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flx
Hey, I thought I'd make a thread for Klangbau Köln discussion, because so far it has been scattered all over various other threads, mostly about the Twin Peak Filter, and it's difficult to find.

cool What's Klangbau Köln?
It's a modular synth manufacturer from Cologne, Germany:
https://xn--klangbaukln-zfb.de/
http: //klangbauköln.de


screaming goo yo What's the deal?
The way I see it, the modules and their application all follow a certain chaotic (not random!) rhythm and sound generation concept, with inspiration from analog computing, Rob Hordijk, probably a little bit of Serge and more. It's less about making a typical musical pop song and more about soundscape exploration, although Klangbau's oscillators generally do track 1V/Oct nicely. The modules often feature a little something "special", like clever normalisation (e.g. amplitude-to-pitch tracking on the Twin Peak filter and resonator) or an added feature on a seemingly simple and standard module (like the S&H with feedback).


Where can I get the modules?
Write Klangbau an email for the current price list and shipping options:
https://xn--klangbaukln-zfb.de/kontakt-adresse-telefon-email-klangbauk oeln-koeln/


w00t What's my connection to Klangbau?
I live in the same city and know Klangbau for a couple of years now. I first bought the Tube VCA module, picked it up and came back for more and more:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J6yS-kMc9M&index=4&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_Z EiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


hmmm..... Tell me about some of the modules!

The Tube VCA was one of the first modules and rather popular, as it was relatively small but used a real tube to add some nice crunch to your sounds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKWdkli4UBw&t=0s&index=2&list=PLa9Em_H 8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLX_WnM5Hac


Then there is Klangbau's version of Rob Hordijk's Twin Peak VCF and the new version, the Twin Peak Resonator, letting you create those iconic filter ping and vowel sounds!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKAm0zr8IA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD5hqVF6MDA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bImXyKv18A&t=0s&index=7&list=PLa9Em_H 8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


A small but beautiful module is the Logistic Equation, a chaotic CV sequencer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMozPzJxBxk&t=324s&index=3&list=PLa9Em _H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


For a brief period of time, there was also a Klangbau Benjolin.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFfQTWMHPeU&t=0s&index=17&list=PLa9Em_ H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


Other modules in the lineup are a new Thru-Zero VCO, the XR-VCO which tracks 1V/oct over 7 octaves, a Wavefolder with two VCAs on board, a VCF with feedback and VC resonance, etc.



Rockin' Banana! Let's hear those things in action!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UsjC1n75Jo&t=199s&index=8&list=PLa9Em _H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB0HoEg7Kdw&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeC VFXNUhJzbz29Q&index=1


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUYXZy_HCZU&index=1&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_Z EiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z5O-RDN1yM&t=0s&index=82&list=PL5AAC6 1D0DF9D715D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtyzAjfU09A&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeC VFXNUhJzbz29Q&index=28


Miley Cyrus More media:
Instagram feeds for the #klangbauköln and #klangbaukoln tags:
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/klangbauk%C3%B6ln/
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/klangbaukoln/

ModularGrid:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor =290


Guinness ftw! Alright, let's talk! Who else has some Klangbau in their racks?
flx
Some quotes from other threads:


About the Logistic Equation:
101010oxo wrote:

I use and quite like the combo "Logistische Gleichung" and a trigger delay. There was a good article (in German) in "Synthesizer Magazin" no. 52 that can be bought (as pdf) here: http://synmag.1a-shops.eu/

klangbauer wrote:
LogGleichung or LogEquation is an algorythm borrowed from Biolocy. It describes up and downs of two populations. See diagram from flx, it is called "Feigenbaum diagramm".
It has a limit and unpredictable phases. The random part we use for our module. Becaus it is chaotic it produces selfsimilar results. I call it melodies, because it is not radically random.

At the moment we are developing a real analog version, with more live inside. Because it is a module that calculates, it is an "Analog Computer" device with a real S/H for feeback.

See Doepfer´s page and look at patch samples. You can try to patch it in your system also, luck.

best klangbaukoeln

101010oxo wrote:

http://www.doepfer.de/a100_man/a100_patch.htm

Look for "Chaos Patch"

Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137656&highlight=


About the Twin Peak VCF:
timoka wrote:
here is a demonstration of the wonderful twin peak filter by klangbauköln/rob hordjik as pinged filter:

nothing too musical, but it shows that you can get some great pings out of this filter! so thank you klangbauköln for this perfect modul!

