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MFB Tanzbar 2!
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Panason
I must stop looking ! help



I didn't pull the trigger on the Tanzmaus/ Tanzbar Lite as I didn't like the cramped format and lack of dedicated play button (!)... this looks more like it!

Hopefully they will nail it this time with build quality and firmware, as the sound will surely be excellent.
empirix
Very interested in this myself, Tanzbar 1 is fantastic, apart from some workflow irritations
alternating.bit
Panason wrote:
I didn't like the cramped format and lack of dedicated play button (!)


Is the new play button the somewhat cryptically labeled "manual trig/record" button?
Either way, seeing it next to the Tanzmaus it doesn't look THAT much bigger, though the circular BUTTONS look like an improvement. It bothered me that I saw even a guy from the company struggle to mute things quickly and he still did a lot of ALT-COMBO functions... the LCD screen also is a turn off for me, but if it has both sounds of the bar/lite combined that's a pretty nice beast otherwise. Visually to me it is plain ugly, lol, but that's just personal preference. I'll keep my Tanzmaus for now... which I like to trigger via a Korg Electribe lol.
LED-man
970€ ?
alternating.bit
LED-man wrote:
970€ ?


Are you asking if that was the price? That is indeed what he said, though usually they end up being sold for less than what's quoted at the demos.
The fact that they're combining BOTH the lite/bar into one, plus adding a synth voice, bigger form factor with more controls and and LCD screen, it's somewhat understandable. However 650€ sounds a bit more reasonable to me. hihi
LED-man
Hopefully the final part and build quality fits the RRP of 970€ wink
Panason
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Is the new play button the somewhat cryptically labeled "manual trig/record" button


No, there's a Play button on the right side of the machine.


It's a pretty bad presentation from this guy.
I had to rewind several times to try to hear what the price is going to be... €970??? GTFO!
Cornelisjuh
Had a Tanzbär, not too fond of the whole experience (had clock issues after repairing it, twice). Build quality was a joke considering the price.

It did sound great though, no question about it.
Pille64
Unfortunately I have to agree with the contribution of "Panason" - the young guy was more impressed of his own samples than of his job to present the workflow of the gear. I was sligthly disappointed.
buzzlegs
[quote="Panason"]
Quote:

I had to rewind several times to try to hear what the price is going to be... €970??? GTFO!


what price point do you think you could hit when designing, testing, manufacturing and writing the software for a product with this spec?
alternating.bit
Panason
They're gonna have to rethink that price with the TR8S already available and the Behringer 808 coming up. Old habits die hard but all these smaller companies are going to have to change their tune. Gone are the days when you can just charge whatever you want for analog gear. applause
buzzlegs
Panason wrote:
They're gonna have to rethink that price with the TR8S already available and the Behringer 808 coming up. Old habits die hard but all these smaller companies are going to have to change their tune. Gone are the days when you can just charge whatever you want for analog gear. applause


it's not about what you want to charge, it's what it costs to design and manufacture. If you want drum machine cheap get a korg volca or something, hardly the same thing though is it?
alternating.bit
They way I see it is they're an elite / boutique type brand and they know their audience and who will pay for it. They're not playing it by the numbers like an Arturia Drumbrute. Of course the versatility and features of the Tanz obviously are far more significant but as I said before, the initial announced price means very little as you'll find it on Juno.uk for at least 150-200€ less.
suboptimal
Fuck I'm getting tired of all this armchair capitalism in every new product's thread.
peripatitis
alternating.bit wrote:
They way I see it is they're an elite / boutique type brand and they know their audience and who will pay for it. They're not playing it by the numbers like an Arturia Drumbrute. Of course the versatility and features of the Tanz obviously are far more significant but as I said before, the initial announced price means very little as you'll find it on Juno.uk for at least 150-200€ less.


Elite???
They are definitely not that! smile
Panason
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Elite???
They are definitely not that!

Was going to say just that but each to their own.
alternating.bit
To the average non-musician they are unheard of, as anyone off the street has heard of Gibson, Korg or Roland.
Sure, in a musician's world MFB has some notoriety, but for the most part they're still a pretty small company in the grand scheme of things.
buzzlegs
alternating.bit wrote:
To the average non-musician they are unheard of, as anyone off the street has heard of Gibson, Korg or Roland.


personally i'd be amazed if anyone off the street had heard of Gibson, Korg or Roland tbh!wink
Funky40
buzzlegs wrote:
Panason wrote:
They're gonna have to rethink that price with the TR8S already available and the Behringer 808 coming up. Old habits die hard but all these smaller companies are going to have to change their tune. Gone are the days when you can just charge whatever you want for analog gear. applause


it's not about what you want to charge, it's what it costs to design and manufacture. .........

I agree somehow, just:
I think many people would like to decide more based on sound decisions than if its a coin more or less on the wallet.
Just to do this, should the build quality be sufficient and the UI Design and Software job should be straightforward and logic enough at that pricepoint.
MFB had their time to learn how to do these things. Time will tell more.......



......not impressed by the demo from Fricke Jr. and a bit shocked by his feel for the music.......
franktropez
Panason wrote:
They're gonna have to rethink that price with the TR8S already available and the Behringer 808 coming up. Old habits die hard but all these smaller companies are going to have to change their tune. Gone are the days when you can just charge whatever you want for analog gear. applause


Why can't there be different companies making different things for different audiences? Isn't it good that creative and obsessive people get to make things that others might like?

I really don't get your glee.
This comes from someone that has mostly cheap, new, "mainstream" stuff made by big companies btw. The oldest/most obscure piece of equipment in my setup is a simmons sds-200....
Sir Ruff
franktropez wrote:
Panason wrote:
They're gonna have to rethink that price with the TR8S already available and the Behringer 808 coming up. Old habits die hard but all these smaller companies are going to have to change their tune. Gone are the days when you can just charge whatever you want for analog gear. applause


Why can't there be different companies making different things for different audiences? Isn't it good that creative and obsessive people get to make things that others might like?

I really don't get your glee.
This comes from someone that has mostly cheap, new, "mainstream" stuff made by big companies btw. The oldest/most obscure piece of equipment in my setup is a simmons sds-200....


Right, exactly. The TR8 and B808 are equally unoriginal and undoubtedly cheap to make. MFB has consistently been making original and interesting drum machines for years and that R & D comes at a cost--I would never expect a new flagship machine from them to be less than $1k.
MindMachine
suboptimal wrote:
Fuck I'm getting tired of all this armchair capitalism in every new product's thread.


Armchair socialism as well.

The more gear the merrier.
Everything does not do everything and all is not for all. Rejoice. Champagne
Phaze


Looks like it will be out on October 18. I'm really curious to hear some more demos and decide if the price tag is worth it but so far I'm interested in it.

I've always enjoyed the Tanzbar 1 sound but never really got to buy it.
oscilloscope
Sorry, but no matter what this new version 2 offers (trying to emulate the DSI Tempest ?), I think that version 1 is still classier looking ... and has already everything a drum machine needs to have (imo):
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