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bschiett
this is a continuation of this thread -

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=193750

latest news here -

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/posts/2233061

The SSP units have shipped now and have arrived with backers, and the forum has become very active the past week! We also posted the first software update. Check it out here -

http://forum.percussa.com/

The SSP offers sampling up to 192khz/32bit, wavetable synthesis, granular processing, multichannel recording, ... it's a modular synthesis system in a module!

*** If you want to buy an SSP head over to http://www.percussa.com/ to place a pre-order and join the next shipment. ***

2disbetter


Thanks for the hard work Bert and Celine!

2d
2disbetter


Moved into the new place and all setup. Please ignore the cruddy computer speaker. It is part of the workstation behind this. Kids sleep right next door, so I'm always using headphones. thumbs up

I'm just continually impressed with how complete the module is and how it keeps getting better. I'm truly excited for the SDK to be completed!!
bschiett
@percussa #ssp update - Microtonal Quantizer w/ SCALA support - Stretch Goal Module Delivered + 4 more software updates! - read more at https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/posts/2240633









J_Behan
I've just been catching up on this beast today. Very impressive indeed, congrats!

I'm very interested to say the least. I've been considering various sampling, DSP fx and multitrack recording options, and I feel this thing could kill about 10 birds with one stone, potentially saving me money and rack space down the road.
I'm particularly looking forward to seeing how people integrate it into the modular ecosystem and workflow. It's got me pondering all kind of questions like hardware vs software, DSP power vs ingenuity etc. What appeals to me about modular is the ingenuity required to make interesting patches. Trying to balance that philosophy with raw DSP power which can handle things like sampling, multitracking, granular, DSP fx etc. is what interests me most.
bschiett
J_Behan wrote:
I've just been catching up on this beast today. Very impressive indeed, congrats!


thanks!

J_Behan wrote:

I'm very interested to say the least. I've been considering various sampling, DSP fx and multitrack recording options, and I feel this thing could kill about 10 birds with one stone, potentially saving me money and rack space down the road.


yes, that is correct. The SSP can do a variety of synthesis, I/O and processing related tasks:

- wavetable synthesis
- granular synthesis
- multichannel sample playback and layering, looping etc.
- multichannel recording (up to 16 ins and 8 outs direct to disk at 192khz/32bit)
- step sequencing
- filtering (svf, comb etc)
- LFOs
- amplitude modulation
- reverb and delay fx processing
- microtonal quantisation
- usb MIDI > CV (including MPE and polyphonic voice building features)
- multichannel USB audio
...

the above list grows as we work on additional modules. We have an active forum at http://forum.percussa.com/

The SSP is really a modular system in a module. You can insert modules in a grid inside the software and patch them together. These patches can then be saved as presets and shared with other people easily. The patching grid lets you easily build multiple voices as well, so if you want to build polyphonic synthesis patches that is also possible. We are working on an SDK which will allow you to develop your own modules.

The I/O is all DC coupled, -5V..+5V, and supports 48khz, 96khz and 192khz sample rates. All at 32 bit resolution. All the I/O is the same, there is no difference between the jacks. They can all deal with audio, CVs, triggers etc. The SSP comes with a high speed (sandisk extreme) 32 GB SD card which you can use to record onto, put samples on, etc.

So it is true that the SSP can replace other digital modules in your rack and save you money :-)
bschiett
Percussa Electronic Musical Instruments #ssp #eurorack update - #vst support, quad VCA, BitCrusher, Module picker and more! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/posts/2251296



2disbetter
This is huge! SlayerBadger! Existing VST2 and 3 plug-ins can be ported to now run on the SSP in tandem with other modules in the network grid.

What this means for developers is they'll need to rework their GUI and control schemes. The SSP passes all encoders and key press data to the plug-in instance. You are free to use the display as you wish. Lots of possibilities there.

This update comes with a small VCA VST plug-in example.

I hope to get a VST out there soon, and I can't wait to see how it all works.
SunSpots
This update was really cool. I'm looking forward for new modules. So,many ways to use the quad vca
bschiett
SunSpots wrote:
This update was really cool. I'm looking forward for new modules. So,many ways to use the quad vca


thanks! working on the next one already :-)
brandonlogic
I'd love to see some decent video demos. I feel its pretty essential for a module like this.
I've seen most of what's out there so far, but they are all very short and only look at a narrow or specific features, and not much explanation, so it's hard to get an overall idea about what this thing is all about and capable of.

would be nice to see some for fully featured demos and put in to some musical contexts, and some demos that really take full advantage of the processing power to see what this things potential is. so far nothing i've seen comes close to demonstrating this.

