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Post by placebo92 » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:36 pm

I keep hoping for a new demo..

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Post by electricanada » Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:45 pm

placebo92 wrote:I keep hoping for a new demo..
I'd like to know how the rhythm patterns are created and stored. Right now I am clueless as to how that might work.

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Post by placebo92 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 1:15 pm

electricanada wrote:
placebo92 wrote:I keep hoping for a new demo..
I'd like to know how the rhythm patterns are created and stored. Right now I am clueless as to how that might work.


Ya I'm curious about that too, do you tap the sensors and then it loops the rythyms..?

They give some explanation on their site:
– 4 independent loop recorders with the option for individual clocking. They record triggering events, not audio.
– Clock generator with an array of dividers as a very powerful tool for rhythm synthesis.
, but I can't really imagine how that would be played.

Also they mention a DSP effects processor with cv control over it's entire sample rate, really curious what will be included in there. This could be an awesome effects unit for outside sources as well.. Gah so excited.

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Post by AW198 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:14 am

This thing is ridiculous... those sounds are incredible.

Does the MIDI capability mean that rhythms be locked to a tempo? I got the impression from the trigger looping section of the video (although I didn't watch the whole thing, just had it in the background to listen to) that you have to input the rhythms yourself. If it can be locked to a grid and have rhythm edits done live then wow.

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Post by bobbylandry » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:09 am

Also curious how exactly the loopers work. Seems a cool idea to get some feel from the instrument instead of a sequencer. They do seem to be synced to each other and seems like they sync to midi. I'm assuming it's implemented well since Soma has been making awesome stuff so far.

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Post by damase » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:26 pm

this is hands down the coolest synth demo ive ever heard. those sounds and rhythms are just wild...
there is no mention of separate outputs, and all i see is the 1 mono trs cable in the demo. i hope there is a way to output the individual voices by patching. That could be deal breaker for me, as cool as it sounds, drum synths with only 1 main output are difficult to find a good workflow when it comes to recording and mixing.

also not in love with the croc clips, even after reading the explanation it just seems messy. not a deal breaker though.

very interested to see how it turns out

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Post by electricanada » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:09 pm

damase wrote:this is hands down the coolest synth demo ive ever heard. those sounds and rhythms are just wild...
there is no mention of separate outputs, and all i see is the 1 mono trs cable in the demo. i hope there is a way to output the individual voices by patching. That could be deal breaker for me, as cool as it sounds, drum synths with only 1 main output are difficult to find a good workflow when it comes to recording and mixing.

also not in love with the croc clips, even after reading the explanation it just seems messy. not a deal breaker though.

very interested to see how it turns out
He says in the video that there are separate outputs per voice.

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Post by bmot » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:34 pm

What an amazing demo, I’m seriously considering selling several things just to buy this. I don’t usually spend so much money at one time so it would be new territory for me

Edit: I’m on the waiting list. Just need to save a few :75:
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Post by damase » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:41 pm

electricanada wrote:
damase wrote:this is hands down the coolest synth demo ive ever heard. those sounds and rhythms are just wild...
there is no mention of separate outputs, and all i see is the 1 mono trs cable in the demo. i hope there is a way to output the individual voices by patching. That could be deal breaker for me, as cool as it sounds, drum synths with only 1 main output are difficult to find a good workflow when it comes to recording and mixing.

also not in love with the croc clips, even after reading the explanation it just seems messy. not a deal breaker though.

very interested to see how it turns out
He says in the video that there are separate outputs per voice.
excellent thank you i mustve missed that, now i can properly lust

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Post by behndy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:22 pm

electricanada wrote:I think for this one Vlad could actually get people to put down payments on, if he settled on a final price. I'd probably do it.
lol. i'd actually love doing a down payment, would help me make sure i have enough Gear Cabbage set aside when they're ready to pay down a bit (or all if possible) before hand.
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Post by Unborn Gore » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:42 pm

I wonder if he'll bring it to market before the $#!+ hits the fan between the US and Russia.

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Post by horaflora » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:45 pm

behndy wrote:
electricanada wrote:I think for this one Vlad could actually get people to put down payments on, if he settled on a final price. I'd probably do it.
lol. i'd actually love doing a down payment, would help me make sure i have enough Gear Cabbage set aside when they're ready to pay down a bit (or all if possible) before hand.
Happy to accept and hang onto monies for you, until it's released!

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Post by EPTC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:30 pm

Unborn Gore wrote:I wonder if he'll bring it to market before the $#!+ hits the fan between the US and Russia.
Funny, that was my exact worry with the Lyra 8 a couple years back.

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Post by Panason » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:44 am

electricanada wrote:
placebo92 wrote:I keep hoping for a new demo..
I'd like to know how the rhythm patterns are created and stored. Right now I am clueless as to how that might work.
"Stored"? What is this madness!