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/twin-peak-filter[/s]

timoka wrote:
here is another demo, more varying, less musical:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/twin-peak-filter-various[/s]

timoka wrote:
received a second twin peak filter from klangbau köln. these are beasts!
quad peak rhythm with some tube distortion and a looped bit from clouds as "shaker":

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/quadpeak[/s]

brandonlogic wrote:
i did a little Epoch Twin Peak vs the Klangbau Twin Peak filter sound comparison.

From 0 to 3:45 i'm filtering a square wave from the Sputnik Oscillator through the Klangbau then through the Epoch. from 3:45 to 8:40 i'm using only triggers from Mutable Instruments Grids into the audio inputs of the filters (and multing to mod a and b of the Epoch). Here, the Epoch is panned hard left and the Klangbau hard right. from 8:40 untill the end, it's back to the sputnik square and some random wiggling of both filters at onece, still panned hard left and right.

Recording is completely dry, no effects or eq. In this demo, i'm using animodule line amp as a buffered mult to split the signal going into the audio input of the epoch to also go into the peak a and peak b mod inputs of the Epoch. This is because this is similar to how the Klangbau's Tr-F1 adn Tr-F2 controls are internally wired. I am using channel two of the line amp to boost the output of the epoch because it tends to output below standard euro modular level. line amp helps boot it normal euro levels. The Epoch requires more patching for this comparison but it also has more cv inputs for modulation and is a little more flexible under cv control and is easier to fine tune with it's knobs compared to the Klangbau's joystick, which make it hard to dial in two specific filter frequencies to track with other oscillators and v/oct, although the joystick is nice for improv and performance . you might notice that the Klangbau sometimes has a little clipping or distortion. from my experience this is part of the character of the the Klangbau version, which can sound nice! it can be controlled to some extent with the input level knob. The Klangbau will consistently self resonate with the resonance all the way up, so it is capable of longer sustaining rings . the Epoch does not self resonate like this without modulation/pings.


Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126024&highlight=

About the Twin Peak Resonator:
nectarios wrote:
The Klangbau Twin Peak Resonator has a hot output and sweet saturation close to full CW input.

brandonlogic wrote:

keep in mind the input attenuation knob on the klangbau in that video is only at 1 or 2:00. when its all the way up, it can definitely become a lot more gritty and overdriven. i prefer the klangbau, to me its bolder, thicker sounding and has stronger resonance.
...
watch/listen to more demos. the way it sounds should be the most important factor, more so that cost and panel layout, imo.

i always like to share this set of klangbau twin peak demos/tracks because these are what sold it for me originally and uzala is amazing.!
https://soundcloud.com/uzala/sets/klangbau-k-ln-twin-peak-filter

Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=189330&highlight=


About the XR-VCO:
somonochrome wrote:

it is very loud indeed but really nice sounding. the sine is not sterile clean but sounded great in any FM context, the pulse with pwm is great too.
the waveshaper was pretty similar to the STOs but i actually liked the klangbau better!

Source: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=167779&highlight=
visible cow
I just placed an order for two röhren VCAs yesterday.

I love the raw look of his modules.
southphillysynths
I've had the joystick twinpeak for a weeks now. It sounds absolutely incredible and liquid. One of the best sounds modules I've ever owned for sure!

Looking forward to future designs from him!
Dcramer
Great explanation on the LE.
Some years ago I managed to get the Doepfer patch example up and running.
It was fascinating as it just seemed to jump into life once I got all the settings within proper range. thumbs up
flx
Here's another weird all-Klangbau module jam, plus Kosmonaut Delay and AUFX:Space Reverb nanners


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtyzAjfU09A&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_ZEiHWQDeC VFXNUhJzbz29Q&index=28


southphillysynths wrote:

Looking forward to future designs from him!

I really need to check out the new Thru-Zero VCO. I already got a demonstration and it might work really well together with the nicely FM-able XR-VCO.


visible cow wrote:
I just placed an order for two röhren VCAs yesterday.
I love the raw look of his modules.