I'm less interested about seeing more examples of wavetables and oscillator features, but more interested in seeing more granular and realtime effects processing capabilities, stuff that it can do that no other modules can do or sound like yet. Thats far more interesting than the oscillator stuff to me and probably to a lot of other people too.

just a friendly suggestion.
nectarios
brandonlogic wrote:
I'd love to see some decent video demos. I feel its pretty essential for a module like this.
I've seen most of what's out there so far, but they are all very short and only look at a narrow or specific features, and not much explanation, so it's hard to get an overall idea about what this thing is all about and capable of.

would be nice to see some for fully featured demos and put in to some musical contexts, and some demos that really take full advantage of the processing power to see what this things potential is. so far nothing i've seen comes close to demonstrating this.

I'm less interested about seeing more examples of wavetables and oscillator features, but more interested in seeing more granular and realtime effects processing capabilities, stuff that it can do that no other modules can do or sound like yet. Thats far more interesting than the oscillator stuff to me and probably to a lot of other people too.

just a friendly suggestion.


This ^^^

So far its pretty much just spec talking and how this is much better than a ER-301 for example but there is nothing show casing the thing.
Dogma
nectarios wrote:
brandonlogic wrote:
I'd love to see some decent video demos. I feel its pretty essential for a module like this.
I've seen most of what's out there so far, but they are all very short and only look at a narrow or specific features, and not much explanation, so it's hard to get an overall idea about what this thing is all about and capable of.

would be nice to see some for fully featured demos and put in to some musical contexts, and some demos that really take full advantage of the processing power to see what this things potential is. so far nothing i've seen comes close to demonstrating this.

I'm less interested about seeing more examples of wavetables and oscillator features, but more interested in seeing more granular and realtime effects processing capabilities, stuff that it can do that no other modules can do or sound like yet. Thats far more interesting than the oscillator stuff to me and probably to a lot of other people too.

just a friendly suggestion.


This ^^^

So far its pretty much just spec talking and how this is much better than a ER-301 for example but there is nothing show casing the thing.


I said this ages ago too - im sure it can do amazing things - so show me....
I dont wanna read specs....for a module of such spend to have very little video on the actual module itself striding out in all its glory, is a little strange i find
bschiett
brandonlogic wrote:
I'd love to see some decent video demos. I feel its pretty essential for a module like this.
I've seen most of what's out there so far, but they are all very short and only look at a narrow or specific features, and not much explanation, so it's hard to get an overall idea about what this thing is all about and capable of.

would be nice to see some for fully featured demos and put in to some musical contexts, and some demos that really take full advantage of the processing power to see what this things potential is. so far nothing i've seen comes close to demonstrating this.

I'm less interested about seeing more examples of wavetables and oscillator features, but more interested in seeing more granular and realtime effects processing capabilities, stuff that it can do that no other modules can do or sound like yet. Thats far more interesting than the oscillator stuff to me and probably to a lot of other people too.


did you see the granular demos on the kickstarter page/updates section? there are multiple videos spread across the kickstarter updates.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/posts/1977428

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/posts/1978893


I don't know what you mean with not much explanation, do you mean you want to see videos where I explain how the SSP works? there is already a ton of info on the our website, kickstarter page, forum and so on, but I don't know if you've found / read it. Here is me talking about the SSP:

bschiett
nectarios wrote:

So far its pretty much just spec talking and how this is much better than a ER-301 for example but there is nothing show casing the thing.


see my reply to brandonlogic :-) I don't know if you've actually found the demos and videos that are out there, so if you don't, then we should do something about that.
bschiett
Dogma wrote:
for a module of such spend to have very little video on the actual module itself striding out in all its glory, is a little strange i find


We shipped about 50 SSPs to people about a month ago and since then we've posted 6 software updates with new features and modules, and we're pretty busy with our users.

We just don't have time right now to do a lot of video. There is a ton of information out there, we've posted over 45 updates on the kickstarter page, there is an active forum at http://forum.percussa.com/ and there are video and audio demos out there.

