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Rs pro hot air and soldering station? Nay or yay?
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djthopa
Hi!

Hope you are all doing well.

Im looking into getting a hot air station for my future smd dying, and i have found this Rs station that has both a hot air gun and a soldering iron.

I already have my good old weller wtcp 51 and im considering either getting an extra soldering iron for other detail smd soldering and or / a hot air gun for smd work, since i have read good results from people working with heat guns and smd.

So i came across this one:

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-stations/1244134/?relevancy-d ata=636F3D3126696E3D4931384E53656172636847656E65726963266C753D656E266D 6D3D6D61746368616C6C7061727469616C26706D3D5E2E2A2426706F3D31333326736E 3D592673723D2673743D43415443485F414C4C5F44454641554C542673633D59267763 3D4E4F4E45267573743D52732070726F20686F74206169722073746174696F6E267374 613D52732070726F20686F74206169722073746174696F6E26&searchHistory=%7B%2 2enabled%22%3Atrue%7D

And im wondering if i should stay away from it, or on the other hand i should go for it.

On one side i could get two jobs done for less money (buying another weller solder and a hot air gun) or as the saying goes, cheap becomes expensive in the long term...

Any one has experience with this machine? any other suggestions / counsel?

Much appreciated!
BugBrand
I would suggest just getting a separate hot-air gun if you're already happy with your current iron (and can get suitable spares such as a variety of tips). This RS one looks fairly budget similar to ones like Aoyue etc - probably OK but sounds like your iron is already better than what you'd likely get here.

Personally I only use hot-air guns fairly infrequently (90% of the time for heat-shrink actually! - otherwise just for smd IC removal - all soldering I do by hand) so I'm OK having a budget one and focusing on quality of soldering iron.
djthopa
BugBrand wrote:
I would suggest just getting a separate hot-air gun if you're already happy with your current iron (and can get suitable spares such as a variety of tips). This RS one looks fairly budget similar to ones like Aoyue etc - probably OK but sounds like your iron is already better than what you'd likely get here.

Personally I only use hot-air guns fairly infrequently (90% of the time for heat-shrink actually! - otherwise just for smd IC removal - all soldering I do by hand) so I'm OK having a budget one and focusing on quality of soldering iron.


Hi thanks a lot for your reply.

Yes im really happy with my weller. I had it for six years and it has always performed great!

Maybe as you say, get another weller iron (not the power dock) like this one with fine tip for smd soldering:

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-irons/0516268/

And get a indepndent hot air station, like this?

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-stations/1244133/

I dont want to spend unnecessary money on something im not too sure about, so i guess my best choice would be to get a second iron for finer work and a standard heat gun and work from there.

Thanks for your help!
cygmu
djthopa wrote:

Maybe as you say, get another weller iron (not the power dock) like this one with fine tip for smd soldering:

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/soldering-irons/0516268/


Would you really need the entire thing? Can't you just buy the tip alone and change it on your existing iron?
fuzzbass
I bought this very inexpensive unit and have been happy with it:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Air-Gun-858D-Digital-Rework-Station-SMD-S older-Blower-W-3-Nozzles-700W-110V/132288465384?epid=2063280131&hash=i tem1ecd01c9e8:g:~IwAAOSwI0RZiYBn:rk:11:pf:0
m.o
Why would you actually need a second soldering iron - surely there are finer tips available for you existing iron?
Or is it a matter of convenience - faster to swap soldering pen than to swap tips?

I have a weller WS 81 kit, which to me works fine for smd.
I also got a cheap-o ("Blackjack") hot air + desoldering + iron with fume sucker station (think it was sub 200€), never really use it for assembly, only for desoldering stuff (desoldering smd ICs is what the hot air is good for).
BugBrand
EEVBlog review vid might be useful (seems there's various 858 type):


And, yes, why get a new iron when you can just change the tip?!
djthopa
Hola!

Many thanks for your feedback!

Its great to get a different perspective on things from some one else more experienced, after glueing my eyes to mouser, farnell etc....!

The things is i already have the smd tips! I could spend that extra money on a proper multimeter ( i read really good things about the fluke 115 but i already have the mutable tester and an extech 410 so dont know if i really need it)

As some have mentioned, yes the idea was more of a convenience approach so i could swap irons for different tasks.

I spent 2 hours yesterday desoldering 32 leds that had no internal 5v resitor inside, (my fault as i made the mistake when buying them) so was thinking of having one iron for general soldering / desoldering

I saw this too:

https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/desoldering-gun-accessories/0516303/?re levancy-data=636F3D3126696E3D4931384E53656172636847656E65726963266C753 D656E266D6D3D6D61746368616C6C7061727469616C26706D3D5E5B5C707B4C7D5C707 B4E647D2D2C2F255C2E5D2B2426706F3D31333326736E3D592673723D2673743D4B455 9574F52445F53494E474C455F414C5048415F4E554D455249432673633D592677633D4 E4F4E45267573743D54303035313330343039394E267374613D5430303531333034303 9394E26&searchHistory=%7B%22enabled%22%3Atrue%7D )

I thought that could be a good way of tackling desoldering components, which i hate btw (guess like every one around here?)

I have been watching the EEVblog, wow over a 1000 videos! Did not have the time to watch most of them but i did have that one bookmarked!

Ok looking it now!

Gracias!!! smile

To be honest most of the work i do at the moment is trough hole, but i can see more and more projects in the near future that are going to involve smd soldering, drag, hot air, etc.
whoop_john
BugBrand wrote:
EEVBlog review vid might be useful (seems there's various 858 type):


And, yes, why get a new iron when you can just change the tip?!


I have one of these - they are branded by various people. It works very well for me. The RS price seems a bit crazy.
gbiz
BugBrand wrote:

Personally I only use hot-air guns fairly infrequently (90% of the time for heat-shrink actually!


haha. Same here.

They're also great for removing shipping labels & packing tape. Handy if you want to reuse a box from Mouser, RS, Thonk etc.
synthetek
I only use hot air for heat shrink and occasionally removing smd components. I bought it to do hot air/paste for smd but found that I prefer using my soldering iron and regular solder. I have also found that I prefer the same chisel tip for through hole and smd, you don't need a fine tip and it might even make things harder. The inexpensive hot air stations are handy to have around but I don't use it as much a I thought I would.
djthopa
Thanks for the feedback!

Im going to follow your counsel and get a cheap air station like the one on the Eevblog and use that money for a nice panavise pcb holder that i will use mostly every day!

Will see how my smd goes with a fine tip!

Many thanks
sduck
I've got one of those 858 ones and it works great for the occasional things i do with it.
bonzai
Same here, recently got one of those clones of the clone brandnew for 25€ on eBay, seems to do the job quite well (have only used it once yet).
Internal construction was also not bad, no obvious death traps at least.
l3v3l6
I too just purchased a no name 858D on eBay, $36.00. Works great for what I need it for.
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