The Tube VCA is really nice. Post some links to what you do with it if you put some sounds/music online then cool
nectarios
Twin Peaks Resonator as sound source (I did that "Twin Peak Resonator Band Pass" video as well).



brandonlogic
The twin peak resonator and twin peak filter might be my favorite eurorack modules. I can say with more confidence that I will never sell them than any other module. They sound just too good and unique. They have become part of my sound. Lucky they are built like fucking tanks too SlayerBadger!
flx
Dcramer wrote:
Great explanation on the LE.
Some years ago I managed to get the Doepfer patch example up and running.
It was fascinating as it just seemed to jump into life once I got all the settings within proper range. thumbs up

Thanks! I'd love to try out the Dopefer patch. As you wrote, it's probably quite rewarding. It's interesting how musical the results of the Logistic Equation are. At first sight I thought it would just be some kind of S&H d'oh!
flx
Some more jamming on the all-Klangbau system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUYXZy_HCZU&index=1&list=PLa9Em_H8Xs_Z EiHWQDeCVFXNUhJzbz29Q
NathansModular
Everything I have heard has been dreamy Agony!
nectarios
Besides the brilliant sounds, just want to say that the Twin Peak Resonator is the best built module in my system. Its built like a tank and it oozes quality.
suthnear
Is the twin peak resonator the same filter core as the twin peak filter? Aside from the controls, are there any other differences?
suthnear
And wow those uzala rhythm demos are good...
ookrsia
suthnear wrote:
Is the twin peak resonator the same filter core as the twin peak filter? Aside from the controls, are there any other differences?


I've got the newer Resonator and there are a few differences.

-Instead of the joystick there are two separate knobs for frequency of each filter.
-There is a knob to make filter 2 FM modulate filter 1.
-And a knob to go from bandpass to low pass. Only filter 1 works in lowpass mode.

The addition of FM at least adds a lot of possibilities. I only wish there was CV control for this. This is one of those knobs that you end up playing a lot with while playing.
flx
EDIT: want he said /\/\/\
suthnear
Thanks for that. Guess I want the resonator
brandonlogic
ookrsia wrote:
suthnear wrote:
Is the twin peak resonator the same filter core as the twin peak filter? Aside from the controls, are there any other differences?


I've got the newer Resonator and there are a few differences.

-Instead of the joystick there are two separate knobs for frequency of each filter.
-There is a knob to make filter 2 FM modulate filter 1.
-And a knob to go from bandpass to low pass. Only filter 1 works in lowpass mode.

The addition of FM at least adds a lot of possibilities. I only wish there was CV control for this. This is one of those knobs that you end up playing a lot with while playing.


i have both to, a couple other differences, at least in mine:

The Joystick version's resonance is a little stronger, self resonate stronger/more intense.

The joystick version is also capable of a little more aggressive overdrive/saturation imo. Klangbau even stated that in the resonator has some circuitry changes that cleans up the overdrive that the joystick one has.

so, to me, they are different enough to justify having/keeping both!


I tend to use the joystick one more for self ping/percussion sounds more and the resonator one for actual filtering of vcos
DeltaTucanae
brandonlogic wrote:

I tend to use the joystick one more for self ping/percussion sounds more and the resonator one for actual filtering of vcos


Thanks for this. Have been trying to decide which would be better for pinging/percussion.
timoka
i have two joystick versions and they sound quite different, first the faceplate is mirrored so they look really cool next to each other, one has a dedicated 1v/oct input however it doesn't track that well. one goes into self oscillation the other doesn't, one can overdrive the input pretty hard the other can not. both together are a dreamteam and i really like that they have different flavours, just like lpg, every unit is a bit different! the only problem i have is that they don't fit in my travel case, which is a shame and i wish there's a possibility to hack them into a shallower case...
timoka
[s]http://soundcloud.com/marionettelabel/b1-kilchhofer-hedha[/s]

this track uses both twin peak versions i have.
ookrsia
Interesting to hear that there are such differences between two same modules.

Someone mentioned that they like to use the non-joystick Resonator to filter VCO's, but I find mine quite tricky in those kinds of workcases – sometimes a millimeter makes a huge difference.

My Resonator is an awesome sound source (pings, etc) though! It has an impressively large range of possible sounds.
ookrsia
I wish there was more information available (demos basically) of some of the Klangbau modules.

There's stuff like the Thru Zero VCO, the XR VCO, the Wavefolder which do have their own webpage, but there's only a pic and a couple lines of text.
flx
ookrsia wrote:
I wish there was more information available (demos basically) of some of the Klangbau modules.

