New Shakmat - Gemini's Path

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New Shakmat - Gemini's Path

Post by Bishop Dust » Thu May 17, 2018 8:10 am

At the Superbooth, we presented along to the Clock O Pawn a brand new module, please meet the Gemini's Path. :party:


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A 6hp and skiff friendly stereo processor with a high end analog signal path, an audio to trigger converter and a smart modulation source. Combined together the module allows to easily control the dynamic of two signals (decaying, gating, side chain compression, auto accentuations on drums,...) or to mess with the stereo (auto panning, independent settings per channel, ...) 

Features 

• Dual That Corp VCA for low noise and low distorsion signal processing

• Analog audio to trigger converter with dedicated threshold potentiometer and trigger detection LED

• Modulation source controlled by the Time and Depth amount potentiometers and CV inputs
• External side chain input

• Pump mode reducing the signal amplitude when a trigger is detected

• Expander mode increasing the signal amplitude when a trigger is detected

• Sine Pan mode applying a Sine LFO on the signal's pan

• Random Pan mode applying a random modulation on the signal's pan

• Alternate behaviour for each mode (different response curves - panning principles)

• 4 different control configurations (channel 1, channel 2, dual or shared)

• User replaceable firmware chip

• High quality metal potentiometers with double rubber injected knobs

• Skiff friendly (25mm deep)

• 6 HP Wide


The module should be available late summer ! [/img]

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Post by Queequeg » Thu May 17, 2018 8:29 am

Looks exciting. I would love to hear some demos.

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Post by R.U.Nuts » Thu May 17, 2018 8:32 am

Ok, well: So this is basically a dual VCA with decay envelopes, a sine LFO and prepatched routings for stereo panning applications in 6HP? If so: How much for the DIY kit? :bananaguitar:

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Post by xenosapien » Thu May 17, 2018 8:43 am

Oh yes.

+1 for a DIY Kit.
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Post by Bishop Dust » Thu May 17, 2018 9:34 am

R.U.Nuts wrote:Ok, well: So this is basically a dual VCA with decay envelopes, a sine LFO and prepatched routings for stereo panning applications in 6HP? If so: How much for the DIY kit? :bananaguitar:
Basicaly yes - but :mrgreen: think about the panning curve you need to make a correct panning effect - the fact to reproduce a sidechain compressor (take an envelop, invert it, add an offset, use a separate VCA) and so on - so the fact that this module is integrating all those things under one panel make your studio lif eeasier for those applications :)

We don't have the pricing yet - but yes it will be available as a kit :sb:

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Fri May 18, 2018 12:19 am

This is definitely one of my favorite things from SB18! I had so much fun messing around with a stereo mix through this. It's just perfect for live performances IMHO.
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Post by Jumbuktu » Fri May 18, 2018 12:30 am

Another neat, capable module from Shakmat. Will the DIY be SMD or through-hole?

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Post by Bishop Dust » Fri May 18, 2018 9:31 am

Diy with an already soldered smd board !

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Post by Seaweed Sound » Fri May 18, 2018 3:52 pm

This looks cool.. nice compact utility for ducking.

Couple of questions:
1) Is the attack fixed or does Time control both attack and decay? If fixed, what is the attack time?
2) Does the gain reduction change with the strength of the input signal or is it consistent/fixed according to the depth control? I forget the proper term.. I think downward expander vs ducking
3) Will the Ext Side Chain take a raw trigger/gate or only audio?

Thanks for any additional info

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Post by Bishop Dust » Wed May 23, 2018 7:52 pm

mangobob wrote:This looks cool.. nice compact utility for ducking.

Couple of questions:
1) Is the attack fixed or does Time control both attack and decay? If fixed, what is the attack time?
2) Does the gain reduction change with the strength of the input signal or is it consistent/fixed according to the depth control? I forget the proper term.. I think downward expander vs ducking
3) Will the Ext Side Chain take a raw trigger/gate or only audio?

