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Granular synthesis software/vst in 2018
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brandonlogic
I been out of the soft synth game for a long time. interested in experimenting with granular synthesis on the pc (or mac)
I'm in search of some granular software tools. Ive searched the subfrom and google for info but there not many threads or sites with up to date info on granular software.

wondering if anyone has an suggestions.
looking for something along these lines but in software:

rishin
I've been wondering the same thing for a while now too! I did some shallow research a couple weeks back and compiled a list of Granular Synthesis focused VST's on the market right now, and this is by no means exhaustive:
-The Mangle
-New Sonic Arts Granite
-Crusher-X
-SoundMorph Dust
-UVI Falcon (Granular Synthesis is not the focus here, but it does have a Multi-Granular sampler built-in)
-Madrona Labs Kaivo (again GS is not the focus but the form of synthesis is involved)
-NI Absynth (again GS is not the focus, but its built in Aetherizer effect, which is a granular delay, is what attracted me to GS. It sounds beautiful and is worth checking out)
-GlitchMachines Palindrome
-AudioDamage Quanta (coming soon...)

I think that's all the VST's I know of, but would love to find out more from others. Of course there's always Max/MSP, PureData, Kyma, SuperCollider, etc. if you just want to build your synth w00t
Entrainer
Logic Alchemy has some granular capabilities.
mt3
Old list of freebies:
https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2012/03/30/bpb-freeware-studio-best-f ree-granulator-vstau-plugins/
mt3
Absynth
Reason Malström
Melodyne
Intakt
Kontakt
mt3
KTGranulator
Melda Granulator
Reaktor
mt3
For grains in the frequency domain, look into SpecOps.
Gribs
Halion and its little brother Padshop Pro.

I don’t like Steinberg’s install organization at all but their granular engine is excellent.
Richie Jape
Omnisphere has some very nice granular capabilities Bart Simpson
phase ghost
Granite has worked great for me.
saemola
Sadly it looks like The Mangle is abandonware by now
ignatius
coming soon from audio damage

https://audiodamage.com/blogs/news/coming-soon

bradpickapiper
Granulator is free, simple and really awesome.
https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/granulator/
MalteSteiner
Reason in version 10 became quite interesting, it comes with Grain which has some nice tricks and in the latest update their synth Europa accepts user samples which also are granulated and can be treated further with folding and more.
snakejaw
Density and Pulsaret by Alessandro Petrolati are pretty weird and deep. There even used to be a version of Density that ran in Csound.

standalone - http://www.apesoft.it/download/

Max for Live - https://www.amazingnoises.com/product/density-m4l-pulsaret-m4l/
rishin
snakejaw wrote:
Density and Pulsaret by Alessandro Petrolati are pretty weird and deep. There even used to be a version of Density that ran in Csound.

standalone - http://www.apesoft.it/download/

Max for Live - https://www.amazingnoises.com/product/density-m4l-pulsaret-m4l/


Incompatible with macOS High Sierra is a bummer confused.
CaligulaCuddles
I've been granularly obsessed for a while. The Mangle was my jumping off point, but I always never really loved it like everyone else. For a while I fell in love with the ppooll granular devices, but they weren't ever too practical for my applications. I tried a handful of different plugins, but I generally find myself simply returning to the free M4L Granulator II; it has basically everything I need, and a little tweaking and familiarity goes a long ways with it. The more granulators you work with, the more you start to realize the core functionality is about the same, and 90% of the difference is paying for a prettier UI.

Palindrome is the only thing that's really on my to-do list for new stuff to check out. The GR-1 looks tasty, but not particularly unique (or, truth be told, necessary).

If anything, it seems like the trickiest thing to find is a granular delay that works without being either too obvious or generic. I made a pretty simple one in M4L where I can adjust the size and spacing (and the randomization thereof) and tune the number re-pitched harmonics and give them a chance ratio.

As much as I wish there were more unique granulators out there, I think the truth of the matter is that once you find one that works for you, it's about what you put into it and how you process the audio more than anything else.


EDIT: I will add, however, that when it comes to granular gimmickry, the Amazing Noises Granular Lab M4L patches can be oodles of fun.
Tonefloat01
Uh.... Kyma from Symbolic Sound has some good granular synthesis modules.
Guinness ftw! nanners thumbs up
phase ghost
ignatius wrote:
coming soon from audio damage

https://audiodamage.com/blogs/news/coming-soon


This looks pretty nice. I like Granite, but this strikes me as a more evolved version of that.
scanningthemirror
I love the mangle!
dpcoffin
Quote:
-Madrona Labs Kaivo (again GS is not the focus but the form of synthesis is involved)


One way to look at Kaivo is that it's a great all-the-basics multi-sample granular synth with extremely interesting and unusual modulation engines, plus powerful resonant delay and reverb FX that make it optionally ALSO a great PM synth. The GS side alone can do most everything in the video.

Reaktor OTOH can be seen as pretty much any granular synth you could imagine, with many possibilities already well realized, between the Factory and legacy ensembles, and the deep well of the User Library.
rishin
dpcoffin wrote:
Quote:
-Madrona Labs Kaivo (again GS is not the focus but the form of synthesis is involved)


One way to look at Kaivo is that it's a great all-the-basics multi-sample granular synth with extremely interesting and unusual modulation engines, plus powerful resonant delay and reverb FX that make it optionally ALSO a great PM synth. The GS side alone can do most everything in the video.

Reaktor OTOH can be seen as pretty much any granular synth you could imagine, with many possibilities already well realized, between the Factory and legacy ensembles, and the deep well of the User Library.


Can Kaivo actually do multi-samples? I thought it was only single. And yeah I love the 2D LFO on it.
dpcoffin
rishin wrote:


Can Kaivo actually do multi-samples? I thought it was only single. And yeah I love the 2D LFO on it.


You can load multi-track wavs (up to 5 I think) up to 8 seconds long and scroll or step around inside the grid that shows them with the mouse or using all the mod sources:

rishin
Ah wow I hadn't thought to load any .wav file with >2 tracks, thanks for the tip! Out of curiosity, and off-topic from the thread sorry, have you had any issues with Kaivo's CPU usage?
dpcoffin
rishin wrote:
Out of curiosity, and off-topic from the thread sorry, have you had any issues with Kaivo's CPU usage?


Well, I can see it's sometimes hitting the CPU meter in Logic pretty hard, but I've never hit a limit, gotten crackles, etc. I tend to prefer it with few voices and not much overlap, and rarely pile it up with lots of other devices on other tracks. It's working fine with right now on one track with three FX plugins plus Numerology running into it as a MIDIFX.

My iMac's over 3 years old, fwiw…

and btw, 4 seems to be the track limit not 5.
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