There's stuff like the Thru Zero VCO, the XR VCO, the Wavefolder which do have their own webpage, but there's only a pic and a couple lines of text.

That's why I made this thread. Hopefully we can pool some information here smile I bought an XR-VCO a few years ago (the big version) and I'll see if I can do a demo. The TZ VCO is brand new and I haven't played with it yet. I did get a demonstration though and it seems to do FM really well with the XR.
sendepause
Been eyeballing the Twin Peak filter for a long long time. Only reason why haven't ordered one is because it's 60mm deep. Impossible to fit in a travel case.

flx
Found an old jam of mine where the final mix goes through the Klangbau Tube VCA. Plus sounds from the Wavetable DCO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3HKP_TR_z8&list=PL5AAC61D0DF9D715D&in dex=136
brandonlogic
sendepause wrote:
Been eyeballing the Twin Peak filter for a long long time. Only reason why haven't ordered one is because it's 60mm deep. Impossible to fit in a travel case.



Just get the twin peak resonator, it’s not as deep.
A pic for size reference:
sendepause
brandonlogic wrote:

Just get the twin peak resonator, it’s not as deep.
A pic for size reference:



...Oh.... we're not worthy

Now let's see if the kids have some money in their piggy banks...
ishi
They will be at Superbooth.. Excellent opportunity to give those modules a try smile
ishi
Site was down for a while, here's the info:

Spuerbooth 2018
Klangbau Köln ist im FEZ in Berlin bei der „Superbooth 2018“.
Einmalige Chance die Module gleich zu testen.
Standort ist das 2. OG, 0504.
Bis bald
cjbattagl
I was in Cologne and stopped by KBK --- Willi was super friendly, I snagged a resonator, and I'm loving it (it also survived in my backpack, without a box, for a week while i trekked around europe)

ishi
Have been watching & listening to some video's. Amazing! Another incentive to travel to Berlin in a few weeks smile
visible cow
cjbattagl wrote:
I was in Cologne and stopped by KBK --- Willi was super friendly, I snagged a resonator, and I'm loving it (it also survived in my backpack, without a box, for a week while i trekked around europe)



Slight derail.....does anyone know what suitcase that is that he's using in this pic? I'm looking for a 19" rack compatible suitcase right now and am having trouble finding one slim enough.

Back on topic: my rohren VCAs arrived this afternoon and am about to go check them out. The build looks great and shipping was surprisingly fast from Germany to Georgia.
flx
visible cow wrote:

Slight derail.....does anyone know what suitcase that is that he's using in this pic? I'm looking for a 19" rack compatible suitcase right now and am having trouble finding one slim enough.


It's a Thon mixer rack case:
https://www.thomann.de/gb/thon_racks.html

another great alternative:
https://www.prolighting.de/zubehoer/cases-racks-taschen/cases-fuer-mis chpulte/roadcase-fuer-6-he-steuerpulte-wie-scene-setter-24-showmaster- 24.html

visible cow
Thank you very much. That DAP audio slanted case looks absolutely perfect for me but I can't find a vendor willing to ship to the US. hmmm.....
emojiseq
anyone had luck replacing the knobs on theirs, or have an idea what size might replace them? just ordered, can't wait smile MY ASS IS BLEEDING
flec8
I have two twin peak resonators. One of the best modules I've had the opportunity to work with. Here is something I put together using just one, DLD and some percussion on top.

[s]https://soundcloud.com/absoundsource/klangbaukoln-twin-peak-resonat or-1[/s]
flec8
I have two twin peak resonators. One of the best modules I've had the opportunity to work with. Here is something I put together using just one, DLD and some percussion on top.

[s]https://soundcloud.com/absoundsource/klangbaukoln-twin-peak-resonat or-1[/s]
schege
Did someone tried Willies Trough Zero Oscillator? Any experiences?
timoka
flec8 wrote:
I have two twin peak resonators. One of the best modules I've had the opportunity to work with. Here is something I put together using just one, DLD and some percussion on top.

[s]https://soundcloud.com/absoundsource/klangbaukoln-twin-peak-resonat or-1[/s]


i would love to hear it, however it's loading since 10 days... smile

here's the embedded track:

[s]http://bit.ly/2zmC4i0[/s]

you have to remove the "s" from https and shorten the soundcloud link with bitly or something like that if the link is too long.
flec8
timoka wrote:
flec8 wrote:
I have two twin peak resonators. One of the best modules I've had the opportunity to work with. Here is something I put together using just one, DLD and some percussion on top.

