KG) do not lose the simplicity of interaction and the intuitive layout that distinguishes the subaltern models. Prologue features an OLED display for the real-time oscilloscope and a 6-digit alphanumeric 6-segment LED for the MULTI ENGINE section. The wheel equipment includes the classic Pitch Bend and Modulation; the latter can control different parameters according to the selected PROGRAM. Additional knobs exclusively available on the Prologue 16 are those portamento and voice spreads.

Korg Prologue offers a wide range of timbres, from incredibly dynamic and "full bodied" bass to powerful and penetrating leads, to rugs with a sure impact perfectly in line with the expectations of an instrument of this class: the TOP for the analog series of Korg house. Prologue is a bi-timbral synthesizer, which allows you to use two different programs simultaneously. The two tones can take various articulations: Layer, Split and Crossfade with the gradual transition between a main and a secondary tone. The Korg Prologue can accommodate up to 500 different sounds (250 factory presets ready and as many user memories for use). Thanks to the PROGRAM SORT functionwe can instantly change the sorting order of the 500 Programs, organizing them by category, alphabetically or numerically, according to the " LIKE " that is to those indicated as favorites, FREQUENT according to the frequency of use, ENVELOPE for the form of their envelope, random (RANDOM), or LIVE SET that collects the sounds saved during the live. In practice we can quickly select the sound we need through these 8 different sorting modes without interrupting the workflow.

Prologue offers various ways of articulating voices thanks to Voice Mode , which allows us to freely combine the 16 or 8 voices of the instrument. Standard POLY mode allows chords of up to 16 or 8 polyphony voices to be played, or by turning the VOICE MODE DEPTH knob you can switch to the DUO mode , in which the instrument configures in unison as an 8 or 4 voice synth. MONO is ideal for synth bass sounds, thanks also to the sub-oscillator. UNISON plays all the voices in unison, generating "Lead" sounds that are particularly powerful and incisive. CHORDallows you to make chords by pressing a single note. In addition to the two analog oscillators (with sawtooth, triangle and square waveforms), the synthesis of the Korg Prologue can count on a further multi-synthesis oscillator (the VCO 3) of new conception, with waveforms digital and FM synthesis. The sound generation section consists of 3 VCOs (2 analogs + 1 MULTI ENGINE), 1VCF, 2 EG, 1 VCA, and 1 LFO. Add to this the Wave Shaping to model the harmonics generated by the oscillators, the Sync / Ring functions, a precise 2-pole resonant low pass filter, the drive that adds distortion, and the low cut selector to activate the high pass filter. The VCO 3 offers three distinct configurations: Noise Generator, with its 4 types of noise, VPM (Variable Phase Modulation) / FM), of new conception and specially designed for the Prologue in order to reproduce waveforms rich in complex harmonics not obtainable in analogic, instead makes available 16 different selectable oscillator types. The third mode called USER widens even more the sound horizons of the instrument, thanks to the ability to load up to 16 different oscillators programmed through a special software librarian that will be downloadable from the Korg site. Supplied with the instrument we will find a preset morphing wavetable to occupy one of the 16 "User" slots.

The high-quality internal effects are the result of advanced 32-bit floating point DSP processing in real time and give further nuances and spatiality to the overall sound of Korg Prologue . There are two available effect units: the modulation one from which you can choose a wide variety of effect presets such as chorus (8 types), ensemble (3), phaser (8), flanger (8), and Delay / Reverb with 8 different types of selectable reverb and as many delays. Also the effects section is equipped with 16 " User " slots that allow to load programmable and transferable digital effects inside the product via software, as for the aforementioned "User" mode of the VCO 3. The Open API(Application Programming Interface) by Prologue allows to develop oscillators and effects in the form of codes that can be shared via the web with other users of the community; Korg will provide various sample codes. The Prologue arpeggiator extends up to 4 octaves and is supplied with 6 selectable arpeggio types (Manual, Rise, Fall, Rise Fall, Random, Poly Random) with the possibility of intervening on the time and the extension of the notes.

