DIY Clap'a'Trap ** Assembly Results & Trigger Update ***

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Post by rosch » Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:48 pm

Well the knobs are a perfect match for the jacks and the buttons to be honest, so if it's possible to get only the bare board i'll find a way to mount the thing perpendicular to a ghetto panel
is that 0603?

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Post by Boogie » Sat Sep 29, 2018 3:41 am

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rosch
so if it's possible to get only the bare board
Why only the board ? You will need different potmeters, but those aren't enclosed in the kit anyhow, only the knobs, neither are the jacks.
Only PCB, NE566 and the knobs.

toneburst
Any updates on this project?
Good news, the project is still active.
I've been a bit less active on the Forum,
but as soon we reach 25 pcs, I'll start the redesign.

Clap'a'trap interested list.

I'll start the redesign of the Clap'a'Trap as soon as the total of Kit_1 + Kit_2 reaches 25.

Kit 1 cost €41.20 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Bare PCB
1 x NE566
8 x knobs (2 Red, 4 Yellow, 2 white) stripe

Kit 2 cost €80.50 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Kit 1
1 x Black anodized FP with white overlay from Schaeffer


1 tommy.york 1 x Kit_2
2 Swyndger 1 x Kit_2
3 realitycontrol 1 x Kit_2
4 Dunk_91 1 x Kit_2
5 tron23 1 x Kit_2
6 toneburst 1 x Kit_2
7 makhho 1 x Kit_2
8 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
9 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
10 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
11 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
12 rbv2 1 x Kit_2
13 Faustgeist 1 x Kit_2
14 stringsthings 1 x Kit_2
15 aragorn23 1 x Kit_2
16 yan6. 1 x Kit_2
17 mOBiTh. 1 x Kit_1
18 maltemark 1 x Kit_2
19 magneticstripper 1 x Kit_2
20 Branko 1 x Kit_2
21 NS4W 1 x Kit_2

Who is going to be nr. 22 ? :bananaguitar:
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“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by rosch » Sat Sep 29, 2018 11:54 am

Boogie wrote: Why only the board ?
i have other switches, jacks and knobs. i only need a board. so if that's possible i would consider it. is it 0603?

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Post by Boogie » Sat Sep 29, 2018 1:03 pm

rosch
is it 0603
yes.
i only need a board. so if that's possible
It's not foreseen for now, but one never knows.
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by NS4W » Tue Oct 02, 2018 6:08 am

So I guess "bump" then :hmm:

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Post by kamielsd » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:59 am

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Post by Boogie » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:45 am

hello all,

22 or 25,
I'll start the update of the design.
Pls allow a couple weeks for it to finish.

So these boards will be produced.


1 tommy.york 1 x Kit_2
2 Swyndger 1 x Kit_2
3 realitycontrol 1 x Kit_2
4 Dunk_91 1 x Kit_2
5 tron23 1 x Kit_2
6 toneburst 1 x Kit_2
7 makhho 1 x Kit_2
8 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
9 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
10 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
11 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
12 rbv2 1 x Kit_2
13 Faustgeist 1 x Kit_2
14 stringsthings 1 x Kit_2
15 aragorn23 1 x Kit_2
16 yan6. 1 x Kit_2
17 mOBiTh. 1 x Kit_1
18 maltemark 1 x Kit_2
19 magneticstripper 1 x Kit_2
20 Branko 1 x Kit_2
21 NS4W 1 x Kit_2
22 kamielsd 1x Kit_2

for those who are interested,
price setting below

Kit 1 cost €41.20 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Bare PCB
1 x NE566
8 x knobs (2 Red, 4 Yellow, 2 white) stripe

Kit 2 cost €80.50 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Kit 1
1 x Black anodized FP with white overlay from Schaeffer
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by Boogie » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:15 am

Hello all,

Here's a new soundfile of the Clap'a'Trap with external Control Voltage on the Hiss Pitch.
The unit is triggered by an external trigger pulse which is also used to start an external ADSR. The ADSR is then used to controll the Hiss Pitch.
Controll Voltage dynamic range is 0-5V, possible to go up to 7V for very high pitches.