[s]https://soundcloud.com/absoundsource/klangbaukoln-twin-peak-resonat or-1[/s]


i would love to hear it, however it's loading since 10 days... smile

here's the embedded track:

[s]http://bit.ly/2zmC4i0[/s]

you have to remove the "s" from https and shorten the soundcloud link with bitly or something like that if the link is too long.



Thanks for fixing that link for me! lol

I just sent one of my resonators back for some repairs today.
They always acted differently, but I began to suspect one of them was actually wonky when I was trying to really dial in a pseudo 4 voice patch.
It would begin to self oscillate at the 50% resonance point, where as the other would do it around 90-95%. It also had a lot of noise even when RES was at 0%. hmmm.....

Willi was awesome in communication and made sure we tried everything before I actually mailed it over. So far one of the best manufacturer's I've dealt with, really exceptional.
vromr
flx wrote:
Hey, I thought I'd make a thread for Klangbau Köln discussion,


Wow! Tuesday Night Machines, one of my favorite synth-module demo bands!! Rockin' Banana!
I genuinely love your demos and Klangbau Koln is tops on my wishlist.
Jaypee
Do these modules fit in a Tiptop Mantis case?
Eurtrude
Jaypee wrote:
Do these modules fit in a Tiptop Mantis case?


Which one ? They are not the same depth...

Twin Resonator : yes
Twin Peaks : no...

Don't know for others...
flec8
flec8 wrote:


I just sent one of my resonators back for some repairs today.
They always acted differently, but I began to suspect one of them was actually wonky when I was trying to really dial in a pseudo 4 voice patch.
It would begin to self oscillate at the 50% resonance point, where as the other would do it around 90-95%. It also had a lot of noise even when RES was at 0%. hmmm.....

Willi was awesome in communication and made sure we tried everything before I actually mailed it over. So far one of the best manufacturer's I've dealt with, really exceptional.


Well, I should not have even tried to ship anywhere close to the holidays.
Item was held in Germany for weeks and now it's being sent back to me by DHL, unrepaired and with an ETA of 8 weeks... seriously, i just don't get it
joskery
Oh my, sorry to hear that!

Not to add to the frustration, but I had a problem with a recent order, and Willi was absolutely wonderful in the way he handled the situation. I was pleasantly astounded.
autopoiesis
flec8 wrote:
flec8 wrote:


I just sent one of my resonators back for some repairs today.
They always acted differently, but I began to suspect one of them was actually wonky when I was trying to really dial in a pseudo 4 voice patch.
It would begin to self oscillate at the 50% resonance point, where as the other would do it around 90-95%. It also had a lot of noise even when RES was at 0%. hmmm.....

Willi was awesome in communication and made sure we tried everything before I actually mailed it over. So far one of the best manufacturer's I've dealt with, really exceptional.


Well, I should not have even tried to ship anywhere close to the holidays.
Item was held in Germany for weeks and now it's being sent back to me by DHL, unrepaired and with an ETA of 8 weeks... seriously, i just don't get it


par for the course with German couriership thumbs up

Willi is awesome though.
Dogma
Just got mine - yeah Wills awesome - got a final note saying "calibrated and tested for a day - enjoy"

And enjoying i am! My god this is just one giant sweet spot. This is what i wanted from the Res-4...crazy in love
sienisetä
I have a Twin Peak Resonator and a Röhren VCA on their way screaming goo yo

Does anyone know how much mA the Radio music uses, is it same as the Music Thing version?
autopoiesis
Anyone own an XR-VCO or a TZ-VCO? I'm curious about the purity of their sinewaves, how the sine-to-ramp waveshaping works on the XR (on his website Willi mentions it as being different from the Thomas Henry design), and how the TZFM on the TZ sounds compared to some of the other analog options out there (Rubicon, Doepfer A-110-4). A pair of these two looks on paper like a really cost and space efficient analog dual complex oscillator option.
Biom
Does anyone keep in touch with Willi?
Messaged him a week ago trying to make an order. He sent me the price list and disappeared. I thought, maybe he's assembling the module and let him know, that I could wait till it's ready, but still not a word from him.
I also used the contact form on his site, but without success either.

