Waldorf Kyra FPGA Synth: 128 voices, 10 Osc/voice!

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Waldorf Kyra FPGA Synth: 128 voices, 10 Osc/voice!

Post by RickKleffel » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:16 pm

FPGA Madness

Impressive Specs...

https://musewire.com/waldorf-teases-new ... -valkyrie/

NAMM 2019 priced at €1899

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Ancestor, apparently

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Post by SunSpots » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:47 pm

Yes... After this years load of modules, I would love to own something this powerful IF they do it right. It's kinda like a Virus FINAL FORM super hero.

SO it says teaser... is that a video? I can't find a video?

With something like this you can have MANY HUGE sounds all being played at the same time, sequenced by your favorite sequencer... like a whole band in a box if you wanted to run it that way.

I guess directly competing with the computer, so their UI better be damn fun.
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Post by mha » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:05 pm

SonicState did a 30 minute video on it at Musik Messe this year:

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Re: Waldorf Kyra FPGA Synth: 128 voices, 10 Osc/voice!

Post by Funky40 » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:18 pm

screw it, watched the video.....


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Post by Ranxerox » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:32 pm

I'm confused... This seems to be about two different synths - the Exodus Valkyrie and Waldorf Kyra... are these the same synth? :hmm:

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Post by Dave Peck » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:40 pm

Ranxerox wrote:I'm confused... This seems to be about two different synths - the Exodus Valkyrie and Waldorf Kyra... are these the same synth? :hmm:
From the article: " The new platform is being jointly developed with Manuel Caballero of Exodus Digital, who demonstrated his “Valkyrie” synth concept at Musicmesse. Manuel also recently announced that “The Exodus Team would like to announce that Valkyrie is now a Waldorf Music product and will be released as the Waldorf Kyra.” "

Which sounds more promising to me than a tiny unknown start-up trying to introduce a complex expensive specialty synth all on their own as their first big product.

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Post by Panason » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:45 pm

Few companies can match their track record of innovation and delivery spanning several decades.
yep, Waldorf are pretty damn good. This is excellent news. I can see this replacing several synths in many studios, maybe even mine!

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Post by onthelees » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:35 am

This has promise if Waldorf stays out of the way and let this guy do his thing. In the Sonic State video he says it's basically done, so hopefully we will get pretty much what's in the video.

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Post by nuromantix » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:59 am

Looks amazing, did anyone notice how many outputs there are on the back?

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Post by Sir Ruff » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:41 am

aside from the massive oscillator count and the technology used (which is very cool), this didn't seem to be a particularly novel VA. Does it even have wavetable modulation? I guess Waldorf could add that. Not clear what else makes this stand out from a sonic perspective though.

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Post by Dave Peck » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:05 pm

Sir Ruff wrote:aside from the massive oscillator count and the technology used (which is very cool), this didn't seem to be a particularly novel VA. Does it even have wavetable modulation? I guess Waldorf could add that. Not clear what else makes this stand out from a sonic perspective though.
I was thinking the same. The balance of polyphony versus voice architecture complexity and versatility doesn't seem to be making the best use of the available resources. It would be far more useful with less polyphony/fewer oscs and far more voice complexity/versatility.

The big challenge with implementing that on a hardware synth is how to create a set of meaningful front panel controls if the voice architecture changes completely from one patch to the next.... So far, I haven't seen anything tackle this issue better than a Nord Modular / G2. :hail: but that thing was released twenty years ago - surely somebody should be able to improve on that by now....?

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Post by seychmar » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:04 am

Looks like the Kyra is available.

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Post by seychmar » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:07 am

The webpage:

https://www.waldorfmusic.com/en/kyra

Doesn’t seem to offer much more than a Virus TI, apart from the very high polyphony.

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Post by tehyar » Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:09 am

Geesh, that was sudden.

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Post by RickKleffel » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:13 pm

This looks pretty nice. Yet another fine addition to the Digital Renaissance we seem to be experiencing. Kudos to Waldorf for starting out with a very nicely designed desktop, and including digital delivery of sounds from the get-go. Hopefully, by the time they shake out all the first-release details, I'll have the scratch to pick this up. The Virus TI polar has for nearly [x] years been irreplaceable in my kit. The sounds plus interface seem unbeatable. But it's a keyboard, and say, this plus the ASM deal offers lots more.

It's a hell of a good time to be a synthesist. From Moog One to the Quantum to this deal, to Maander, etc, there is a feast of fantastic choices to fit all tastes and even budgets.

Now all we need to see is a similar level of innovation in the world of samplers, and whatever the heck Social Entropy is cooking asa follow-up to the Engine. 1010 Music may step up vis a vis the former, but Blackbox is lacking some stuff for my particular and admittedly peculiar inclinations.

Nonetheless, this looks to be both inspiring and practically useful. Obviously we will want to see and hear more, and I'm certain that will come to pass.

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Post by rowsbywoof » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:43 pm

Weird. I would expect this to be hyped up before release, not silently dropped into stores. Maybe it's been at the last few shows, but wasn't really covered much? Either way, cool this is seeing the light of day. With so little we've heard on it I figured it was stuck in Development Hell. If someone here gets one, I'd love to hear how you get on with it.

Edit: Just checked Sweetwater and hooo-boy, $2,300 is more than I thought this was going to release at. Not saying it isn't going to be worth it, but that puts it in some very competitive waters.
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Post by sizone » Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:44 pm

Finally time to sell the MicrowaveXT and the JX3p.

I have been looking forward to being able to use one synth to make music.

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Post by tehyar » Mon Oct 07, 2019 6:19 pm

Manual is up on the website. Some really interesting stuff going on in there. Dual mode, dual filter mode, and layering, while each osc is actually a group, really makes for some wide possibilities.

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Post by Angroc » Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:59 pm

Awesome specs, but last time I heard a demo, I really didn't feel that convinced. Any new demos up? The Waldorf site has like everything but sound demos. :despair: Also, would love to see a rackmounting kit!
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Post by Panason » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:40 pm

I think this might flop at that price.

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Post by tehyar » Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:55 pm

Yea the demo has some pretty bland sounds considering the complexity of this thing. I'm looking forward to seeing what else it can do when I get it tomorrow. :mrgreen:

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Post by Angroc » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:18 pm

Nice! Please post some demos pretty please!

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Post by sizone » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:51 pm

tehyar wrote:Yea the demo has some pretty bland sounds considering the complexity of this thing. I'm looking forward to seeing what else it can do when I get it tomorrow. :mrgreen:
If it's not too much trouble, an exploration of how wavetabley the wavetable system is would be much appreciated. It has the Waldorf name on it and it's digital as all hell. If it can't pump out some garbled robot talk, I'm going to be a little heartbroken.

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Post by peripatitis » Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:35 am

I might be wrong but I was under the impression it was going to be a lot cheaper, well at least before Waldorf got in the picture...

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Post by nectarios » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:14 am

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This is the newest demo I've heard and its nothing new and/or exciting...will wait for more demos.

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