Thanks for any additional info
Attack is null - our first design was bigger (10hp) with a attack knob. We finally went to the 6hp version because :

- attack knob had no real sense for the random / lfo modes or should have been labelled weirdly (attack / symetry)

- 10hp with attack vs 6hp without was a pretty obvious match result (add the difference of costs)

- we went to the conclusion that the main applications are emulating side chain compression (wich is very often release only in electronic music) - decaying sources (by the way send a noise in first input and sine in the second one, sum the outputs and choose decay / dual mode - it is a perfect tool to do the dynamic job for percussions)

The module converts audio into triggers meaning it does not react to audio level.

keep in mind this is not a proper compressor or expander. But it is a very handy module to emulate those devices for very common electronic music applications without dealing with a complex compressor / expander interface - and cherry on the cake it offers more :party:

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Post by Seaweed Sound » Wed May 23, 2018 10:35 pm

Cool thanks for the info.. I'm glad the attack is fast

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Post by Bishop Dust » Thu May 24, 2018 6:03 am

mangobob wrote:Cool thanks for the info.. I'm glad the attack is fast
the attack time is a bit less then 1 ms for now - we are working to reduce it as much as we can - but as the modulation generator is digital, the attack cannot be faster then the latency !

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Post by teamhobson » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:04 pm

Any updates on this Bishop Dust?

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Post by tuj » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:23 pm

OMG THAT Corp. Seriously the best chips.

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Post by Bishop Dust » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:05 am

The module is currently in production (we had a lot of beta testing reviews :) so a lot of choices and prototyping :) )

We added a few stuff more informations soon !

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Post by Phitar » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:39 am

R.U.Nuts wrote:Ok, well: So this is basically a dual VCA with decay envelopes, a sine LFO and prepatched routings for stereo panning applications in 6HP? If so: How much for the DIY kit? :bananaguitar:
But basically isn't that quite a lot in 6 hp? :confused:
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Post by Daisuk » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:59 am

Ooooh, interested in the DIY kit of this. :guinness:

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Post by R.U.Nuts » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:13 pm

Phitar wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:Ok, well: So this is basically a dual VCA with decay envelopes, a sine LFO and prepatched routings for stereo panning applications in 6HP? If so: How much for the DIY kit? :bananaguitar:
But basically isn't that quite a lot in 6 hp? :confused:
Yes it is. That's why there's the :bananaguitar: And my question about the price is because I want one. I'm not a native English speaker so I guess I messed something up: I didn't bash the features/size ratio. I find it rather impressive. Moreso since the interface doesn't look all too cramped and only uses one of those horrible minishaft pots which I try to avoid whenever I can.

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Post by Bishop Dust » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:10 pm

That's indeed a lot in 6 hp ;) we really focused on intuitivity and simplicity - you can think about tricky settings but the main modes are very easy to use. Interface is also easy to understand mainly if you already had a peaks in your hands.

This module will be available as a DIY kit ! Pricing in a few days ;)

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Post by Daisuk » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Bishop Dust wrote:That's indeed a lot in 6 hp ;) we really focused on intuitivity and simplicity - you can think about tricky settings but the main modes are very easy to use. Interface is also easy to understand mainly if you already had a peaks in your hands.

This module will be available as a DIY kit ! Pricing in a few days ;)
Nice! A lot in 6hp indeed! I take it thonk will stock them? :)

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Post by Illiac » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:50 pm

Super stoked for this one!

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Post by evs » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:36 am

Does it remember it state after a power cyle?

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:49 am

I'm so anxious to get my hands on the final unit!
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Post by 2disbetter » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:29 am

R.U.Nuts wrote:
Phitar wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:Ok, well: So this is basically a dual VCA with decay envelopes, a sine LFO and prepatched routings for stereo panning applications in 6HP? If so: How much for the DIY kit? :bananaguitar:
But basically isn't that quite a lot in 6 hp? :confused:
Yes it is. That's why there's the :bananaguitar: And my question about the price is because I want one. I'm not a native English speaker so I guess I messed something up.
Nah your English was fine. At the beginning it did have a slight negative tone, but it became apparent this wasn't intended when you asked about a DIY kit. And just incase there was any doubt, as you said, the dancing guitar banana insured the reader knew this was a positive question about the model.

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Post by Bishop Dust » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:41 am

Daisuk wrote:
Bishop Dust wrote:That's indeed a lot in 6 hp ;) we really focused on intuitivity and simplicity - you can think about tricky settings but the main modes are very easy to use. Interface is also easy to understand mainly if you already had a peaks in your hands.

This module will be available as a DIY kit ! Pricing in a few days ;)
Nice! A lot in 6hp indeed! I take it thonk will stock them? :)
I m pretty sure :)

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