I just can't get if this is normal for him and should I keep waiting a bit longer or not.
I also hope all is fine with him and his relatives and that it's not the case of the silence.
bago
I ordered a Resonator from him 5 days ago (he had some already build ones). His latest mail included his pricelist. I payed immediatly and didn‘t hear anything since. I will wait a few more days, perhaps he has already send the module and forgot to tell me about it...
degeneratedsines
@bago you didn't try to make a trade in person, since you seem to live nearby?
bago
I thought about that, but I‘m all covered with work at the moment and so I decided to order.
loopt
It's carnival in Cologne. Can be a mad time. w00t
It will be over on Wednesday.
bago
My Resonator just arrived applause
Biom
Finally managed to order mine. Had the weirdest communication in my life, like talking to a genius and I hope he really is!

@bago: congratulations!
sko87pro
Hi Klangbau Wigglers,

I am thinking about ordering the twin peak resonator, it sounds great.

Can anyone tell me, how do you make the sound at the start of this video? (0:05s). What is the main module involved? Is it the twin peak and/or something else? Would like to make sounds like this:

https://youtu.be/mWcy9DrcsmY

Cheers
nectarios
sko87pro wrote:
Hi Klangbau Wigglers,

I am thinking about ordering the twin peak resonator, it sounds great.

TheCan anyone tell me, how do you make the sound at the start of this video? (0:05s). What is the main module involved? Is it the twin peak and/or something else? Would like to make sounds like this:

https://youtu.be/mWcy9DrcsmY

Cheers

Looks like Benjolin and mentions it in the description "w/ Rob Hordijk Benjolin"
flx
sko87pro wrote:
Hi Klangbau Wigglers,

I am thinking about ordering the twin peak resonator, it sounds great.

TheCan anyone tell me, how do you make the sound at the start of this video? (0:05s). What is the main module involved? Is it the twin peak and/or something else? Would like to make sounds like this:

https://youtu.be/mWcy9DrcsmY

Cheers


Hi! That’s my video. Indeed, at the beginning it was just the Benjolin with high filter resonance and rungler modulation through the Spring Reverb. The Twin Peak is the more pronounced ping then a few seconds later.
sko87pro
Quote:
Hi! That’s my video. Indeed, at the beginning it was just the Benjolin with high filter resonance and rungler modulation through the Spring Reverb. The Twin Peak is the more pronounced ping then a few seconds later.


That clip with the Benjolin sounds great!

Do you think the Benjolin could get close to these sounds? I really like the dripping water-and-static sounds that are produced at 1:10 onwards:

https://youtu.be/YbHZF-f1qc8?t=1m10s

Maybe I need both TW Peak and Benjolin...!
flx
sko87pro wrote:

Maybe I need both TW Peak and Benjolin...!

Of course you do hihi

My Benjolin's filter does not go into self-oscillation, which I think is how most Benjolins perform as far as I know. It does however get some dry/woody ping sounds at high resonance settings and hard edges from the pulse generators. I think you could come relatively close to the sounds in that video. A Twin Peak filter gives you a wider range of ping sounds though, but of course requires external signal generators.



On a different note, I made a new Klangbau video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xusf3UvYAoY

Not focused on pings this time, but analog FM, layered with subtle pings and sounds from the Wavetable DCO.
sko87pro
flx wrote:
I think you could come relatively close to the sounds in that video. A Twin Peak filter gives you a wider range of ping sounds though, but of course requires external signal generators.

On a different note, I made a new Klangbau video:


Thanks for another great video!! I think I’m going to go for the TP Resonator to add to my 6U system. The pings and FM are great. I was wondering whether it was flexible enough for regular filter duties like plain old raspy sweeps. But I can hear it’s got a decent range of sounds and its own very interesting voice and coloration.

Really like those static-water-crackle sounds above, hopefully I can emulate those and have fun trying...
smithjohn
I made some drum sounds with the Twin peak resonator, Röhren VCA+a noise source and some envelopes, and holy drum Batman the results were amazing. Got even a pretty realistic tambourine hit It's peanut butter jelly time!
sko87pro
Yippee, my Twin Peak Resonator has arrived from Willi... very excited to try this thing out!

I am thinking about swapping the knobs, has anyone done this? What size would I need? Do I just prise them off?

