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Felix's Performance System - Your Help needed

Post by felix » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:54 pm

Alright kids. I've been working on putting together this small performance system since the buchla lust died down. I'm not looking to replicate the buchla 1:1 feature wise, but I am looking at smaller size, high function density modules that, when put together, provide an extremely wide range of function.

I'm very happy with what I've arrived at so far, however, there's 8HP unaccounted for (ignore that 7HP space on the bottom row - it's reserved), and that's where you come in.

I'm looking for suggestions for how to best fill that 8HP. It definitely needs to be functionally dense (at least 2 different features) and be something that cannot be achieved with any of the other modules. I'm not totally sold on the Wave Splicer yet, so it could be 12HP. Of course, it doesn't need to be 8HP consecutive either, it could be 2x 4HP modules.

A final note, I'll be making my own attenuators, mults, and a passive mixer as part of the case, so those functions will be taken care of. I'll likely incorporate my joysticks as well.

THANKS!!! :party:

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Post by dkcg » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:58 pm

If it's a performance system, maybe a headphone elf to do some monitoring before sending a signal into the main mix?

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Post by felix » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:10 pm

That's a good point, I just bought one actually, but it looks simple enough to make and incorporate into the case along with the mults and all that.

I'm keeping it tentative though.
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Post by dkcg » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:17 pm

No ringmods?

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Post by felix » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:20 pm

This is going on the assumption that the Hertz Donut will have amplitude modulation. If it doesn't end up having it, I'll chuck the ModDemod in there.
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Post by Roycie Roller » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:22 pm

That looks like a mad system, & something along the lines of what i'd go for. Don't really know what to recommend, but i'd probably lose one Polivoks, one Polyphonic envelope & the Zorlon Cannon, and replace them with the MakeNoise QMMG & ModDemod.

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Post by Soy Sos » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:46 pm

Agreed about the double Polivoks because there are so many great filters in Euro. The double Hertz I guess if that suits your tonal aesthetic better than anything else. But I would be wary about Plan B stuff that hasn't come out yet though. What about LFO's? What ever you do, it looks like it will be a lot of fun. You will most likely end up switching some stuff around through trial and experimentation anyway.
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Post by MrDys » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:57 pm

I'd throw an ELF LFO in there as well as a Doepfer 172 max/min.

Depending when this all comes together (there's a lot of unreleased stuff in this configuration), a STG Mankato would probably be a good multifunctional addition.

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Post by Cybananna » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:25 pm

great idea for the headphone amp, but now I want one..

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Post by A Dingleberry Monstrosity » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:36 pm

how are you making a passive mixer?

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Post by felix » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:13 pm

Re: LFOs - the Hertz Donut has both Primary and Modulator oscillators in one module and each can be patched out separately, so I think LFOs will be taken care of from that. The M10s can also be triangle or sawtooth LFOs.

Re: Double Polivoks - I like the sound of the polivoks and it does offer both LP and BP, has at least one bipolar atten for CV input *and* has more than one audio input with attenuators. It's also relatively small, and has the added benefit that 2x polivoks leaves 8HP open on the top row, where as 1x leaves 18HP, which doesn't always break down evenly. It would also give the opportunity for stereo filtering, which I really like and have not been so pleased with when using two different types of filters.

Re: Weariness of unreleased Plan B - Yeah I'm most worried about the Mini-Milton, based mainly on the history of the real Milton. There's more people at Plan B now, and there certainly seems to be more of plan for releasing modules now then there has been before. I will no doubt be a waiting game. However, in terms of size and features I could not find replacements for the triple VCA and the Mini-Milton.

The main focus of this system is cramming the most function into the smallest amount of space. I also tried to not take the "what do I use most approach" in terms of how I make sounds on my current system. I want to put together something where I don't feel like I miss my big system if all I have at my disposal is this one. I think I have achieved that (for me personally of course), save for that 8HP on the top row. ;)
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Post by Leisure Cove » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:02 pm

Looks great, Felix! Would tossing in Doepfer's A-166 Dual Logic module make sense? It's 8HP, has two And/Or circuits and two voltage inverters in it. Plus, on the Buchla tip, there are blinking lights aplenty.

I'm planning on getting one soon-ish. Looks handy!

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Post by felix » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:24 pm

Leisure Cove wrote:Looks great, Felix! Would tossing in Doepfer's A-166 Dual Logic module make sense? It's 8HP, has two And/Or circuits and two voltage inverters in it. Plus, on the Buchla tip, there are blinking lights aplenty.
Haha, that's funny, that's exactly what I was thinking about last night! I was playing around with it and the Zorlon last night and it leads to some really interesting rhythms. I'll make some demos tonight. One thing about the inverters is that they are logic inverters, not quite the same as a "regular" voltage inverter. For example, if you feed a gate signal into one of the inverters, when the gate signal is high, the output will be low ("0"). When the input is low ("0" - no gate) then the output is high. It actually makes great "clock doubler" in combination with one of the OR outputs.

@ADM - passive mixer will just be a couple jacks, (probably) 100k pots for each, and a single output. Like the first example on this page for example, but with pots (variable resistors) instead of [static] resistors.
http://www.nirvis.com/mixers.htm
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