Kudos to OS! Silent Way + ES-1 = teh win

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Kudos to OS! Silent Way + ES-1 = teh win

Post by Oldstench » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:36 am

The subject just about says it all. Finally got some serious time to sit down and dork about with Silent Way interfacing with the ES-1.
Setup within Cubase 5.5 was a breeze following OS's video demo. My Z3000 Mk2 and my Anti-Osc track like nobody's business. The DC plugin with Reaktor CC raping is ridiculously nuts.
It's just shitloads of fun.

Get it - you won't regret it.

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Post by os » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:39 am

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Post by JP » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:56 am

:yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

I'd ditto that statement.

I'm actually starting to realize how many modules I don't really need any more. Basic vanilla LFO's and envelope generators all seem rather redundant now I can do it with the ES1

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Post by Oldstench » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:10 am

Exactly. And depending on how fancy you can want to get with your programming (and how simplified you want your modular system to be) you can get rid of analog sequencers, clock dividers/multipliers, logic and probably some other shit that I can't think of.

That being said, I still love those modules and think that SW + ES-1 compliments rather than obviates said modules.
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Post by qu.one » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:12 am

JP wrote::yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

I'd ditto that statement.

I'm actually starting to realize how many modules I don't really need any more. Basic vanilla LFO's and envelope generators all seem rather redundant now I can do it with the ES1
i'm getting my ES-1 soon and am looking forward to it.. can't wait for at the studio goodness... i just wouldn't toss some modules that you might need when NOT in the studio though.
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Post by jenamu6 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:48 am

Do you still need a second sound card to use this?

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Post by JP » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:53 am

qu.one wrote: i'm getting my ES-1 soon and am looking forward to it.. can't wait for at the studio goodness... i just wouldn't toss some modules that you might need when NOT in the studio though.
True, except I don't see myself using my rig anywhere that my laptop won't be, they go hand in hand with my music. I'd probably keep 1 lfo and adsr around just for when I want to jam on the system.

I'm now toying with not having my es1 in the rack at all, but making a new faceplate and putting it in an enclosure with my audio interface, so I'd have a box with 8 outs and wall wart power in and a usb in. Remove a huge amount of the clutter from having an 8 cable snake. Not sure yet though.

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Post by os » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:55 am

jenamu6 wrote:Do you still need a second sound card to use this?
Only if you don't have any spare outputs on your first sound card.

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Post by jenamu6 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:16 am

Just hypothetical.......how hard would it be to make something like this standalone, like a self contained USB device

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Post by os » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:20 am

That basically means making a USB audio interface. Not hard in the absolute sense, but trickier than I currently have resources for.

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Post by jenamu6 » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:26 am

It wouldn't have to be a sound interface now would it?

A voltage meter/distributor and a frequency counter would suffice.......or am I thinking to simple?

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Post by Oldstench » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:46 am

JP wrote: I'm now toying with not having my es1 in the rack at all, but making a new faceplate and putting it in an enclosure with my audio interface, so I'd have a box with 8 outs and wall wart power in and a usb in. Remove a huge amount of the clutter from having an 8 cable snake. Not sure yet though.
If you do this, please post a how-to. I have no idea how to make a wallwart to 12v module bridge.
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Post by JP » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:56 am

Oldstench wrote:If you do this, please post a how-to. I have no idea how to make a wallwart to 12v module bridge.
I'd spend $60 a use one of these http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a100mnt/

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I probably need to find a couple of other modules for this.

Maybe a midi to cv, midi to trigger & es-1 in a beauty case would hit the spot.

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Post by JP » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:08 pm

OH Man, it's meant to be…

32hp in a beauty case:

elby midi-trigger: 14hp
doepfer midi-cv: 6hp
es1: 12 hp

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Post by os » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:33 am

Or

ES-1: 8 HP
ES-2: 4 HP

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Post by os » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:34 am

Oldstench wrote:If you do this, please post a how-to. I have no idea how to make a wallwart to 12v module bridge.
See also
http://www.flightofharmony.com/product- ... wer-module

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Post by os » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:35 am

jenamu6 wrote:It wouldn't have to be a sound interface now would it?
The whole point of the Silent Way approach is to have the DAW treat CVs like audio. So to have the DAW output the CVs, it has to see the device as an audio interface.

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Post by Oldstench » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:24 am

Sometimes I feel like such an idiot. I was about to suggest an "improvement" to the step LFO where the right channel could optionally output triggers for each step. I was stymied last night because if all the steps are high, my EGs don't see each step as a discreet trigger.

As I was writing my suggestion down, I started thinking about how you can set individual sequence lengths for each channel and had the eureka moment where it dawned on me - right channel to 32 steps (or whatever) and set every other step to a high value - voila triggers!

Then I looked at the picture in the manual of the step LFO... :doh:
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Post by os » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:30 am

LOL.

It is actually on my to-do list to add a trigger interpolation type, so you wouldn't have to use a double length sequence, but as you've found, it does work quite well as it is.

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Post by Oldstench » Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:14 pm

Gotta say, Asym on the step LFO is the shit. Here's a stupid, simple little ditty I patched together last night demonstrating it.

http://soundcloud.com/oldstench/piston-sings

Have I mentioned I really dig it? :tu:
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Post by Oldstench » Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:07 pm

Hell - this thing makes the Piston Honda track over 6 octaves easily for me...
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Post by skweeegor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:39 pm

Absolutely love this shiz. Opens up a small system SO much.

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Post by josefranco » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:39 pm

Silent Way and ES-1 are amazing! So much goodness here. Silent Way LFO and Pittsburgh Modular's VILFO are going to be best friends. Thanks Os!
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Post by hednoize » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:54 pm

Oldstench wrote:Gotta say, Asym on the step LFO is the shit. Here's a stupid, simple little ditty I patched together last night demonstrating it.

http://soundcloud.com/oldstench/piston-sings
Man, that is really cool riff. Love it!
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Post by os » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:20 am

I love this thread. I might make it sticky. :razz:

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