LF Comp is an exclusive of the Prologue 16 . This is an effect applicable to the instrument's Master output, completely based on analog circuitry and specially designed for this version of the synth. This compressor / booster is able to give the general sound of the synthesizer more presence and body on the bass, impossible to obtain with a simple EQ. Here is explained the presence of a nice VU Meter for monitoring the Gain Reduction. The audio connections of the two models of the Prologue seriesthey include a pair of outputs (L and R) on ¼ "unbalanced jacks and a headphone output always on ¼" jacks. Then we have MIDI input and output on standard pentapolar DIN connectors and USB type B port for computer connection, input (20 V) and output (5V) in 1/8 "(3.5mm) mini-jack format for reception and pulse transmission for the analog sync, and two separate connections for the expression and damper pedals (half dampers not supported).






bhinton
Dear Korg: The Prologue is very pretty. But a PS-3400 (a PS-3300 with expanded patching to allow so-called west-coast techniques and experimentation) is the one piece of Korg hardware that might inspire me to reach for my wallet.
At least you're doing something not totally ordinary with OSC3, though. And the ergonomics / playability seem solid based on the images.
Sir Ruff
Bonus points for the interesting digital oscillator, but it feels like they really skimped on other stuff. One LFO to only one destination at a time feels practically mean these days.

And of course we still need to hear how it sounds.
chvad
Sir Ruff wrote:
Bonus points for the interesting digital oscillator, but it feels like they really skimped on other stuff. One LFO to only one destination at a time feels practically mean these days.


The OB-6 and Prophet 6 have only one LFO and fair well enough. Of course.. always great to have more but 1 LFO is OK if the rest sounds cool.

Sir Ruff wrote:
And of course we still need to hear how it sounds.


hopefully cool!
SteeVtheRipper
chvad wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Bonus points for the interesting digital oscillator, but it feels like they really skimped on other stuff. One LFO to only one destination at a time feels practically mean these days.


The OB-6 and Prophet 6 have only one LFO and fair well enough. Of course.. always great to have more but 1 LFO is OK if the rest sounds cool.

Sir Ruff wrote:
And of course we still need to hear how it sounds.


hopefully cool!


I agree but that LFO on the P6 and OB6 can be directed to more than one place at a time. I read 6 on the OB6 LFO mod section. Plus you can use VCO2 as an LFO. So it's not quite the same, unless theres some under the hood programming we're not aware of, some kind of matrix.

My suspicion is that it's going to be a case of wysiwyg. But if it sounds great then it could certainly be a contender. It won't be for everyone, expecially not those who would want to use it as a controller, no AT is a pretty odd omission on a modern keyboard of any variety (looking at you too Nord).
Knights Who Say Neve
Fingers crossed that it has the alternate tuning/scale features of the monologue...
noikea
[s]https://soundcloud.com/korg/sets/prologue-demo-song[/s]

Demo sounds up on offical Korg soundcloud

EDIT2: Seem to be back up.

Here was the link:

https://soundcloud.com/korg/sets/prologue-demo-song
greymadr
chvad wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Bonus points for the interesting digital oscillator, but it feels like they really skimped on other stuff. One LFO to only one destination at a time feels practically mean these days.


The OB-6 and Prophet 6 have only one LFO and fair well enough. Of course.. always great to have more but 1 LFO is OK if the rest sounds cool.


One LFO destination would be far too limiting, I feel. That is why I have to assume that maybe the toggle is just to modify the intensity of the current selection, and storing the value when switching it. Please, Korg, say it's so.
noikea
Official site is live:

http://www.korg.com/au/products/synthesizers/prologue/
dumbledog
Knights Who Say Neve wrote:
Fingers crossed that it has the alternate tuning/scale features of the monologue...

Owner's manual is up and looks like it does not.
JohnLRice
dumbledog wrote:
Knights Who Say Neve wrote:
Fingers crossed that it has the alternate tuning/scale features of the monologue...

Owner's manual is up and looks like it does not.
I don't know what will be possible but there is supposed to be an SDK coming in the spring where people can program their own voices and effects.
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