Perhaps something like these, the un-skirted style:



from:
https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/knobs-small-fluted/
pieter
Yeah, you can just prise them off. They're not D-shaft (they're the same as Doepfer), so I don't know if those will work...
sko87pro
pieter wrote:
They're not D-shaft (they're the same as Doepfer), so I don't know if those will work...

Ok cool thanks. I think Doepfer is 6mm spline so I’ll research that.

I’m sure there’s lots of MW threads on knobs, for example here.

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vingtdieux
we're not worthy Klangbau Köln
cheapimitation
really thinking of finally getting twin peak resonator...
i am on the waiting list for blippoo box but not sure how long it will take...

only wondering if i am patient enough to wait for blippoo and if twin peak resonator with blippoo is "unnecessary" to have.
bemushroomed
What's the price for the Resonator filter? Anyone have a price list? Not sure what the deal is with the secrecy..
pieter
I paid €330 + €15 shipping to the UK.
bemushroomed
pieter wrote:
I paid €330 + €15 shipping to the UK.


Thanks!
autopoiesis
really wish someone could speak to the TZ VCO. it's the least-HP through zero FM analog oscillator with an FM index VCA on the market and Willi's other modules have sounded consistently so good, but i know of no modular shops that stock his stuff for demo purposes.
brandonlogic
autopoiesis wrote:
really wish someone could speak to the TZ VCO. it's the least-HP through zero FM analog oscillator with an FM index VCA on the market and Willi's other modules have sounded consistently so good, but i know of no modular shops that stock his stuff for demo purposes.


the doepfer A-110-4 is less hp
autopoiesis
the a110-4 is 2hp less but doesn't have a VCA after the XFM input like the klangbau (or rubicon of course) does, nor does it have standard wave outputs besides the sine and cosine. it does sound incredible though, I've primarily been spooked from trying it after reading about people needing to high pass their modulation oscillators with it because of some DC offset issues.
brandonlogic
autopoiesis wrote:
the a110-4 is 2hp less but doesn't have a VCA after the XFM input like the klangbau (or rubicon of course) does, nor does it have standard wave outputs besides the sine and cosine. it does sound incredible though, I've primarily been spooked from trying it after reading about people needing to high pass their modulation oscillators with it because of some DC offset issues.


I'd does require a dc offset if you need stable pitch while modulating fm amount (vca before the fm input). I normally only modulate the frequency of the modulator not the level so its not an issue for me. or i'm using it for more abstract sounds where pitch isnt as important.

but yeah, i am interested in the klnagbau tzfm osc too, to see how it compares.
airfrankenstein
autopoiesis wrote:
Anyone own an XR-VCO or a TZ-VCO? I'm curious about the purity of their sinewaves, how the sine-to-ramp waveshaping works on the XR (on his website Willi mentions it as being different from the Thomas Henry design), and how the TZFM on the TZ sounds compared to some of the other analog options out there (Rubicon, Doepfer A-110-4). A pair of these two looks on paper like a really cost and space efficient analog dual complex oscillator option.



I just received a TZ-VCO...so far it sounds really good. Tracks well you can also go wild with it. I'm still learning. Hope to post a demo shortly.

Willi explains how his module differs from the others well :
> TZ-VCO technique we developed to produce these special FM-sounds in an
> analog way. The core is to multiply VCO frequ. with modulation frequ.
> (Doepfer A110-4 and B. Hutchins TZ-VCO described in EN 129 don't do it,
> therefore it is not a complete lin-TZ modulation, but useful for static
> sounds, not for transposition). Rubicon from Dixon (intelljel) is a full
> TZ-VCO and sounds similar to ours, but offered a lot of things, not
> necessary for FM-sounds.
>
> Doepfer A-110-4 was originally designed by Wamsley for frequency
> shifters. I use it in my "Frequency shifter system" (you need two Dome
> filters and tow high class ringmodulators and a ((sin/csin modulator =
> A110-4)), to get up- and down shifts with CV control, really great.
flx
Here's a little Sunday ambient noise noodling on my Klangbau Köln Eurorack system. Playing a sample on my Klangbau Radio Music and then droning with the Wavetable DCO, XR-VCO and self-oscillating qVCF through the Tube VCA, Wavefolder and Twin Peak Filter. Pings are generated by the Benjolin, which also acts as a slowly modulated master clock. Mix goes through the Klangbau Spring Reverb (not pictured).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VevP6RDHsH4
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