Who will be nr. 23 ?

http://soundcloud.com/boo-gie-879149310/vchisspitch

Interest List

1 tommy.york 1 x Kit_2
2 Swyndger 1 x Kit_2
3 realitycontrol 1 x Kit_2
4 Dunk_91 1 x Kit_2
5 tron23 1 x Kit_2
6 toneburst 1 x Kit_2
7 makhho 1 x Kit_2
8 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
9 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
10 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
11 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
12 rbv2 1 x Kit_2
13 Faustgeist 1 x Kit_2
14 stringsthings 1 x Kit_2
15 aragorn23 1 x Kit_2
16 yan6. 1 x Kit_2
17 mOBiTh. 1 x Kit_1
18 maltemark 1 x Kit_2
19 magneticstripper 1 x Kit_2
20 Branko 1 x Kit_2
21 NS4W 1 x Kit_2
22 kamielsd 1x Kit_2

for those who are interested,
price setting below

Kit 1 cost €41.20 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Bare PCB
1 x NE566
8 x knobs (2 Red, 4 Yellow, 2 white) stripe

Kit 2 cost €80.50 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Kit 1
1 x Black anodized FP with white overlay from Schaeffer
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by kamielsd » Sat Oct 06, 2018 5:30 pm

kit1 that would be, i'm still budgetary restricting myself from buying metal panels at least till I run out of trespa

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Post by Boogie » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:59 pm

Hey kamielsd

I've updated the list.

Who will be nr 23 ?


Interest List

1 tommy.york 1 x Kit_2
2 Swyndger 1 x Kit_2
3 realitycontrol 1 x Kit_2
4 Dunk_91 1 x Kit_2
5 tron23 1 x Kit_2
6 toneburst 1 x Kit_2
7 makhho 1 x Kit_2
8 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
9 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
10 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
11 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
12 rbv2 1 x Kit_2
13 Faustgeist 1 x Kit_2
14 stringsthings 1 x Kit_2
15 aragorn23 1 x Kit_2
16 yan6. 1 x Kit_2
17 mOBiTh. 1 x Kit_1
18 maltemark 1 x Kit_2
19 magneticstripper 1 x Kit_2
20 Branko 1 x Kit_2
21 NS4W 1 x Kit_2
22 kamielsd 1x Kit_1

for those who are interested,
price setting below

Kit 1 cost €41.20 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Bare PCB
1 x NE566
8 x knobs (2 Red, 4 Yellow, 2 white) stripe

Kit 2 cost €80.50 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Kit 1
1 x Black anodized FP with white overlay from Schaeffer
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by Dan Michaels » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:00 am

:yay:

Nr 23, Kit 2 please

Thx
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Post by toneburst » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:21 am

Voltage control of hiss pitch is a great feature!

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Post by maltemark » Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:21 pm

ironically, hisspitch is Swedish for "elevator pitch"

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Post by mOBiTh » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:19 pm

If it's not too late I'd like to switch to kit two please!

What's the current status of this project?

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Post by Boogie » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:57 am

maltemark wrote:ironically, hisspitch is Swedish for "elevator pitch"
Would that reaction imply that you are active in aviation ? 8-)
mOBiTh wrote:If it's not too late I'd like to switch to kit two please!
I'll update the list. Pls see below.
What's the current status of this project?
I have to update the Hiss decay to Voltage controlled and then update the PCB.
But it's coming.

Interest List

1 tommy.york 1 x Kit_2
2 Swyndger 1 x Kit_2
3 realitycontrol 1 x Kit_2
4 Dunk_91 1 x Kit_2
5 tron23 1 x Kit_2
6 toneburst 1 x Kit_2
7 makhho 1 x Kit_2
8 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
9 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
10 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
11 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
12 rbv2 1 x Kit_2
13 Faustgeist 1 x Kit_2
14 stringsthings 1 x Kit_2
15 aragorn23 1 x Kit_2
16 yan6. 1 x Kit_2
17 mOBiTh. 1 x Kit_2 Updated
18 maltemark 1 x Kit_2
19 magneticstripper 1 x Kit_2
20 Branko 1 x Kit_2
21 NS4W 1 x Kit_2
22 kamielsd 1x Kit_1
23 Dan Michaels 1 x Kit_2

for those who are interested,
price setting below

Kit 1 cost €41.20 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Bare PCB
1 x NE566
8 x knobs (2 Red, 4 Yellow, 2 white) stripe

Kit 2 cost €80.50 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Kit 1
1 x Black anodized FP with white overlay from Schaeffer
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by mOBiTh » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:37 am

Boogie wrote:
What's the current status of this project?
I have to update the Hiss decay to Voltage controlled and then update the PCB.
But it's coming.

Splendid 8-)

BTW: why is it called Clap 'a' Trap instead of just Clap Trap?

