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R.U.Nuts
Does anybody have a cheap and cheerful reccomendation for a stereo in- and output overdrive that works good with synths? There's the new EHX Operation Overlord but there are not that much demos and stuff about it using it with synths especially with a modular hooked up straight to it. Besides that I couldn't find much...
GuyaGuy
Elektron Analog Heat is where it's at if you have the cash. I have the mono Analog Drive and have considered getting a second used one--still cheaper than Heat and I could use MIDI to sync settings.
R.U.Nuts
GuyaGuy wrote:
Elektron Analog Heat is where it's at if you have the cash.


Uhm, well. No. Way too expensive and way more feature packed than I need. I'm already considering DIYing a stereo distortion by using two distortion circuits and wiring them to stereo pots...
kragg
The good thing with DIY is that you can sets the input capacitors to match the frequency range of a synth (instead of a guitar), and use better quality components where it matters.
I should be building a stereo Turbo Rat to use on synths and drum machines in a couple months smile
zolar_czakl
Aira Torcido might fit the bill. It has a Tube knob and can be virtually configured with submodules like Amp and Tube Clip.
kragg
If you're going the DIY route, i'd be curious to know your impressios about the Rude Tube (stereo tube distorsion) :
https://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=56356.0
https://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=53011.0
whyfarer
kragg wrote:
If you're going the DIY route, i'd be curious to know your impressios about the Rude Tube (stereo tube distorsion)


I was looking into this not too long ago and I ended up sourcing a pair of 1980s MXR distortion+s in rough shape for quite cheap. This is now my solution though it's more for stereo distortion than overdrive.

BUT, in my research I came across the rude tube after I learned about culture vulture and quickly realized how out of reach the CV was. I would like to build a rude tube at some point and for the moment would also be interested to hear about any experience anyone has with them.
PublicFig
While it's not technically an overdrive, The Strymon Deco has r/l stereo in and TRS stereo out. The tape saturation side can be used for dirt/compression and can have some overdrive tones in it. There's a benefit with it if you're looking for a tape style delay as well, but otherwise, I'd just go down the DIY route as well.
kragg
whyfarer wrote:
I ended up sourcing a pair of 1980s MXR distortion+s in rough shape for quite cheap. This is now my solution though it's more for stereo distortion than overdrive.

The MXR Dist+ really shines when you add the Wampler mods, it's really well worth it, and opens a whole new dimension to this pedal's sonic potential.
whyfarer
kragg wrote:
whyfarer wrote:
I ended up sourcing a pair of 1980s MXR distortion+s in rough shape for quite cheap. This is now my solution though it's more for stereo distortion than overdrive.

The MXR Dist+ really shines when you add the Wampler mods, it's really well worth it, and opens a whole new dimension to this pedal's sonic potential.


Thanks, will do!

Also, I'll second the deco as generally awesome though I haven't tried to use it for overdrive
Chevron87
The EHX Operation Overlord looks just the ticket, or an alternative would be to get 2 Boss DS-1s, you can get Keeley modded ones for cheap and they are awesome distortion pedals!
hippo1
...Don't know how much 'control' you need over the disto; but have you seen the EHX Platform? I use it for its stereo compression out-of-the-box, for my synth takes; I personally like its take on distortion, especially on drum machines/basslines. Add a little, or go over-the-top. Single knob; but, as stated, I just like it. [I bought it as a stereo comp pedal, for OOB stuff; the distortion knob was just an added 'goody'. Two birds, one stone.]
GGW
zolar_czakl wrote:
Aira Torcido might fit the bill. It has a Tube knob and can be virtually configured with submodules like Amp and Tube Clip.


Is the Torcido actual analog distortion or is it a digital emulation? Seems like it might be a good budget way to get the Analog Heat functionality much cheaper.
Richard Morgan
Hi! I use Boss BD-2 Blues. For output i have double cable + my new creative sound blaster audio card with 2 line inputs. On second output i use delay in 12ms. This is the best way for stereo channel mapping i had. Read more about my effect pedal at: https://musiety.com/the-best-tube-screamer-clone/
Rex Coil 7
R.U.Nuts wrote:
GuyaGuy wrote:
Elektron Analog Heat is where it's at if you have the cash.


Uhm, well. No. Way too expensive and way more feature packed than I need. I'm already considering DIYing a stereo distortion by using two distortion circuits and wiring them to stereo pots...
... this would require a buffer circuit in front of the dual distortion circuits. Putting two disotrtion circuits in parallel will half the input impedance. So if they both have (let's say) 1MegOhm input impedance, when two are placed in parallel the guitar pickups then "see" twice the load of a single distortion circuit ... so that would would out to about 500kohm. That would really load down the guitar's pickups and create the dreaded "wet carpet thrown over the speaker cabinet" dull sound.

Placing a buffer circuit in front of the parallel distortion circuits will "protect" the guitar's pickups from the crappy input impedance level, since the pickups will not be subjected to the halved impedance, but instead only be faced with the input impedance of the buffer.

All that would be required is something as simple as a well designed overdrive, or even just a bypassed Boss pedal. Boss pedals are not hard bypassed (aka "true bypass") and use active buffers in the bypass circuitry, so even when a Boss pedal is bypassed the guitar's pickups are being treated to a really nice high impedance, usually about 1MegOhm (just like a high quality tube amplifier). So buy a $30.00 Boss tuner or overdrive on eBay, then place the parallel dual distortion thing after the the Boss thing. Then just run the Boss thing in bypass ... the guitar (or synth or whatever) will never "see" the low impedance parallel distortion circuit, it will only "see" the input impedance of the buffer ... everything after the buffer is "invisible" to the instrument.

My favorite of all time Boss utility pedal is the LS-2 (Line Switcher). It does the high impedance bypass thing, should you ever need it, but it also offers A LOT of parallel/series routing options and dual circuit loops, each having a little over 20db of gain should it be needed.

cool
Rex Coil 7
The Line 6 M5 is an excellent distortion unit with L/R ina and L/R outs. Plus full 5 pin DIN MIDI I/O. They run about $125.00 or so. I have the big daddy of that unit, the M13 which is essentially four M5s. I have two M13s, my wife has one, and my brother has one. We loves us some M13s.
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