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Post by electricanada » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:03 pm

Panason wrote:
electricanada wrote:
placebo92 wrote:I keep hoping for a new demo..
I'd like to know how the rhythm patterns are created and stored. Right now I am clueless as to how that might work.
"Stored"? What is this madness!
Apparently there are four loopers, so patterns are "stored" at least temporarily. Whether they persist after the machine is turned off is another question. But a more interesting question is: Is there a quantizer?

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Post by placebo92 » Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:22 am

electricanada wrote:
Panason wrote:
electricanada wrote:
placebo92 wrote:I keep hoping for a new demo..
I'd like to know how the rhythm patterns are created and stored. Right now I am clueless as to how that might work.
"Stored"? What is this madness!
Apparently there are four loopers, so patterns are "stored" at least temporarily. Whether they persist after the machine is turned off is another question. But a more interesting question is: Is there a quantizer?


I doubt it.. That would kind of go against the spirit of these machine's imo.

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Post by electricanada » Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:04 pm

placebo92 wrote:Apparently there are four loopers, so patterns are "stored" at least temporarily. Whether they persist after the machine is turned off is another question. But a more interesting question is: Is there a quantizer?


I doubt it.. That would kind of go against the spirit of these machine's imo.[/quote]

Good point. If the Lyra won't play in tune, why should the Pulsar play in time? (jk) But yeah, now that you've invoked the overall SOMA ethos, I kind of hope there won't be a quantizer too. The weirdness and messiness is the main attraction of these instruments.

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Post by anselmi » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:51 am

electricanada wrote:
placebo92 wrote:Apparently there are four loopers, so patterns are "stored" at least temporarily. Whether they persist after the machine is turned off is another question. But a more interesting question is: Is there a quantizer?


I doubt it.. That would kind of go against the spirit of these machine's imo.
Good point. If the Lyra won't play in tune, why should the Pulsar play in time? (jk) But yeah, now that you've invoked the overall SOMA ethos, I kind of hope there won't be a quantizer too. The weirdness and messiness is the main attraction of these instruments.[/quote]

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Post by Panason » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:17 am

Sync or sink, mothafukka. At least a simple sync to an audio signal would be necessary at this price point.

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Post by Nelson Baboon » Fri Aug 17, 2018 10:53 am

Panason wrote:Sync or sink, mothafukka. At least a simple sync to an audio signal would be necessary at this price point.
"necessary"? As in users who like the instrument, will die a horrible death if it's not there?

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Post by RickKleffel » Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:17 am

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Panason wrote:Sync or sink, mothafukka. At least a simple sync to an audio signal would be necessary at this price point.
"necessary"? As in users who like the instrument, will die a horrible death if it's not there?
Well, it does have MIDI, so I'm guessing it must have some form of sync. That said, asynchronous sequencing is *highly* underrated. In some future thread, I may discuss more. I prefer a garden of sometimes synchronized sequencers. The allure of the whole "Tight" (sync/envelope/whatever) ethos evades me. Not that it is never called for; it's best approached, by myself at least, with moderation. (Or impatience and laziness, your call!)

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Post by electricanada » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:52 pm

It's clear that the Pulsar has an internal clock, plus Euro and midi integration, so playing in time in the conventional manner is covered.

The question remains: How tf do those loopers work?

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Post by Panason » Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:59 pm

Nelson Baboon wrote:
Panason wrote:Sync or sink, mothafukka. At least a simple sync to an audio signal would be necessary at this price point.
"necessary"? As in users who like the instrument, will die a horrible death if it's not there?
THERE ARE THINGS WORSE THAN DEATH :twisted:

If it does not sync, it will be the final straw and the west will go to war with Russia!!! It will be proof that Vlad (SOMA) is Putin's agent, sneakily attacking western Europe and America with his infernal machines!

(In other words, it would be good to be able to sync this so it can be sampled at a known tempo :oops: )

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Post by Nelson Baboon » Fri Aug 17, 2018 1:06 pm

Panason wrote:
Nelson Baboon wrote:
Panason wrote:Sync or sink, mothafukka. At least a simple sync to an audio signal would be necessary at this price point.
"necessary"? As in users who like the instrument, will die a horrible death if it's not there?
THERE ARE THINGS WORSE THAN DEATH :twisted:

If it does not sync, it will be the final straw and the west will go to war with Russia!!! It will be proof that Vlad (SOMA) is Putin's agent, sneakily attacking western Europe and America with his infernal machines!

(In other words, it would be good to be able to sync this so it can be sampled at a known tempo :oops: )
the paradoxical thing about desired common features is that you start adding them, and suddenly you have a very different machine which fits more easily into the synth mainstream, but doesn't have as much of its own identity. But then there are users like you who unleash this 'fake news' despite never having tried the instrument...

if this is such a life or death or worse than death issue for you, have you tried communicating with Soma? In my experience they are very quick to respond.

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Post by Panason » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:16 am

Dude, I am joking...

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