Some users have started posting videos, I'm sure there will be more as we move forward.
2disbetter
Folks, I think wanting to see videos and such is completely normal. As someone who has been testing and helping out with the SSP I have a very biased opinion. I know it's awesome already.

However, please understand this is a small 2 person company who JUST finished shipping the modules, has already given us a bunch of software updates and continues to introduce new features.

People are just starting to receive them. Let's just be patience. Videos will come.
nectarios
bschiett wrote:
nectarios wrote:

So far its pretty much just spec talking and how this is much better than a ER-301 for example but there is nothing show casing the thing.


see my reply to brandonlogic :-) I don't know if you've actually found the demos and videos that are out there, so if you don't, then we should do something about that.

I found two demos on the site. Waiting for more I guess as I am sure this can do much more "wow" type things. I understand its early days still.
bschiett
nectarios wrote:
bschiett wrote:
nectarios wrote:

So far its pretty much just spec talking and how this is much better than a ER-301 for example but there is nothing show casing the thing.


see my reply to brandonlogic :-) I don't know if you've actually found the demos and videos that are out there, so if you don't, then we should do something about that.

I found two demos on the site. Waiting for more I guess as I am sure this can do much more "wow" type things. I understand its early days still.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/updates

on these two pages you can find a lot more demos, both audio and video, than just two.

Keep an eye on the KS updates and if you haven't already join us on facebook as well.
https://www.facebook.com/percussacom/videos/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/percussa/

youtube channel where you can find some videos as well -
https://www.youtube.com/user/percussa

I also post on instagram -
https://www.instagram.com/percussacom/
nectarios
bschiett wrote:
nectarios wrote:
bschiett wrote:
nectarios wrote:

So far its pretty much just spec talking and how this is much better than a ER-301 for example but there is nothing show casing the thing.


see my reply to brandonlogic :-) I don't know if you've actually found the demos and videos that are out there, so if you don't, then we should do something about that.

I found two demos on the site. Waiting for more I guess as I am sure this can do much more "wow" type things. I understand its early days still.


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/percussa/percussa-super-signal-pr ocessor-eurorack-module/updates

on these two pages you can find a lot more demos, both audio and video, than just two.

Keep an eye on the KS updates and if you haven't already join us on facebook as well.


In the granular video that actually generates grains, Xenakis style granular and sounds like Clouds (with a lot more grains), is there also a Curtis micro sound implementation that sounds like the Morphagene/ER-301?
DruidTek
I've been following this from day one, and while I think it's a very interesting concept, I do have to say that all of the videos I've seen so far are very underwhelming.

I'd really love to see someone creating an actual piece of music on one of these, with drums, bass and melodies, etc. That would go a long way towards proving its worth, imo.

I know its early days, but at the moment it seems to be much more of a developer platform than a musical instrument.
bschiett
DruidTek wrote:
I've been following this from day one, and while I think it's a very interesting concept, I do have to say that all of the videos I've seen so far are very underwhelming.
I know its early days, but at the moment it seems to be much more of a developer platform than a musical instrument.


It's not a concept, it's out there and it is real and in people's racks, being used cool

It sounds to me that you didn't watch any of the videos or listened to any of the demos, and perhaps didn't read the kickstarter updates?

DruidTek wrote:

I'd really love to see someone creating an actual piece of music on one of these, with drums, bass and melodies, etc. That would go a long way towards proving its worth, imo.


I'm the developer working on this, I'm not a musician, so I cannot create the demo you are looking for, but maybe some of the users will at some point.
bschiett
info for developers who want to build or recompile VST plugins for the SSP -
https://forum.percussa.com/t/how-to-build-modules-vst-plugins-for-the- ssp/348/2
bschiett
nectarios wrote:

In the granular video that actually generates grains, Xenakis style granular and sounds like Clouds (with a lot more grains), is there also a Curtis micro sound implementation that sounds like the Morphagene/ER-301?


The granular module in the SSP's software is capable of generating a wide variety of different sound depending on what you've set the settings to. Here are the settings available:

- grain rate (coarse/fine)
- grain selection start/end (defines the window from which grains are picked)
- grain duration
- grain tune
- grain level
- number of grains
- grain frequency
- grain randomization

The grains are randomized in length and panning and have triangular envelopes. The grain pick position and pitch is also randomized.

If you have specific questions let me know.
6667
what's the advantage of this over just rack mounting my laptop next to my euro modules
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