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Tascam Model 24 Mutlitrack Recorder and Mixer
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miles_macquarrie


https://tascam.com/us/product/model_24/top

Well Tascam is releasing a standalone 24 track recorder that is also a 22 chanel mixer and interface with 24 channels to and from the computer.

Tempted to get rid of my Soundcraft22mtk for this. Seems like a great way to record and mix with an all hardware studio and then do further editing in the computer if need be.

Thoughts?
Bath House
It looks like it has a ton of potential and would be great for people using hardware. I think it’s screamingly insane that they left out inserts after the first two channels when they even have the empty blank space for them.
angora
That is pretty hot to be honest.

I've got a Tascam SD-20M that I use as a 2-track (I just ignore the two mic inputs) and like the sound quality. I would buy a 4 mono + 4 stereo version of that in a heartbeat. I've always had good experiences with Tascam products.

I like to hit record and just play. So, I like your thinking of record and mix, edit on the computer if you need/want to. There are times when I'd like to go back and do editing, even if it is just adjusting a level. Having all the stems would definately be nice. I wouldn't be suprised if they sell a lot of these. It is an untapped market.
talfred
It's actually a very nice product at a great price.
But if you look at sweetwaters page for this product there's a warning there:

WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.


What does this actually mean?
I'm not really tempted to buy products with cancer warnings on them..
rens
talfred wrote:
It's actually a very nice product at a great price.
But if you look at sweetwaters page for this product there's a warning there:

WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.


What does this actually mean?
I'm not really tempted to buy products with cancer warnings on them..


It means california.
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-state-of-California-think-everythin g-causes-cancer

Dont worry, your modular patch cables cause cancer too. Also, the internet.
thevegasnerve
I saw that to about the cancer warning. Would like to know the specific products and what situations they emit harmful emissions, etc..
thevegasnerve
rens wrote:
talfred wrote:
It's actually a very nice product at a great price.
But if you look at sweetwaters page for this product there's a warning there:

WARNING: Cancer and Reproductive Harm. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.


What does this actually mean?
I'm not really tempted to buy products with cancer warnings on them..


It means california.
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-the-state-of-California-think-everythin g-causes-cancer

Dont worry, your modular patch cables cause cancer too. Also, the internet.


That’s a pretty lazy answer, especially given the cancer issues we deal with as a society. You would be naive to place the control into the hands of corporations. Would be better to discuss what is triggering the warning and put into proper context.
Panason
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dual RCA Bluetooth™ connectivity. This allows users to easily integrate mobiles devices into the mix for rehearsal playback, walk-in music and more.


err.. OK. I guess there's a current marketing MO that you have to "integrate mobile devices" to be cool... but Bluetooth is garbage. Maybe that is the source of cancer. twisted
rens
Quote:


That’s a pretty lazy answer, especially given the cancer issues we deal with as a society. You would be naive to place the control into the hands of corporations. Would be better to discuss what is triggering the warning and put into proper context.


Thanks for the ad-hominem attack. Its pretty well understood that the california proposition has in fact caused great harm to the cause of product safety by applying a broad brush to a vast array of products which dont pose any particular risk. I even provided a link to a discussion of that, so you can educate yourself about P65.

Have a nice day.
thevegasnerve
rens wrote:
Quote:


That’s a pretty lazy answer, especially given the cancer issues we deal with as a society. You would be naive to place the control into the hands of corporations. Would be better to discuss what is triggering the warning and put into proper context.


Thanks for the ad-hominem attack. Its pretty well understood that the california proposition has in fact caused great harm to the cause of product safety by applying a broad brush to a vast array of products which dont pose any particular risk. I even provided a link to a discussion of that, so you can educate yourself about P65.

Have a nice day.


I apologize for the attack. Buy that article takes the position as I read we should disregard known carcinogenic fx of certain compounds (admittedly under certain specific conditions) for the greater good of capitalism. You indirectly attacked a group of individuals by suggesting their proposition was worthless and should be dismissed without getting to the real point, which is to see why the warning got triggered. It’s likely not an issue if used properly. I have seen how we handle radon, asbestos, and lead for example. We bury risk in the name of “job creation”, when rolling up our sleeves and understanding the risk would help with pragmatic risk reduction. This situation is worsening and personal to me.

Hope you have a nice day too for what it’s worth. I
Koekepan
I looked very (very!) hard at this product, before going for the DP32SD instead.

What made my choice for me was the observation that while the Model 24 will do recording, and audio interface work, and some overdubbing, that's about as far as it goes for editing. You need to have something else act as your mix/master tool if you want anything more than a live mix.

By contrast, the Portastudio will let you mix, cut and paste, edit and undo, and even normalise your master track for you. Pop out the SD card and slap it in your phone, your computer, your music player and rock out, upload or whatever it is you do.

This really defines the bright line between people who want the live mix and are happy to reshape something on the computer, and people who want a recording studio in one box.

This isn't a criticism of the Model 24. As I said, I looked hard at it and was very tempted. It was simply no competition in the niche that the Portastudio serves.
CF3
Cool mixer, but it’s missing quite a few basic things you’d need in a hardware environment. Obviously, they do this for cost cutting, so fair enough. But this is why these all-in-one mixer/interface set ups always disappoint me. I love the convenience but always end up yearning for more physical I/O. (Like inserts on the Sub, for instance and the aforementioned inserts on the channels).

I wholeheartedly applaud the effort though. applause
thevegasnerve
I was looking at this one too, but was concerned it may have the same mixing limitations..

tobb
wow,great stuff from Tascam (again)!
rens
thevegasnerve wrote:


Hope you have a nice day too for what it’s worth. I


Thanks, i appreciate it! I agree with your concern; the california law makes it impossible to get any useful information, so it just feedfs the ‘climate of fear’. I would guess from having read the Tascam that its the battery.

To get back on topic though...the 48khz limitation and the 2 inserts kill it for me. I use inserts to get direct outs on desks not so equipped so I’d need them on all tracks to replace my mixer.
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