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Post by Boogie » Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:46 am

@rosch
I confirmed it is 0603, but forgot to mention that apart from 1 SOIC16 all opamps are TSSOP14 or TSSOP8. Those have a pitch of 0.65mm.
mOBiTh wrote:What's the current status of this project?
Well,
I've been working on it for a bit this afternoon.
Both Hiss Pitch and Decay are now Voltage Controllable 0-5V.

Using external voltage for the decay allows to variate the decay time from some 160 ms to more then 20 seconds. The on-board knob still varies with respect to the original timings.

Next step is to update the schematics and redesign the PCB. (it's more then adding a resistor or so)

So while waiting for the PCB to be redesigned and tested,
Here's already a sample.

https://soundcloud.com/boo-gie-87914931 ... rolledhiss
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by Boogie » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:10 pm

mOBiTh
BTW: why is it called Clap 'a' Trap instead of just Clap Trap?
There are both a digital and analog version.
The 'a' stands for Analog.
It also differentiates the Clap'a'Trap from the original Clap Trap, as it is a clone, but with some slight differences.
The Clap'a'Trap is a hint to the Clap trap, but is not an exact copy. :hihi:
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by mOBiTh » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:22 am

Fair enough, sounding good! 8-)

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Post by pirx » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:22 am

Cool project. 1 x Kit_1 for me, please. Thank you!

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Post by Boogie » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:23 am

@pirx, I've added you to the list

And nr25 is going to be ? :spin:

Both Hiss Pitch and Decay are now Voltage Controllable 0-5V.

Using external voltage for the decay allows to variate the decay time from some 160 ms to more then 20 seconds. The on-board knob still varies with respect to the original timings.
Next step is to update the schematics and redesign the PCB. (it's more then adding a resistor or so)
Schematics and PCB are updated.
I will run a final check and order a new proto batch this weekend.


So while waiting for the new proto PCB to arrive,
I've added the soundfile again.

https://soundcloud.com/boo-gie-87914931 ... rolledhiss

Interest List

1 tommy.york 1 x Kit_2
2 Swyndger 1 x Kit_2
3 realitycontrol 1 x Kit_2
4 Dunk_91 1 x Kit_2
5 tron23 1 x Kit_2
6 toneburst 1 x Kit_2
7 makhho 1 x Kit_2
8 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
9 keninverse 1 x Kit_2
10 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
11 supervalued 1 x Kit_2
12 rbv2 1 x Kit_2
13 Faustgeist 1 x Kit_2
14 stringsthings 1 x Kit_2
15 aragorn23 1 x Kit_2
16 yan6. 1 x Kit_2
17 mOBiTh. 1 x Kit_2
18 maltemark 1 x Kit_2
19 magneticstripper 1 x Kit_2
20 Branko 1 x Kit_2
21 NS4W 1 x Kit_2
22 kamielsd 1x Kit_1
23 Dan Michaels 1 x Kit_2
24 pirx 1x Kit_1

for those who are interested,
price setting below

Kit 1 cost €41.20 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Bare PCB
1 x NE566
8 x knobs (2 Red, 4 Yellow, 2 white) stripe

Kit 2 cost €80.50 excl vat and excl shipping
1 x Kit 1
1 x Black anodized FP with white overlay from Schaeffer
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Post by toneburst » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:09 am

Looking and sounding great!
Keep up the great work, @Boogie!

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Post by Boogie » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:06 am

Hello all,

Schematics are updated.
PCB is redesigned with the Voltage Controll update.
BOM and Silkscreen are extracted.

New batch of proto PCBs will be ordered later today or tomorrow.

For those who already want to create an assembly document (coloring the the Reference Designators according to the value of the component),
I've already put the silkscreen and BOM in attachment.
Where this screen dump may not be so clear, the PDF in attachment is very well readable.

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“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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Accepting orders till november 5th

Post by Boogie » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:56 pm

Dear MuffWiggler colleagues,

I'm accepting orders for the Clap'a'Trap Kits.

In attachment is the order form I need as a confirmation for your order.

Don't pay anything yet, you'll get a request for payment and a commercial invoice when all parts are in.

The order book will be closed on november 5th, that's two weeks after today. (should be long enough)
I will also then order the necessary Frontpanels.

Even if the total of orders is below 10, I will still process and supply.

B rgds,
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Post by Boogie » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:42 am

Hello all,

just a kind reminder.

Orders will only be accepted till november 5th.
-------------------------------------------------------
“Digital generated ‘analog’, is missing its analog soul and therefore isn’t analog any more.”
Jupiter 8 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=209322
Minipops 7 clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=199360
ClapTrap clone: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=202248
www.nabla-instruments.com

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